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Dec 8, 2023 at 11:36 AM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
You know what I loved most about the Brock and Saban story? Is that when Saban said Brock's accuracy was average - Brock knew hr was full of s**t because Brock knows he's super accurate. Lol gotta love that confidence.

link?

"During an interview with The Athletic via Purdy's former high school coach, Preston Jones, Saban's reported assessment of the quarterback's skill set during the recruiting process was a bit surprising.

"Brock told me, 'He didn't really know me, coach,'" Preston Jones said. "(Saban said), 'You're below average in height. Your arm strength is whatever. Your accuracy is average.' And as soon as he mentioned the accuracy, Brock knew right away: 'This guy doesn't know me.' Because, if anything, that's his strength. He goes, 'Coach, he didn't know who I was.'"

Right from my spank bank:
https://247sports.com/article/nick-saban-thought-brock-purdy-was-average-during-recruitment-49ers-qbs-high-school-coach-says-203504807/amp/
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:37 AM
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Kyle on the radio, said he intially thought it was an overthrow until he saw it was a perfect throw lol

Get coped Kyle. Brock will stress you, and then soothe you giddy with a throw.

Gosh, he sure makes it look easy, damn. Looks totally comfortable, drops one in the basket perfectly to CMC.
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:37 AM
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
on quick 1 step or 3 step drops they do, and often use a fire out technique to blunt the pass rush
They know the play, they don't know whats going on behind them

Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.
Passes being knocked down are also attributable to the OLine.

OLinemen need to know the timing of those passes so they can punch the DLinemen in the stomach just before those passes are thrown.
OL won't know the timing. They can only react to what the DL is doing

you don't get that many batted balls from shorter QBs cause they need to get the ball over the OL also.

Of course OLinemen know the timing. They know the snap count and where the QB usually will be when he hitches and throws. They aren't dumb.
who said they were dumb. no need to spin this. knowing the timing of the snap and play is different then knowing the timing of the actual throw.

you can't have OL punching guys in the stomach after two secs just to punch them cause it's a quick out.
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:38 AM
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
yup, trey is 6'4" and i remember him getting balls tipped quite a bit

That's mainly release related. Like arm strength, prototypical height (6'4 and above) is useful but not necessary.

yeah, Trey had a little bit of a long funky release (obviously he improved it per last camp). I think that has a big part too. Like I said, there are numerous variables at play in regards to balls batted.
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.

You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.

This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol


Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.

Not really when you watch his throwing motion. He often throws 3/4 or sidearm in addition to tipping his throws.
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:46 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.

You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.

This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol


Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.

Not really when you watch his throwing motion. He often throws 3/4 or sidearm in addition to tipping his throws.

I don't like the way the tweet says "have nothing to do with qb heigh".
1. Very poor grammar. Lol
2. Height is a factor. It's not irrelevant in the Convo. It's just not the only important variable.
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
yup, trey is 6'4" and i remember him getting balls tipped quite a bit

That's mainly release related. Like arm strength, prototypical height (6'4 and above) is useful but not necessary.

I wonder if long arms mean long releases
Dec 8, 2023 at 11:51 AM
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
yup, trey is 6'4" and i remember him getting balls tipped quite a bit

That's mainly release related. Like arm strength, prototypical height (6'4 and above) is useful but not necessary.

I wonder if long arms mean long releases

No. Lol a lot of guys have long arms. Just need to compact it and tighten it up. I thought Trey did an awesome job if that this last off season, drastically improved his release and he has pretty long arms.
Dec 8, 2023 at 12:04 PM
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Pointing out a QBs height, weight or 40 time are facts. Saying he's great or elite are subjective statements. It's obviously not a necessity that successful QBs need to be over 6'3" and 230 lbs or run a 4.5 40. Size can be an asset but they aren't a guarantee of success. Same for speed. The ideal QB would have the size, speed and all the other traits that make a QB great. Very few in history have had the entire package.

If Brock was taller, he may have been considered a better prospect and not been there at pick #262. I love that he is agile and elusive with that short area quickness. To me, that is more helpful than being a couple inches taller. He has no issues seeing over the interior OL to throw to the middle of the field, and doesn't get passes batted down.

He does get passes batted down. That may be because the defenses are penetrating but he does get passes knocked down. I think we saw one on the first or second drive last week. Getting passes blocked at the line isn't always because of height. Arm length and delivery are part of it as well. I agree that if Brock's combine numbers were better he would have been drafted much earlier. He probably wouldn't have been playing at Iowa State either.

You're right, it does happen occasionally. I wouldn't consider it a problem because I think it happens from DL knowing he throws on rhythm, so once he completes his dropback, that ball is usually coming out. So DL put their arms up.

This is from 2021 season I believe, but height doesn't necessarily correlate to batted down passes. There are a lot of variables, as well as the o line doing their job to keep guys arms down. Especially when you have 6'8 guys like armstesd - idc how tall anyone is throwing the ball in that case. Lol


Thanks for busting that myth. 6-6 Herbert being one of the leaders at getting passes batted down is surprising. I suppose it's more about the trajectory of the ball as it leaves the QB's hands. Herbert seems to sidearm a lot which lowers the initial trajectory.

I assume you get more passes batted if you are a QB that likes to pass from the pocket. If a QB likes to roll out to pass, they will have less passes batted down.

Pretty sure Herbert does it on purpose so he can catch his own pass and makes a nice gain. Elite

[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Dec 8, 2023 at 12:06 PM ]
Dec 8, 2023 at 12:28 PM
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Pretty sure Herbert does it on purpose so he can catch his own pass and makes a nice gain. Elite


Brett favres first nfl pass was to himself, also. Lol it was batted and he grab it and ran. Lmao fun fact
Dec 8, 2023 at 12:32 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Pretty sure Herbert does it on purpose so he can catch his own pass and makes a nice gain. Elite


Brett favres first nfl pass was to himself, also. Lol it was batted and he grab it and ran. Lmao fun fact

Steve had one of those
Dec 8, 2023 at 1:01 PM
niners can't give brock a new contract after his '24 season or '25?
Dec 8, 2023 at 1:02 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Pretty sure Herbert does it on purpose so he can catch his own pass and makes a nice gain. Elite


Brett favres first nfl pass was to himself, also. Lol it was batted and he grab it and ran. Lmao fun fact

Steve had one of those

Anyone did this and score? That would get you two TDs (1 pass TD and 1 reception TD) on the stat in one play. It might break the NFL scoring stats.
Dec 8, 2023 at 1:03 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
niners can't give brock a new contract after his '24 season or '25?

He will get a contract after the end of next season.
Dec 8, 2023 at 1:07 PM
elite, easily best qb in the nfl this year. unbelievable how good he is.
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