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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I was on board. I think most fans were. Kap added an explosive dynamic that we sorely lacked with Alex. There was a portion of the fan base that thought Alex was finally turning the corner and playing good ball. I personally hated how conservative Alex was and bad on third down.

Until someone plays at an elite level consistently and wins a chip, there will always be a crowd of whiners. Just the way it is, I don't think that's unique to our fan base.

Agreed every fan base complains about their QB

I also don't think it's always whining. Some fans didn't want to settle. Some folks in here were right to complain about Jimmy's play even though they were still winning… same with Alex imo.

I consider whiners to be the overly dramatic ones. It's one thing to say a qb isn't good at certain things and then it's another to say one is horrible at everything because they aren't great at everything.

i couldn't stand smith and also knew Jimmy had limitations, I just didn't think he was this horrible awful qb. It's really hard to find a good qb in this league, let alone an elite one.

we are honestly super super lucky we stumbled onto Brock because otherwise we would more than likely be in QB hell. I imagine similar to the jets, complete waste of a great roster.

regardless, couldn't be happier with Brock and the current situation we are in. Very fortunate! It's like the definition of when hard work meets luck. Lol
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't get too wrapped up in the statistical ranking or all time numbers because the game is so different than it was in the 80s. Nearly every rue change since then has helped the offense and hampered the D. We also have one more regular season game now so season totals are bound to be greater. I remember when they went from 14 to 16 games. Thousand yard rushers were no longer a big deal.

The only thing that's important is winning it all this year. Individual awards are fine but the Lombardi is what it's all about. Brock would much rather have that than the MVP.

Since Brock will most likely take down the all most passing yards in 49ers history before game 17, I find that impressive, but you're right that it's a completely different game. It SHOULD of been broken years ago if we had better qb play. All the rules benefit the QBs and O these days.

I'm greedy and want all our guys to win the accolades but I'll take no reg season awards and the super bowl mvp 😎

I went back and looked at the 1985 QB rankings
It really reveals how much the passing game has changed. Two players had a completion percentage over 60. Montana was first at 61.3 % O'Brien was second at 60.9%. Everyone else including Marino, Elway, Simms, Fouts and so on were all less than 60%. in 2023 the leaders are 70% and you have to go all the way down to 25th to find any QB under 60%

Passer rating was similar. There were 3 guys were over 90 in 1985. O'Brien was at 96.2, Esiason was at 93.2 and Montana was at 91.3. Everyone else was under 90. Today there are at least 12 QBs with a higher rating than Montana including Purdy at 116. It's just much easier for receiver to get open in the middle of the field where completions are easier with the rues the way they are. Receivers don't need to worry abut getting knocked off their feet when they come across the middle on those 12 yard patterns. Comparing Brock to other QBs in this era is fine. They all play by the same rules.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of 35 and younger fans realize how amazing those stats were for the time. Dan Marino 1984 season is the most impressive to me of all time. To put up those numbers in that time is like 6.5k passing and 70 TDs today.

I don't want anyone to think I'm discounting what Brock is doing. I just think that when we start making comparisons we need to compare apples and apples. You can't compare a car from today with one from 1950.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't get too wrapped up in the statistical ranking or all time numbers because the game is so different than it was in the 80s. Nearly every rue change since then has helped the offense and hampered the D. We also have one more regular season game now so season totals are bound to be greater. I remember when they went from 14 to 16 games. Thousand yard rushers were no longer a big deal.

The only thing that's important is winning it all this year. Individual awards are fine but the Lombardi is what it's all about. Brock would much rather have that than the MVP.

Since Brock will most likely take down the all most passing yards in 49ers history before game 17, I find that impressive, but you're right that it's a completely different game. It SHOULD of been broken years ago if we had better qb play. All the rules benefit the QBs and O these days.

