QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
It's about time the national media puts respect on Brock's name, over 3500 passing yards, 25 TDs, 7 INTs(2 aren't really his fault, they were either batted or off the hands of a WR), 116.9 QB Rating. Purdy is a front runner for MVP IMO, and I'm tired of the narrative that he has great weapons so he's a system QB, so that means Tua is a system QB, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Montana was, Young? Makes no sense, every great QB had great playmakers.

Agree, but for me, between the MVP and a Superbowl win, I'll take the Superbowl win.

Same here, rather have SB win, and SB MVP, but to have all 3 would shut up Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright, Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith, etc.....

I'd like to think you're right...but you can't fix 'stupid'

Originally posted by Mankster:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
It's about time the national media puts respect on Brock's name, over 3500 passing yards, 25 TDs, 7 INTs(2 aren't really his fault, they were either batted or off the hands of a WR), 116.9 QB Rating. Purdy is a front runner for MVP IMO, and I'm tired of the narrative that he has great weapons so he's a system QB, so that means Tua is a system QB, Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, Montana was, Young? Makes no sense, every great QB had great playmakers.

Agree, but for me, between the MVP and a Superbowl win, I'll take the Superbowl win.

Same here, rather have SB win, and SB MVP, but to have all 3 would shut up Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright, Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith, etc.....

I'd like to think you're right...but you can't fix 'stupid'

Probably only Sharpe. The rest get paid for being an idiot on TV.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
And a lot of those same fans said our season was over after the Miami game last year.

Lol there were like 5 people who didn't lose hope and 4 of them were lying to themselves, cmon man

Before the Miami game, I did say that if Jimmy went down - we are effed. A rookie 7th round pick?? Please. Lol

then I never really had a chance to be down when Jimmy went down because I was immediately mesmerized by Brock's play. I was so shocked at what he did that I never really thought about anything but "can he keep it up?".

then I became a brocksexual and have been ever since.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Rest Ward, play Hargrave in rotation if he's okay.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Before the Miami game, I did say that if Jimmy went down - we are effed. A rookie 7th round pick?? Please. Lol

then I never really had a chance to be down when Jimmy went down because I was immediately mesmerized by Brock's play. I was so shocked at what he did that I never really thought about anything but "can he keep it up?".

then I became a brocksexual and have been ever since.

It is crazy that we had two season ending injuries at the most important position in a single season that worked to our benefit. It also clouded a lot of the offseason arguing, lol.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
This may have already been brought up but I just saw a clip of Brock talking about his TD pass to Deebo against Seattle. He said that the play was designed to go to someone else, but when the ball was snapped, he saw that Jamal Adams was standing kind of flat-footed and didn't think he could get his hips turned around in time to stick with Deebo, so he just laid it out there for Deebo to go and get. I mean really, how cool is that?

His accuracy is unreal how he can fit those passes and drop them over defenders. I haven't seen those kinds of dime passes in *years!*

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
He has 84 throw power which seems absolutely ridiculous to me. He should be in the 88 - 90 range.

To me his rating should be way higher than 90. I think a super bowl win will help change that!

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Looking at that comparison chart I can understand why some people have Dak as MVP. First of all he doesn't have as many weapons as Purdy. None of us can deny that their playmakers just don't match up with SF. The other thing is he plays for the Cowboys. Like it or not, those Eastern writers are going to favor a guy from the NFC East over the NFC West if it's close. I think it should be Purdy but I won't be upset if Dak wins it. Especially if the Niners win the SB.

Can you? Because I absolutely cannot. Dak is CLEARLY #2 when you look at this chart.

Same.

You had me at Dak is clearly number 2

To you and most Niner fans he's #1. That isn't necessarily true for people in other parts of the country. Many of them don't actually see him play and see the way he finds open receivers when the play breaks down. They still view hm as a rather small QB with limited athletic skills. Remember Dallas games are shown in the Eastern time zone so more people see him play. I'm not defending Dak. I'm just trying to explain why Dak is viewed as the MVP favorite by many.

What does not being a Niner fan have to do with being able to read a chart?

