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Dec 9, 2023 at 8:07 AM
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Brock Purdy's female lookalike going viral leaves NFL fans stunned

I'll marry her rn (unless she's underage. Then please don't send the fbi to my door). Lmao

Pervert

This made me somewhat uncomfortable.


We're still waiting on that "delete post" upgrade on here I guess

LOL what made me uncomfortable was seeing my favorite team's QB with a female body. That's just weird man. Call me antitrans or whatever. Get off my lawn.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Dec 9, 2023 at 12:42 PM ]
Dec 9, 2023 at 8:50 AM
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 3rd-down-decoy:
Is there a Joe Montana thread? Seems like that could be poppin.

It's the Brock Montana thread 😎

Where do I go to talk about Johnny Utah tho?


Lol I loved that movie as a kid.
Dec 9, 2023 at 9:37 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
1) Does he throw touchdowns? = YES.

2) Does he win games? = YES.

After QB's like KRAP, Alexcuses, Nick Mullens, JT O'Sullivan, Jimmy G all you guys can think about his height? For 20+ years in a row you would have killed for a QB this great.

Get over his height! You can play at that height and be great. It's been done before and it's being done right now.


i don't think anyone here cares about his height

Yeah that's what I'm saying. So guys get over it. He's taller and heavier than Drew Brees. He's about the same exact size as Steve Young on both height and weight. He's 1 inch shorter than Joe Montana with a more stocky build. He's BIG ENOUGH. You can get it done how he is doing it. Just be thankful. We have a franchise QB for the first time in 20+ years. It's absolutely great!

Absolutly agree!
Dec 9, 2023 at 9:45 AM
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I tell ya that's the disconnect. Ppl say he's MVP yet he's not worth top 10 QB dollars, okay, which is it?
this is why I think $400m over 5, money and contracts keep going up,

Don't see anybody who thinks he should win MVP also arguing he's not worth a contract he's due to sign in a year and a half at the earliest.

Because someone getting a 400 million dollars contract needs to show quality and consistency over more than 1.5 years, in my opinion.

Well he can't even negotiate a new contract until he's completed 3 years in the league...

Yep....so let's see what he does over the next 1.5 years. He is playing at an MVP level right now. The only real argument is the fact that he is playing in a Shany system with lots of weapons.

I personally think that is BS since historically successful QBs have a high end coach and weapons.

Personally, I think he can turn guys like Ronnie Bell and Jauan Jennings level into all pros with his passing skills. I don't really remember Aiyuk destroying defenses the way he is now, (with Brock) under Jimmy. Dwight Clark would be an undrafted player under today's rules.

Once Brock is paid, I don't think that makes it more difficult to keep the Superbowl window open, so long as ShanaLynch keeps drafting well. Jimmy was paid in 2017, and made the Superbowl in 2019, for example.
Dec 9, 2023 at 9:47 AM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.
exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level
Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.
Dec 9, 2023 at 10:17 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.
exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level
Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.
Dec 9, 2023 at 10:20 AM
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BMoore56:
Brees real height was like 5'11 .. he was never 6'1 🤣🤣

Yeah I guess they lie at the combine


They rounded up for whatever reason. He is not 6-1.

His exact height measured was 72.3 inches, or 6' 1/2" though another source says 6 1/4"

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Drew&l=Brees&i=5788

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2001-combine.htm

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=196&DraftYear=2001

IDK why this matters that much to everyone but whatever. I remember repeatedly this being discussed on TV.

People are confusing his height with Russell Wilson. RW is sub 6' while Drew was 6' 1/2"

Either way Brock is above both so why does this matter again?

I hate to be that guy, but 72.3 inches is not 6'0-1/2", the other source is correct 6'0-1/4"

Both are below the avg height of a NFL QB…also it doesn't matter, clearly.

I feel like people are trying to say height doesn't matter AND make him seem taller than he actually is lol.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 9, 2023 at 10:26 AM ]
Dec 9, 2023 at 10:25 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock isn't above Brees. Both are below the avg height of a NFL QB…also it doesn't matter, clearly.

not sure why people need to makeup height numbers to make him seems taller than he is lol? Who cares? Just post the legit numbers, which is what mockdraftable does.

Brees is 6'0" and was listed as such his entire career with 209 lbs. Purdy is 6'1" 215 lbs. He's bigger on height and weight both. There is even a picture of them standing right next to each other I believe in media events. It may be last years Super Bowl media events. Not sure on that though. Right next to each other Brock Purdy is taller and slightly looking down to Brees. They are like 2 feet apart and you can see who is taller. It's Purdy.
Dec 9, 2023 at 10:31 AM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.
exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level
Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.
you don't get any satire from riddick when said "Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh?
🙄"

it didn't say anything about BChippers because that was my point. Riddick is saying Joe was MVP due to those great players, which i showed they weren't drafted as high level talent and that they were average players who became great.

Sometimes it can be held against a QB like our Prior QB, but Joe/Brock are actually leading the way and not following
Dec 9, 2023 at 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BMoore56:
Brees real height was like 5'11 .. he was never 6'1 🤣🤣

Yeah I guess they lie at the combine


They rounded up for whatever reason. He is not 6-1.

