QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It doesn't. Dak has a much better offensive line. That helps you. Also if you throw more you will get more sacks. Just basic statistics 101. But that offensive line is still better by a lot. He benefits from it too. It's not equal offensive lines. Take Trent Williams out and it's a garbage pile for us. He was for 3 games.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The defense lead by Lott had a great deal to do with their success. Lott, Wright, Willamson and Hicks desrtroyed defense that year. The added Dean and the pass rush made the D even better.

After they beat Dallas, HC Tom Landry said "it has to be Montana because there's nothing else there."

Oh I know about the defense....but anybody suggesting Montana had a bunch of all stars on offense in the first couple of years clearly has no business talking 49er football. It's simply not the truth. That is one of greatest examples of what makes a great QB....a guy who can do more with less. Montana is the epitome of that.....we haven't seen that at all from Purdy. I'm not saying he'll never do it, but I need to see it to believe it.

Originally posted by TyCore:
There's never going to be a scenario like that in football, again.

Every team is prepared, and literally manned, to defend the west coast spread offense.

You need precision and weapons now more than ever.

NOBODY in football is winning SBs without strong supporting cast.

That was over forty years ago lmao.

It's embarrassing to think like that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

1990 49ers offense
Jerry Rice
John Taylor
Brent Jones
Roger Craig
Tom Rathman
OC Mike Holmgren

Joe Montana - MVP

Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh? 🙄 And I'm sure he had to overcome all of…

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) December 9, 2023

Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.

exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level

Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.

you don't get any satire from riddick when said "Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh?
🙄"

it didn't say anything about BChippers because that was my point. Riddick is saying Joe was MVP due to those great players, which i showed they weren't drafted as high level talent and that they were average players who became great.

Sometimes it can be held against a QB like our Prior QB, but Joe/Brock are actually leading the way and not following

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It doesn't. Dak has a much better offensive line. That helps you. Also if you throw more you will get more sacks. Just basic statistics 101. But that offensive line is still better by a lot. He benefits from it too. It's not equal offensive lines. Take Trent Williams out and it's a garbage pile for us. He was for 3 games.

Purdy was sacked 1 time against the Vikings, twice against the Bengals. Hardly some jailbreak nonsense you want to put forth....but anyways:

Want me to prove with fact that it's irrelevant? Watch:

Would you trade the Dallas Cowboy offense minus the QB straight up with the 49ers? Yes or No?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Great thing Purdy is such a superior processor and gets the ball out quick. Also he is a nifty scrambler to buy time to throw and run for a 1st down too.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Great thing Purdy is such a superior processor and gets the ball out quick. Also he is a nifty scrambler to buy time to throw and run for a 1st down too.

Great thing you keep dodging the question/keep admitting you're wrong.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Your hot takes have been wrong in this whole thread.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Your hot takes have been wrong in this whole thread.

Now we're getting to a point where you're not even man enough to admit you're wrong.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You have been in everything you said.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

1990 49ers offense
Jerry Rice
John Taylor
Brent Jones
Roger Craig
Tom Rathman
OC Mike Holmgren

Joe Montana - MVP

Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh? 🙄 And I'm sure he had to overcome all of…

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) December 9, 2023

Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.

exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level

Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.

you don't get any satire from riddick when said "Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh?
🙄"

it didn't say anything about BChippers because that was my point. Riddick is saying Joe was MVP due to those great players, which i showed they weren't drafted as high level talent and that they were average players who became great.

Sometimes it can be held against a QB like our Prior QB, but Joe/Brock are actually leading the way and not following

I feel like riddick isn't saying that Joe was because of those guys. I think he is saying an all time great qb had a great staff/scheme and supporting cast - that it's normal for MVPs to have that.

i think he's saying it's dumb to say that the only reason he is doing well is cause he's carried by great players and scheme/staff.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
eric mangina said brock was off target with a lit of this throws vs philly but the wrs made up for it

wtf is he talkkng about? holy s**t does brock have to be 100% accurate at all times to win these f**ks over?

i know he missed aiyuk to open the 2nd half but other than that…wtf is he referring to

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Just this page, I see this: He is going to be very wealthy, even if his pay is not in the top 10.
and: My guess is he will accept a comparatively modest contract to keep the team together.

I hear those sentiments a lot, basically he's top shelf, except not when it comes time for contract, he'll give us a deal
Could happn.. imo he's already giving us the sweetheart deal now, we are on it as we speak, if anything, we owe him, not the other way round.

Saying you think it's possible he takes less money (primarily because you want him to take less money) has nothing to do with whether or not you think he's worth the money.

If he plays this well I 100 percent think he's worth a fair market deal. I still would love it if he signed for less, and hope he does.

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The defense lead by Lott had a great deal to do with their success. Lott, Wright, Willamson and Hicks desrtroyed defense that year. The added Dean and the pass rush made the D even better.

After they beat Dallas, HC Tom Landry said "it has to be Montana because there's nothing else there."

Oh I know about the defense....but anybody suggesting Montana had a bunch of all stars on offense in the first couple of years clearly has no business talking 49er football. It's simply not the truth. That is one of greatest examples of what makes a great QB....a guy who can do more with less. Montana is the epitome of that.....we haven't seen that at all from Purdy. I'm not saying he'll never do it, but I need to see it to believe it.

There's never going to be a scenario like that in football, again.

Every team is prepared, and literally manned, to defend the west coast spread offense.

You need precision and weapons now more than ever.

NOBODY in football is winning SBs without strong supporting cast.

That was over forty years ago lmao.

It's embarrassing to think like that.

• [Wikipedia]
• To open up the passing game, defenders are permitted to make contact with receivers only to a point of five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. This applies only to the time before the ball is thrown, at which point any contact is pass interference. Previously, contact was allowed anywhere on the field. This is usually referred to as the "Mel Blount Rule"
• The offensive team may only make one forward pass during a play from scrimmage, but only if the ball does not cross the line and return behind the line prior to the pass.
• Double touching of a forward pass is legal, but batting a pass towards the opponent's end zone is illegal. Previously, a second offensive player could not legally catch a deflected pass unless a defensive player had touched it. This is usually referred to as the "Mel Renfro Rule". During a play in Super Bowl V, Baltimore Colts receiver Eddie Hinton tipped a pass intended for him. Renfro, the Cowboys defensive back, made a stab at the ball and it was ruled that he tipped it ever so slightly (which he denied) into the arms of Colts tight end John Mackey, who ran for a touchdown. Later, this rule was also the one in question during the Immaculate Reception in 1972. But despite these two incidents, the rule change did not occur until this season.
• The pass blocking rules were extended to permit extended arms and open hands.