QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I just had another post, a page ago, that I pulled from an article. It says how kyles plays almost always have a route for short, intermediate, and deep - it just depends on what coverage the defense plays on where the qb should go with the ball. So I've always known the deep shots were there, I just always felt like Kyle gave up expecting those shots cause Jimmy almost never take em.

Honestly to only complete 6 in 5 years is insane.

the more we are learning (or at least IM understanding now), I get why Kyle was so frustrated with Jimmy. His offense wasn't being executed and it was making those wins much harder than they had to be, really makes me appreciate Kyle more as a coach. Even though I've always loved having him.

id be curious if someone has gone through the all22 and high lighted how many open deeper passes there were that he passed up. Has to be a ton. Has to be infuriating to be a guy like BA too - makes sense why he wanted Lance to play, he probably felt like the skill guys would potentially have better utilization.

Every offense has that, you want to challenge a defense at all levels but you only build credibility when you show that you can attack all levels.

With Purdy, not only is he willing and able to hit those deep passes with a high level of accuracy. defenses now have to honor the deep ball and defend accordingly. There's a lot less cheating up towards the line of scrimmage to stuff the run and smother intermediate routes, he'll go over the top of you if you give him that opportunity.

Well, to be fair, not every QB has that Drew Brees accuracy. Joe and Steve had it, Tom had it, and so does Purdy. I just can't say enough how **RARE** that skillset is. Its hard to spot. Same with his timing and anticipation. Those are hard to spot. Takes a former high level QB (I think) to even eliminate guys who don't have *it.*

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Fair point, Kyle picked JG and Trey. After taking Trey he at some point realized he effed up. So he hired a real QB coach and assigned the QB coach and the scouts the task of finding a late round gem, and the rest, is history

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Fair point, Kyle picked JG and Trey. After taking Trey he at some point realized he effed up. So he hired a real QB coach and assigned the QB coach and the scouts the task of finding a late round gem, and the rest, is history

I give all the credit to Kyle for that. No one else deserves any credit.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

I think Kirk's accuracy is on par with Jimmy. Kirk has his own issues that aren't the same as Jimmy's, in a sense. But Brock outclasses both in the accuracy department.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

He missed twice. Got it right the 3rd time.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Fair point, Kyle picked JG and Trey. After taking Trey he at some point realized he effed up. So he hired a real QB coach and assigned the QB coach and the scouts the task of finding a late round gem, and the rest, is history

I give all the credit to Kyle for that. No one else deserves any credit.

Slowik and Griese - i think - had more to do with Papa Shanahan than Kyle, but I get your point. Kyle had to ultimately make the decision to hire them as his coaches/scouts.

It amazes me that so many talented players like Metcalf can lose their cool so easily. He gets frustrated as son as he's not catching passes. If he could play under control he could probably be a consistent 1000 yard 100 reception player with that size and speed.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Fair point, Kyle picked JG and Trey. After taking Trey he at some point realized he effed up. So he hired a real QB coach and assigned the QB coach and the scouts the task of finding a late round gem, and the rest, is history

I give all the credit to Kyle for that. No one else deserves any credit.

Slowik and Griese - i think - had more to do with Papa Shanahan than Kyle, but I get your point. Kyle had to ultimately make the decision to hire them as his coaches/scouts.

All Kyle. If some want to blame Kyle for choosing Jimmy, then Kyle gets all the credit for hiring Slowik and Griese. Sounds fair to me.

Originally posted by thl408:
I give all the credit to Kyle for that. No one else deserves any credit.

I credit Kyle for hiring the good ppl, he has always surrounded himself with good ppl. Hard to even count all the good ppl we have had. Watching NYJ v HOU it's like ok this is our DC vs our other DC
then you have MIA tearing it up.
I do suspect he was more hands on with the obvious moves, not quite as much with the late round flyers.

Originally posted by Furlow:

I'm listening to it while I'm working - love it. it's cool that brock does so well every week (instead of so bad) that he does him. probably a large following of his are waiting for purdy videos. haha

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

I'm listening to it while I'm working - love it. it's cool that brock does so well every week (instead of so bad) that he does him. probably a large following of his are waiting for purdy videos. haha

I clicked on it 5 minutes after it posted and there were already 15 comments lol.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree about Kyle's frustration. He's seen first hand Steve Young, Elway, Matt Ryan, to just name a few of the elite QBs he's seen up close personally. Him seeing Jimmy pass up deep balls because of his accuracy limitations, probably one reason that made him go the Trey Lance trade rout.

i get the jimmy criticism, but ultimately kyle picked him over cousins. probably costed us at least one super bowl in doing so.

