QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

1990 49ers offense
Jerry Rice
John Taylor
Brent Jones
Roger Craig
Tom Rathman
OC Mike Holmgren

Joe Montana - MVP

Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh? 🙄 And I'm sure he had to overcome all of…

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) December 9, 2023

Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.

exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level

Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.

you don't get any satire from riddick when said "Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh?
🙄"

it didn't say anything about BChippers because that was my point. Riddick is saying Joe was MVP due to those great players, which i showed they weren't drafted as high level talent and that they were average players who became great.

Sometimes it can be held against a QB like our Prior QB, but Joe/Brock are actually leading the way and not following

I feel like riddick isn't saying that Joe was because of those guys. I think he is saying an all time great qb had a great staff/scheme and supporting cast - that it's normal for MVPs to have that.

i think he's saying it's dumb to say that the only reason he is doing well is cause he's carried by great players and scheme/staff.

so Riddick & yourself think it was tough for Joe to carry those players ?

idk how you can think it's not a jab at Joe/Brock

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Brock and Young are about the same height.

Lol for a second I thought you meant Bryce young, I was like Bro.. you're smoking rocks. Hahahah

yeah, Brock and Steve young are similar size.

at the end of the day, their sizes are perfectly fine. More than adequate. I don't consider Steve young or Brock "short". They're not "tall" either - they're just average, IMO.

both have shown that it's a non issue, so who cares. I feel like the throwing motion is more of an issue than their height, like Herbert's (if he hasn't fixed it).

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

1990 49ers offense
Jerry Rice
John Taylor
Brent Jones
Roger Craig
Tom Rathman
OC Mike Holmgren

Joe Montana - MVP

Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh? 🙄 And I'm sure he had to overcome all of…

— Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) December 9, 2023

Drafted rounds:
Jerry Rice 1st pk 16
JT 3rd pk 76
BJ 5th pk 135
RC 2nd pk 49
TR 3rd pk 56
Joe 3rd pk 82

Seems kinda similar to 2023 9ers O

Aiyuk - 1st 25th pick
CMC - draft #8 overall but the 9ers only spent a 2nd, 4th, 5th and whatever else round picks, it still doesn't equal a top 10 pick.
Deebo - 2nd round
Kittle - 5th round
Purdy - 7th round

I won't say Purdy has less, but Kittle, Purdy and Deebo are playing much better than what they were projected to be in the NFL.

exactly, both teams are not stacked with blue chippers

How do you define "blue chips"? Im not trying to say you're wrong, just curious how you see it. I personally look at blue chips as guys who would do well in any system. But maybe you're saying that they weren't guys who came into the league amazing - outside of maybe CMC.

I see Aiyuk, kittle, and CMC as guys that would fit about anyway scheme and still be good. Although they had to be developed by our staff.

personally, I'll never apologize for our team being excellent since 2017 at identifying, not just diamonds in the rough, but excellent fits for our scheme. Developing them. The only all pro we have that we didn't draft and develop is Trent Williams.

Brock may not be as good in another situation but I think that can be said for just about any young qb. Brock is in just about as ideal of a situation as possible for a young guy. But we've also seen that guys like Lance and jimmy weren't able to do what he's been doing.

so like I said, I won't apologize to these dips**t people for the 49ers being excellent at identifying players with great talent, love for the game, hard working, excellent fits for the scheme. That's just called doing the front office/coaching staff doing their job at an extremely high level

Blue chip players are highly graded first round type of talent. i showed with where they were drafted, that they weren't expected to be HOF caliber players

The players we have then and now, weren't highly sought after or they would have been taken higher in the draft (excluding Rice/Aiyuk/CMC).

The reason they became who the are is a vision from a coach and the work those players did to get better. To the tweet mocking that Joe didn't have avg players, well he did, but they all had the vision to be great and ended up achieving that goal.

I didn't interpret the point of the tweet as mocking anything besides people knocking Brock because he has great scheme/play calling and great players around him. Same thing Brock has right now.

i don't think it mentioned anything about blue chip talent. They were all great players in their own right at that point - or about to explode.

Stuff like that shouldn't be held against a qb, he should be praised for how he's making the most of it and executing.

you don't get any satire from riddick when said "Must have been tough for Montana to carry all of those "average"players on his way to MVP and do it all by himself huh?
🙄"

it didn't say anything about BChippers because that was my point. Riddick is saying Joe was MVP due to those great players, which i showed they weren't drafted as high level talent and that they were average players who became great.

Sometimes it can be held against a QB like our Prior QB, but Joe/Brock are actually leading the way and not following

I feel like riddick isn't saying that Joe was because of those guys. I think he is saying an all time great qb had a great staff/scheme and supporting cast - that it's normal for MVPs to have that.

i think he's saying it's dumb to say that the only reason he is doing well is cause he's carried by great players and scheme/staff.

so Riddick & yourself think it was tough for Joe to carry those players ?

idk how you can think it's not a jab at Joe/Brock

I saw the argument that the tweet came about because of. He is saying nobody ever wins mvp without a strong supporting cast. Riddick was going off about the folks on Get Up saying Purdy shouldn't be an MVP candidate because of his supporting cast. It is %100 not a knock on anyone.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, Purdy's physical characteristics don't awe people like a Trey Lance kind of physique, but also QB is the hardest position to evaluate. It's hard to separate QB's performance from the WR's performance (as an example). So many first round busts are an example of just wrong or incorrect evaluations of QB's.

Purdy is ShanaLynch's get out of jail card when they blew the Trey Lance pick. He's a great combinations of arm accuracy, football IQ, enough speed and athleticism, and of course a great and mature personality. To me he's just a taller, and more mobile Drew Brees.

That's exactly what we want!

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by random49er:
So then why are we still on height? Lol.

Hopefully getting passes tipped is an area he'll improve in.

Unfortunately in a 3-step drop this will always be a risk and will happen occasionally i don't see any way around that but its nothing to worry about

I wouldn't worry about it either. Especially when a 6'6" QB leads the league in batted/tipped passes. That stat probably isn't due to a height issue but more about the pass protection and the QB staring down his receivers.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:


Lombardi also sees a lot similarities between Joe and Brock - Rhythm, accuracy, athleticism, timing.

All I was trying to say Mike.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Another great game today.