I'm greedy and want all our guys to win the accolades but I'll take no reg season awards and the super bowl mvp 😎

I went back and looked at the 1985 QB rankings
It really reveals how much the passing game has changed. Two players had a completion percentage over 60. Montana was first at 61.3 % O'Brien was second at 60.9%. Everyone else including Marino, Elway, Simms, Fouts and so on were all less than 60%. in 2023 the leaders are 70% and you have to go all the way down to 25th to find any QB under 60%

Passer rating was similar. There were 3 guys were over 90 in 1985. O'Brien was at 96.2, Esiason was at 93.2 and Montana was at 91.3. Everyone else was under 90. Today there are at least 12 QBs with a higher rating than Montana including Purdy at 116. It's just much easier for receiver to get open in the middle of the field where completions are easier with the rues the way they are. Receivers don't need to worry abut getting knocked off their feet when they come across the middle on those 12 yard patterns. Comparing Brock to other QBs in this era is fine. They all play by the same rules.

Yeah, I don't think a lot of 35 and younger fans realize how amazing those stats were for the time. Dan Marino 1984 season is the most impressive to me of all time. To put up those numbers in that time is like 6.5k passing and 70 TDs today.

I don't want anyone to think I'm discounting what Brock is doing. I just think that when we start making comparisons we need to compare apples and apples. You can't compare a car from today with one from 1950.

Yeah, I get it. Im not either - I just think context is important. Brock breaking montana and young records is two fold for me, makes me realize how great of an accomplishment it was for their time and happy that we finally have another stud.
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Ruixx:
Oh eff Cohen, he only says that now to get clicks as he built up his negative agenda against Purdy all year. Not a journalist. Just a headline writer.

Really what should be the key to Purdy being the real deal is that this is the very first QB in decades that actually united Niners fans. No beat writer, no coach, literally no one is as hard on 49ers quarterbacks as 49ers fans (and I'm not saying that's a bad thing necessary, it's just a fanbase that really values and knows the QB position.)

Kap didn't unite the fan base?

Kap had a lot of haters that were Alex smith loyalists

Kaepernick took a lot of grief because he wasn't a particularly good QB. He had a couple of things he did pretty well, but he never learned how to play the position. As a result, he never elevated his game much beyond what it was when he first started and after a couple of years the league figured him out.

I imagine his sideline protest, which I didn't have a problem with, was a huge factor in why he never got a second chance. But still, most teams will always take a chance on talent so there must have been something in his game that they felt was lacking. Michael Vick went to prison for two years and he still had an opportunity to play when he got out. Seems to me that's a far more egregious thing than not standing for the National anthem, but I suspect that since most owners are billionaires, they're probably a pretty conservative lot, so that kind of behavior might not sit with them very well. Especially if they think a certain segment of the fans will object and so it might end up costing them money. Which is what it's all about, right? That and control. Like all big time sports the NFL is just another form of bread and circuses, without the bread, to keep the masses entertained and distracted from what's really going on.

The thing about Brock, which in the end is what made Lance expendable, is that he understands how to play the position. He seems to have elite vision and processing skills and a good enough arm to make all the throws and the mobility to make things happen if a play goes off schedule. Plus, he is just super competitive. So how can you not get behind that? One of the best things about every Brock TD pass is to watch how absolutely jacked he gets about it afterward. Jimmy had that as well but it's a quality I never really saw in Lance.

I think the main thing with Lance was that people were projecting all of their football god fantasies onto him before he even got out of the gate. They kept telling themselves he was going to be the next Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. I watched the highlights of both of their games yesterday and I'm not sure Lance would have ever gotten to that level, especially as a runner, which was supposed to be his big thing. In that regard, even Justin Fields is way better than him. I didn't have much of an opinion about it one way or another until the Raiders preseason game this year, where he was really just awful. Not to say he might not grow into being a decent player at some point down the road, but he simply wasn't the guy that a lot of people were trying to fool themselves into thinking he would be.
Originally posted by YACBros85:

I wonder if he wore that Dwight Clark hat forward as a shoe of respect for 87 or if that was just by chance.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't get too wrapped up in the statistical ranking or all time numbers because the game is so different than it was in the 80s. Nearly every rue change since then has helped the offense and hampered the D. We also have one more regular season game now so season totals are bound to be greater. I remember when they went from 14 to 16 games. Thousand yard rushers were no longer a big deal.

