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49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by captveg:
Completely lost in the national media talk regarding Purdy is how much effort he's put into improving his game, and how that has resulted in his improved play on the field.
Worked hard to improve in the time before the draft. His arm strength improved from his college measurements. Worked hard to beat out Sudfield for the 3rd QB job. Learned the playbook so well he was able to crash course McCaffrey on it after the trade. Worked hard to recover from his injury in order to start Week 1. Worked during the bye to improve his deep passing.
People keep expecting him to regress. What if his work ethic has him being even better in 3-4 seasons?
I remembered people argued it would be much much harder to improve the deep throws comparing to short throws.
What they are trying to say is Trey can improve tremendously in his short throws while Brock won't be able to improved much in his deep throws.
Brock has been ridiculously accurate on his deep throws this season. That is something you typically work on during the off season before training camp (training camp would be timing with the receivers). Brock didn't really have that but was still able to improve so much.
You see those truck commercials, he's out there grinding with weight training in em, and those commercials air pretty much round the clock, so clearly he's putting in a lot of work
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Memphis9er
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree 💯% and I'll just add - so far (knock on wood) he's been pretty durable and came back from a season ending injury months before he was scheduled to come back from. Jimmy would have had several injuries by now and would be on IR, if he was still a 49er.
I saw both Steve and Joe play, and Brock's right up there with them in terms of touch, timing and accuracy. For a second (actually a season or two) Colin also looked the part. The problem with Colin was his lack of dedication and focus towards his profession, and the fact that the 49er front office was atrocious in drafting. Jimmy was a good QB for the 49ers, but he had his issues - lack of accuracy, injuries, and bad mechanics. Jeff Garcia had a crap organization to play for. All in all the Combo of ShanaLynch and Brock Purdy is proving lethal to the NFL.
Colin had no touch and only average accuracy.
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SLCNiner
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I don't know, I was as pro Lance as anyone in here, if for no other reason I thought it benefited the team if they had 2 great QBs. Also felt like he was dealt a tough hand here and thought the best case scenario would have been for him to start the season and blow everyone away. Had that happened we'd have likely got a lot more in trade for him than we did, but it's 100% moot at this point. I'm thrilled to finally have a FQB, savoring every game on what I truly believe to be a Super Bowl run and think people still doing victory laps over his departure should try doing the same.
I don't think your opinion was unique. There was a small group of Niners fans that shared it and were incredibly vocal about it. My position through most of those arguments was that people weren't seeing that barring a significant jump from Trey in the offseason, which nobody should have expected (especially the people arguing he should play), the argument was already over.
Yeah, it was just hope, however misplaced. That's all we have as sports fans, I mean there are currently football fans all over New York that still have hope of making the playoffs.
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Wubbie
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree 💯% and I'll just add - so far (knock on wood) he's been pretty durable and came back from a season ending injury months before he was scheduled to come back from. Jimmy would have had several injuries by now and would be on IR, if he was still a 49er.
I saw both Steve and Joe play, and Brock's right up there with them in terms of touch, timing and accuracy. For a second (actually a season or two) Colin also looked the part. The problem with Colin was his lack of dedication and focus towards his profession, and the fact that the 49er front office was atrocious in drafting. Jimmy was a good QB for the 49ers, but he had his issues - lack of accuracy, injuries, and bad mechanics. Jeff Garcia had a crap organization to play for. All in all the Combo of ShanaLynch and Brock Purdy is proving lethal to the NFL.
Colin had no touch and only average accuracy.
My recollection of Kaepernick is he had a really strong arm and didn't really have a lot of touch. Could hit the intermediate routes with ease because his arm was strong. But not the same as what Purdy's doing now, because Purdy's hitting the intermediate routes due to his tremendous anticipation.
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SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
I thought there were more people trying to make things Brock vs Trey than there was actual Trey>Brock people. I never said anything remotely negative about Brock, but was assumed to dislike him because I defended Trey...
Isn't it implied in those posts that there were more Brock people? We're talking about a single job here so the one or the other dynamic is natural. I think most people were fine with keeping Trey on the team as a backup.
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Wubbie
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I thought there were more people trying to make things Brock vs Trey than there was actual Trey>Brock people. I never said anything remotely negative about Brock, but was assumed to dislike him because I defended Trey...
Isn't it implied in those posts that there were more Brock people? We're talking about a single job here so the one or the other dynamic is natural. I think most people were fine with keeping Trey on the team as a backup.