Fair point, Kyle picked JG and Trey. After taking Trey he at some point realized he effed up. So he hired a real QB coach and assigned the QB coach and the scouts the task of finding a late round gem, and the rest, is history

Look at teams still trying to find QBs. It's the most visible selection of any position. There is a lot of hit and miss out there amongst the teams that have had early selections. That Jets guy just to name one. I know it's easy to say these guys get paid the big bucks to find the right guy but if it were that easy every team would have outstanding QBs. It's just the way it goes. Jimmy was a cheap buy at first and we needed a QB. Cousins wasn't available at that time of Jimmy acquisition.

I 100% believe Kyle and John were thinking they were getting a Brock with Trey and I was 100% on board with that. I'm not going to slam the kid. It didn't quite turn out that way but from all appearances he did everything he could to be that guy. From QB coaches all off season to first in last out in building (so they say). He didn't need a no video games in his contract.

There is always a bit of luck and let's face it, we got a bit of luck on this one which in most cases is how it goes anyway. I'm just thankful I watch these games now and I'm blown away by the offense. It doesn't matter how many cans we kicked to get here. The point is we are here. I just hope the front office stays in place to get a few trophies. I honestly don't know what to expect from John. He seems maybe we get one it may be time to head home to San Diego. It was a blast and mission accomplished.

This is the year. It has to be.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I just had another post, a page ago, that I pulled from an article. It says how kyles plays almost always have a route for short, intermediate, and deep - it just depends on what coverage the defense plays on where the qb should go with the ball. So I've always known the deep shots were there, I just always felt like Kyle gave up expecting those shots cause Jimmy almost never take em.

Honestly to only complete 6 in 5 years is insane.

the more we are learning (or at least IM understanding now), I get why Kyle was so frustrated with Jimmy. His offense wasn't being executed and it was making those wins much harder than they had to be, really makes me appreciate Kyle more as a coach. Even though I've always loved having him.

id be curious if someone has gone through the all22 and high lighted how many open deeper passes there were that he passed up. Has to be a ton. Has to be infuriating to be a guy like BA too - makes sense why he wanted Lance to play, he probably felt like the skill guys would potentially have better utilization.

Every offense has that, you want to challenge a defense at all levels but you only build credibility when you show that you can attack all levels.

With Purdy, not only is he willing and able to hit those deep passes with a high level of accuracy. defenses now have to honor the deep ball and defend accordingly. There's a lot less cheating up towards the line of scrimmage to stuff the run and smother intermediate routes, he'll go over the top of you if you give him that opportunity.

Well, to be fair, not every QB has that Drew Brees accuracy. Joe and Steve had it, Tom had it, and so does Purdy. I just can't say enough how **RARE** that skillset is. Its hard to spot. Same with his timing and anticipation. Those are hard to spot. Takes a former high level QB (I think) to even eliminate guys who don't have *it.*

brock also has that rare calmness and confidence. Couple that with his study habits, personality, leadership etc etc - he's a special blend to be a premier NFL qb.

I personally have always favored traits like accuracy and composure over a lot of other traits, because I don't think you can ever be special without them. Special is subjective in each persons eyes but I don't think you can be a brees/rodgers/montana/brady etc without those. That is the caliber qb i've desired. So far, so good!

Long way to go but I'm loving the journey so far! can't wait for us to win a superbowl in a few months. muahahah

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

This ended in a fumble by WR Brandon Aiyuk but this gets the award for the sheer audacity throw of the week by #49ers QB Brock Purdy… pic.twitter.com/slPVjZCslF

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) December 11, 2023

#49ers QB Brock Purdy is up to 7 completions on 13 throws traveling 30+ air yards this season. He has 3 TDs and 0 INT on those attempts.

From 2017-2022, Jimmy Garoppolo had 6 completions on 40 throws of 30+ air yards. He had 2 TD and 6 INTs on those attempts.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) December 11, 2023

Next time he'll hit Kittle for a TD