The only thing that's important is winning it all this year. Individual awards are fine but the Lombardi is what it's all about. Brock would much rather have that than the MVP.

Since Brock will most likely take down the all most passing yards in 49ers history before game 17, I find that impressive, but you're right that it's a completely different game. It SHOULD of been broken years ago if we had better qb play. All the rules benefit the QBs and O these days.

I'm greedy and want all our guys to win the accolades but I'll take no reg season awards and the super bowl mvp 😎

I went back and looked at the 1985 QB rankings
It really reveals how much the passing game has changed. Two players had a completion percentage over 60. Montana was first at 61.3 % O'Brien was second at 60.9%. Everyone else including Marino, Elway, Simms, Fouts and so on were all less than 60%. in 2023 the leaders are 70% and you have to go all the way down to 25th to find any QB under 60%

Passer rating was similar. There were 3 guys were over 90 in 1985. O'Brien was at 96.2, Esiason was at 93.2 and Montana was at 91.3. Everyone else was under 90. Today there are at least 12 QBs with a higher rating than Montana including Purdy at 116. It's just much easier for receiver to get open in the middle of the field where completions are easier with the rues the way they are. Receivers don't need to worry abut getting knocked off their feet when they come across the middle on those 12 yard patterns. Comparing Brock to other QBs in this era is fine. They all play by the same rules.

Great points, I agree with mostly with what you say, but even the original stats are good markers for excellence even if they are outdated. For example - the 4 minute mile by Roger Bannister, even if decades old, is still a relevant marker for excellence for many athletes in the running world.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by YACBros85:

I wonder if he wore that Dwight Clark hat forward as a shoe of respect for 87 or if that was just by chance.

Trying to get back into Colin Cowherd's good graces.
It's about time the national media puts respect on Brock's name, over 3500 passing yards, 25 TDs, 7 INTs(2 aren't really his fault, they were either batted or off the hands of a WR), 116.9 QB Rating. Purdy is a front runner for MVP IMO, and I'm tired of the narrative that he has great weapons so he's a system QB, so that means Tua is a system QB, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Montana was, Young? Makes no sense, every great QB had great playmakers.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by YACBros85:

I wonder if he wore that Dwight Clark hat forward as a shoe of respect for 87 or if that was just by chance.

Trying to get back into Colin Cowherd's good graces.

You know kittle is a scheming rn. Once Brock wins super bowl mvp, he is going to slap on a "franchise qb" hat on Brock backwards for the cameras. Lmao
ol Steve gonna have a hard time explaining this one
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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Brocky just seems to get incrementally better every game.... no stoppping him now until he takes a rest at Disneyland as the SBMVP

I'm betting if Brock was playing in the 2019 Superbowl game, he'd have hit Emmanuel Sanders for the win, by the way he was hitting the deep passes in the Seattle game yesterday.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Brocky just seems to get incrementally better every game.... no stoppping him now until he takes a rest at Disneyland as the SBMVP

I'm betting if Brock was playing in the 2019 Superbowl game, he'd have hit Emmanuel Sanders for the win, by the way he was hitting the deep passes in the Seattle game yesterday.

you gotta trigger warning me on stuff like this oh my gawwd
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
It's about time the national media puts respect on Brock's name, over 3500 passing yards, 25 TDs, 7 INTs(2 aren't really his fault, they were either batted or off the hands of a WR), 116.9 QB Rating. Purdy is a front runner for MVP IMO, and I'm tired of the narrative that he has great weapons so he's a system QB, so that means Tua is a system QB, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Montana was, Young? Makes no sense, every great QB had great playmakers.

Agree, but for me, between the MVP and a Superbowl win, I'll take the Superbowl win.
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