Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree with both, but the QB position is so hard to evaluate. Even a genius Offensive Guru like Kyle has made QB mistakes (Patrick Mahomes) and Brock - being drafted dead last. Brock - I totally agree - is the lotto pick. Totally unexpected and extremely rare talent that's generational. You don't get talent like that - even if you had 10 number one draft picks each of the last 5 years in my opinion. I think he's that rare a talent.
About once every 20 years there comes a montana/Brady type qb. I really think we are about to witness a QB of their caliber again - one that just leads their team to the promise land over and over again.
its WAYY too early to tell with Brock but he just has that vibe to me.
Your feeling and the stats agree. He's had generational stats since last year.
For me, it's more than the stats though. It's how he reads defenses, progresses through his reads, composure, accuracy, play making ability, conspire etc. it just "feels" right to me. Everything about him screams "special player". He doesn't necessarily look like one but neither does Aaron Rodgers or montana, until they were.
people will say I'm getting ahead of myself and I really don't care. I know there are YEARS more of things we need to see before that can even become remotely true but I think that is what'll happen. I'd bet we win at least 3-4 rings in the next 7-8 years
I've seen enough. He has no weaknesses to his game and executes plays the way a good play designer envisions his play to work. As long as he has competent weapons, he will put up production numbers. That wasn't a slight, all good QBs need playmakers to throw to.
The only thing left for me to see is more performances in end of game situations. By my count he is 2 for 2 so far (vs LVR 2022, vs CLE), where he led a drive that led to a makeable game winning FG, but it was missed.
Agree 💯%, and I'll just add this about weapons. Joe didn't have any weapons in 1982 and went 3-6. I think if Brock only had Jauan Jennings, Ray Ray McCloud, and Ronnnie Bell, I think he'd still make this offense sing - as long as he had Mitchell and Mason. I think this offense will still be scoring in the mid twenties with that personnel.
In 81 Solomon went for 950+ and Clark went for 1100+, Earl Cooper was the first version of Roger Craig and had 2000 yards from scrimmage the previous 2 seasons.
He had talent to work with..... 82 however....was a jacked up strike season. No running game, and defense jacked that season up. Even with all that...Clark still went for 900+ yards in the 9 game season.
Great points!
Earl Cooper and Bill Ring - early versions of CMC and Marshall Faulk!
Roger Craig and Ricky Watters were 2nd generation WCO running backs. Marshall was 3rd generation, now you have the next generation - Deebo and CMC!
What I love about Deebo and CMC is that they are basically versions of each other - like having two Jerry Rices and two Roger Craigs!
Aiyuk being John Taylor.