His exact height measured was 72.3 inches, or 6' 1/2" though another source says 6 1/4"

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Drew&l=Brees&i=5788

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/2001-combine.htm

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=196&DraftYear=2001

IDK why this matters that much to everyone but whatever. I remember repeatedly this being discussed on TV.

People are confusing his height with Russell Wilson. RW is sub 6' while Drew was 6' 1/2"

Either way Brock is above both so why does this matter again?

I hate to be that guy, but 72.3 inches is not 6'0-1/2", the other source is correct 6'0-1/4"

Both are below the avg height of a NFL QB…also it doesn't matter, clearly.

I feel like people are trying to say height doesn't matter AND make him seem taller than he actually is lol.

QBs supposedly need to see to throw, so hight obviously is a bit important. Specially if your OLine averages 6'5" or more. But - usually the inside OLine guys are shorter than the OTs anyway, so as you said its not a big deal in most situations.

Then you have guys like our 49er legendendary QBs who trust the guys they throw to, and throw it to them despite seeing they are covered (Jerry for example) and so vision in some cases isn't that important.
Dec 9, 2023 at 11:38 AM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Joe said he. would have loved to play on this team.

He had incredible talent every year he played. Don't kid yourself. Pre salary cap era Eddie D fielded the best team in football every year. Joe had incredible advantages.

Actually Joe Montana in 1981 did not have even close to the talent he had later on in his career. Same thing goes for 1984. No Jerry rice no John Taylor no Brent Jones no Tom Rathman. Those first two Super Bowls, especially where he smoked Dan Marino was astounding. We did have an excellent defense, but the Dolphins had an all world offense (that spanked the 85 bears).

As far as Brock Purdy playing with all these weapons, yeah he is benefiting from it however, I don't know if one of those weapons will be a Hall of Famer. I can't say the same for Mahomes, who played with Hill and still Kelce or Brady who had Gronkowski who was the biggest mismatch in the league for years.
Dec 9, 2023 at 11:44 AM
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
Joe said he. would have loved to play on this team.

He had incredible talent every year he played. Don't kid yourself. Pre salary cap era Eddie D fielded the best team in football every year. Joe had incredible advantages.

Actually Joe Montana in 1981 did not have even close to the talent he had later on in his career. Same thing goes for 1984. No Jerry rice no John Taylor no Brent Jones no Tom Rathman. Those first two Super Bowls, especially where he smoked Dan Marino was astounding. We did have an excellent defense, but the Dolphins had an all world offense (that spanked the 85 bears).

As far as Brock Purdy playing with all these weapons, yeah he is benefiting from it however, I don't know if one of those weapons will be a Hall of Famer. I can't say the same for Mahomes, who played with Hill and still Kelce or Brady who had Gronkowski who was the biggest mismatch in the league for years.

Every QB benefits from talent around him. Take Tyron Smith and Ceedee Lamb out of the lineup for 3 games. Now play a great defense like Cleveland in the wind and rain on the road. Is Dak Prescott worse? Duh. Why is this argument only used against Brock Purdy?

Montana and Mahomes had great talent around them throughout their careers. Brady had Gronk, Moss, a great defense backing him up and coach Belichick. He wasn't doing it alone. No way. None of them do. It's always just used against Purdy.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Dec 9, 2023 at 11:47 AM ]
Dec 9, 2023 at 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Lmao I was reading about Brock's endorsements and one person said "he's been working with BWW" and someone said "as a serve or behind the bar"

and this guy responded with this. Lmaoo
"flipping burgers"

His rookie contract ends in 2025 so he'll be flipping burgers till at least 2025. after that he can retire.
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From flipping burgers.
Dec 9, 2023 at 12:29 PM
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17 more touchdowns to 40, come on Brock Star you can do it!!! I'm praying Purdy lights up Seattle for 3 TD's!!!!
Dec 9, 2023 at 12:46 PM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Every QB benefits from talent around him. Take Tyron Smith and Ceedee Lamb out of the lineup for 3 games. Now play a great defense like Cleveland in the wind and rain on the road. Is Dak Prescott worse? Duh. Why is this argument only used against Brock Purdy?

Montana and Mahomes had great talent around them throughout their careers. Brady had Gronk, Moss, a great defense backing him up and coach Belichick. He wasn't doing it alone. No way. None of them do. It's always just used against Purdy.

Of course every QB benefits from talent around them....it's also undeniable that the better the QB is, the less talent he needs around him to be successful. With your Smith/Lamb scenario, you are practically insinuating that both Dak and Purdy are surrounded by the equal in talent. Losing those two for Dak is far worse off than losing Williams/Deebo for Purdy because he still has Kittle, BA and CMC.

And elguapo is correct...the first SB for SF, it was Montana and Clark. Freddie Solomon was a serviceable player, but he was clearly propped up by Walsh and Montana. Who else? Earl Cooper? Ricky Patton? Bill Ring? That Super Bowl season came down to a top flight defense, and the beginning of the best QB I've ever seen.
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