People that vote on these awards don't just look at numbers. Those stats may be relevant but the voters look at a lot of things. Come on. You watch enough sports to know that. They're often a popularity contest. They look at comeback wins and that ranks high in their view because those are memorable. It 's often been suggested that the award shouldn't be called most valuable. It should be most outstanding. Those are 2 different things. East coast bias is real and always has been. Two thirds of the population lives there. They don't care about or see many Niner games.

Niner fans are fixated on the Niners. Why not. That's our team. We want our guys to win every award. If they wait until after the SB then the winner of that would often be the MVP.

It sometimes comes down to how would a team do if they had a different QB. The Niners wouldn't be as good but they would still be a playoff team. They have so many weapons that it would be nearly impossible for them not to play well enough to make the playoffs. We saw the Niners make the SB with JG who isn't as good as Brock but was good enough. He didn't have the weapons that Brock had either. Sanders was maybe their best receiver along with Kittle. They didn't have CMC. Still they nearly beat KC. Dallas has Dak and Lamb on offense and a good O line. The rest of their offensive talent is average at best. So you could say Dak is more valuable. Not better but more important to his team relative to the rest of the talent on the team.

Dude, you literally said "Looking at that comparison chart I can understand why some people have Dak as MVP."

Every word you have said in every post on this topic is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the sentence above that I was replying to. You said you can understand it BASED ON THE CHART. Nothing based on the chart suggests Dak is worthy of MVP over Purdy.

You either didn't read every word I said or I didn't make myself clear. When I said I understand how people looking at that chart would vote for Brock but I also said that people like you and me aren'y the ones that vote. I also followed up saying that the voters don't just use stats. I heard several arguments the last couple of weeks and most have Dak leading. I'm know it may not be right but that's what most people around the country are thinking. Again not in the Bay Area but nation wide. To much of the country the Niners are a good team but for some reason Dallas is always overhyped. Their players are too.

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Anyone know what Purdy's current madden ranking is? Just curious

He's the 9th ranked QB at 85 overall.

Wow, he was I think a 71 when 2023 began/when the game came out. Does he have the superstar label too?

He has 84 throw power which seems absolutely ridiculous to me. He should be in the 88 - 90 range.

Just tap on the controller buttons faster.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You either didn't read every word I said or I didn't make myself clear. When I said I understand how people looking at that chart would vote for Brock but I also said that people like you and me aren'y the ones that vote. I also followed up saying that the voters don't just use stats. I heard several arguments the last couple of weeks and most have Dak leading. I'm know it may not be right but that's what most people around the country are thinking. Again not in the Bay Area but nation wide. To much of the country the Niners are a good team but for some reason Dallas is always overhyped. Their players are too.

They get constant attention in the media, are currently rolling, and Dak especially is playing great. He's had an awesome 6-7 weeks… basically ever since the 49ers game.

Yea we'll have fans here who want to argue Brock's superiority in the bulk of the efficiency numbers, and the head to head victory, as well as the Cowboys penchant for facing and destroying bad teams… but at least the Dak hype is actually warranted.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Look at teams still trying to find QBs. It's the most visible selection of any position. There is a lot of hit and miss out there amongst the teams that have had early selections. That Jets guy just to name one. I know it's easy to say these guys get paid the big bucks to find the right guy but if it were that easy every team would have outstanding QBs. It's just the way it goes. Jimmy was a cheap buy at first and we needed a QB. Cousins wasn't available at that time of Jimmy acquisition.

I 100% believe Kyle and John were thinking they were getting a Brock with Trey and I was 100% on board with that. I'm not going to slam the kid. It didn't quite turn out that way but from all appearances he did everything he could to be that guy. From QB coaches all off season to first in last out in building (so they say). He didn't need a no video games in his contract.

There is always a bit of luck and let's face it, we got a bit of luck on this one which in most cases is how it goes anyway. I'm just thankful I watch these games now and I'm blown away by the offense. It doesn't matter how many cans we kicked to get here. The point is we are here. I just hope the front office stays in place to get a few trophies. I honestly don't know what to expect from John. He seems maybe we get one it may be time to head home to San Diego. It was a blast and mission accomplished.

This is the year. It has to be.

That is why I never understood why some where so upset with Jimmy - it's hard to find a good qb in this league and he was solid for us. Not ideal, but not horrible either. regardless, it's over. so whatever, it was a nice little run.