I fell into the camp of people that would've liked to keep Trey. But I think Keep Trey vs. trade for mid/late round picks was more of a question. Purdy was playing too well at the end of the last season for it to be a realistic competition between them.
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SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
I fell into the camp of people that would've liked to keep Trey. But I think Keep Trey vs. trade for mid/late round picks was more of a question. Purdy was playing too well at the end of the last season for it to be a realistic competition between them.
Exactly. I think this was the most commonly held opinion of the fans overall.
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I think there is a lot of people that did not like the Trey pick, but gave shanny a bit of leeway on it...if that is who shanty wants, then I guess he knows something we have not seen....
When that fell apart....and Trey looked like some expected Trey to look....it was inevitable the "next guy up" was going to get tons of love.
What set that conversation on fire....was....a very vocal part of the Trey crowd expected Brock to be a 7th round QB and kept predicting his regression. So it took them a minute to realize what they were seeing....eventually they had to shut up...
In fairness....Brock looks lucky as hell....
I love Brock, but I said multiple times he either knows this offense like the back of his hand, or he is hella lucky....the dude is inches away from disaster a heck of a lot. I can see why some expected him to regress.
I think Tank was the guy that said something like....young QBs get better...why would you expect Brock to not improve next year (he said that last year)....and I know I personally am a Rah Rah Brock guy...but Brock being even better could not register with me.
Yet here we are....MVP level QB....
Bonkers dude
Bonkers
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think there is a lot of people that did not like the Trey pick, but gave shanny a bit of leeway on it...if that is who shanty wants, then I guess he knows something we have not seen....
When that fell apart....and Trey looked like some expected Trey to look....it was inevitable the "next guy up" was going to get tons of love.
What set that conversation on fire....was....a very vocal part of the Trey crowd expected Brock to be a 7th round QB and kept predicting his regression. So it took them a minute to realize what they were seeing....eventually they had to shut up...
In fairness....Brock looks lucky as hell....
I love Brock, but I said multiple times he either knows this offense like the back of his hand, or he is hella lucky....the dude is inches away from disaster a heck of a lot. I can see why some expected him to regress.
I think Tank was the guy that said something like....young QBs get better...why would you expect Brock to not improve next year (he said that last year)....and I know I personally am a Rah Rah Brock guy...but Brock being even better could not register with me.
Yet here we are....MVP level QB....
Bonkers dude
Bonkers
I would agree with Purdy being "inches away from disaster" but that's what it takes to be a top QB and offense in the NFL. Playing it safe and waiting for WR's to be open is what we got from Alex and Jimmy - keeps you in games but makes it really difficult to get over the hump.
And I would add that as this season has progressed, "inches away from disaster" type throws have happened less and less with each game. As good as he was playing last year and early on this year - he is actually getter better as we get further into the season.
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Young2Owens
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Colin lacked the mentality to succeed. He had the tools, albeit wonky in his release but that's not a deal breaker. What was his undoing is he wasn't a student of the game. He didn't invest the time to learn how to read coverages, pre and post snap. He wasn't a natural processor, so he had to work extra hard on the other mental aspects, and he just didn't do that.
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Kap burst on to the seen with his strong arm and gazelle like stride, he put the read option in to NFL playbooks.... but Colin had a limited game, once he got figured out it was all over for him.
Our boy Brocky won't get schemed and shut down like this, his football IQ and physical skills will endure.
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SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Colin lacked the mentality to succeed. He had the tools, albeit wonky in his release but that's not a deal breaker. What was his undoing is he wasn't a student of the game. He didn't invest the time to learn how to read coverages, pre and post snap. He wasn't a natural processor, so he had to work extra hard on the other mental aspects, and he just didn't do that.
Probably didn't help that the team imploded around him and the coaching staff was on the outs his 2nd full year starting.
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What I like about BP more than his playing, is his character:).
. Just top notch dude. Some qbs can get caught up in the success and praises but not this guy. No worries about if this guy will turn into Mahomes. None at all. Class act.
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
I thought there were more people trying to make things Brock vs Trey than there was actual Trey>Brock people. I never said anything remotely negative about Brock, but was assumed to dislike him because I defended Trey...
1000% accurate.
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SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by Montana:
What I like about BP more than his playing, is his character:). . Just top notch dude. Some qbs can get caught up in the success and praises but not this guy. No worries about if this guy will turn into Mahomes. None at all. Class act.
Wait til he gets paid.
Everything seems on the up and up and then one morning he crashes his suv into a tree outside the front of his house, lol.