I think the team geniuenly believed they were getting a special player in Trey and trey didn't fail here because of lack of effort - he def did his part. there are a lot of reasons it didn't work. He's still young and may pan out for someone. I never really liked the selection but it had to do with trey the QB and not trey the person.

getting an elite QB in this league may require more luck than anything. lol we def lucked into Brock. I have no issue with that.

I'm just glad we finally got a top notch QB while we still have this roster and it isn't wasted like the harbaugh years were. I can't wait to see what we do it with it in the playoffs. I think it'll be super special performances.

Agree, it's very hard to find even an above average QB. If 49ers can retain either Brandon Allen or Sam Darnold to back up Purdy, I'd like for the 49ers to draft another young QB in the later rounds, just for developmental purposes and possible trade bait down the road.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You either didn't read every word I said or I didn't make myself clear. When I said I understand how people looking at that chart would vote for Brock but I also said that people like you and me aren'y the ones that vote. I also followed up saying that the voters don't just use stats. I heard several arguments the last couple of weeks and most have Dak leading. I'm know it may not be right but that's what most people around the country are thinking. Again not in the Bay Area but nation wide. To much of the country the Niners are a good team but for some reason Dallas is always overhyped. Their players are too.

They get constant attention in the media, are currently rolling, and Dak especially is playing great. He's had an awesome 6-7 weeks… basically ever since the 49ers game.

Yea we'll have fans here who want to argue Brock's superiority in the bulk of the efficiency numbers, and the head to head victory, as well as the Cowboys penchant for facing and destroying bad teams… but at least the Dak hype is actually warranted.

At the end of the day, if it comes down to BP vs Dak, the head to head result would make it very hard to give to Dak. There could be a splitting of the vote tho. I am not aware of any other DAL MVP candidate.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You either didn't read every word I said or I didn't make myself clear. When I said I understand how people looking at that chart would vote for Brock but I also said that people like you and me aren'y the ones that vote. I also followed up saying that the voters don't just use stats. I heard several arguments the last couple of weeks and most have Dak leading. I'm know it may not be right but that's what most people around the country are thinking. Again not in the Bay Area but nation wide. To much of the country the Niners are a good team but for some reason Dallas is always overhyped. Their players are too.

They get constant attention in the media, are currently rolling, and Dak especially is playing great. He's had an awesome 6-7 weeks… basically ever since the 49ers game.

Yea we'll have fans here who want to argue Brock's superiority in the bulk of the efficiency numbers, and the head to head victory, as well as the Cowboys penchant for facing and destroying bad teams… but at least the Dak hype is actually warranted.

The vote is decided like thus. 80% is based on a panel of sportswriters. That gives any player that's seen a lot in the astern time zone an edge since there are more writers based in the east. The other 20% is based on a ranked voting system from the fans. Once again, more fans in the east. It's harder for a player on the west coast to win even when they deserve it.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
At the end of the day, if it comes down to BP vs Dak, the head to head result would make it very hard to give to Dak. There could be a splitting of the vote tho. I am not aware of any other DAL MVP candidate.

I just think there's still a lot left to be decided between the two. Niners win out, take the 1 seed, and Purdy plays impressively against Ravens (and probably Rams too)… he's going to be right there. It's a week to week league especially for the talking heads of the world.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Before the Miami game, I did say that if Jimmy went down - we are effed. A rookie 7th round pick?? Please. Lol

then I never really had a chance to be down when Jimmy went down because I was immediately mesmerized by Brock's play. I was so shocked at what he did that I never really thought about anything but "can he keep it up?".

then I became a brocksexual and have been ever since.

It is crazy that we had two season ending injuries at the most important position in a single season that worked to our benefit. It also clouded a lot of the offseason arguing, lol.

I think that's the best way to deal with injuries, to use injuries to uncover diamonds in the rough. That means spending a ton of hours looking through and putting a ton of effort and energy in the later rounds - as much or more - than the effort you put in the earlier rounds. Guys like Ilm Manning, Jalen Graham, or Dee Winters - who I think are diamonds in the rough, and just need an opportunity showcase their talent. Jiayr Brown is another guy that they got in the Later rounds that looks like an all pro in the making. (I know he's a 3rd round pick) Ronnie Bell is another late round gem. I wish he was bigger though.