QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Damn! I just realized Cam is the only guy that has:

1. won a Heisman
2. won a National championship
3. won an NFL MVP
4. went to a Super Bowl

Doggone right he has his right to his opinion just as much if not more than any of us do. I just think that the most important person in 49er land in Kyle Shanahan would vehemently disagree with him about Brock

Cam was definitely a great QB during his prime. It doesn't mean his opinion of what defines an MVP is the only way a player can be MVP. I'm guessing that he's comparing Brock to himself and doesn't see the same abilities, which is true. Brock is a much better game processor and playmaker than Cam, but Brock doesn't run like a FB and doesn't have over-compensating arm strength.

moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

Originally posted by Chance:
Weren't you disparaging of Brock just a few weeks ago?

Originally posted by Chance:
Lol, what praise has been over the top? Dude has arguably the best start to a career in NFL history, which has proven those heaping early praise correct. Those that have waxed indignant and tried to pour cold water on that praise have looked foolish with every passing week. You were quite active in that regard when things weren't going well. But Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Originally posted by Chance:
You're building a strawman. Few called him the next anybody. Most people just noted that he was playing at an elite level. I, for example, said he was playing like prime Montana, something he has continued to do since I made that statement. There's nothing in there about proclaiming him someone and a wait and see approach is still part of that equation. You, on the other hand, were never advocating a measured approach, but rather finding ways to portray his play as not as good as it was in reality. This is why you were so much more active in this thread when he had some struggles. We can certainly check the receipts.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Wait, aren't you the guy who was trying to convince everyone that Trey was the best qb on the roster?

All of these 🔥

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
The bald pats fan on rich eisens show said this exact thing, so annoying

Dude's a complete bonehead.

Jimmy "took us to a Superbowl" so it's gotta be Kyle's system.

I think it really guts a TON of football fans that we finally have a FQB.

All this Brock derision is just cope.

Ya jimmy was never considered as a pro bowl qb let alone mvp of the league, equating the two as equals is such a horrible take

Yet, some spent the whole offseason doing just that lol

Even some of Jimmys biggest supporters have been saying since last year that Brock is a lot better.

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Now it's like "go ahead, Defenses - put that ball in Brock montanas hands 😘" he will cram it down your throat.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Idk why some posters act like a qb being "good" means they're one of the best qbs in the league. Lol there aren't that many QBs in the league who start that do a "good job". The drop offs are huge for the qb position after like the 15th best qb in the league.

elite QBs: there are usually only about 3-5 of these a year. This year is a super down year for QBs, so maybe only like 1-2 QBs playing elite l.

Really good but not elite: usually ranked 4-8 best QBs of these a year.

good (essentially consistent game managers): usually ranked as about 8-15th best QBs a year

unreliable/low end game managers/crap: usually the 15-32 ranked QBs in a year.

jimmy typically fell in the "good" ranking on most weeks. Whatever you Label these groups is subjective but most of us think jimmy fell/falls under the "good" ranking and on his best weeks, really good. That's where Jimmy stood as a qb when he was here. Saying he was "awful" or one of the worst QBs in the league is dishonest. That's what most people were arguing with, not that jimmy was the best qb in the league.

no one in their right mind thinks jimmy is anywhere as good As Brock.

Most of us didn't care if Jimmy was replaced, we just didn't believe Lance that answer. Lance was legitimately bad when he played (which was seldom) and we didn't want to spend a year or two trying to figure out if he would become as good as jimmy or better - that would of been a waste of time with this roster, In our opinion.

now Brock is ranked amongst the best QBs in the league where he belongs. Lance is third string and inactive on game day and can't beat out darnold/cooper rush, where he currently belongs. Jimmy played like crap and isn't the answer as a long time starting qb for a team, and is a backup, which is where he belongs. Jimmy was bad at being mobile and throwing the deep/sideline passes, the rest of his game is pretty reliable - that isn't a "bad qb" in this system and with this talent, in most of our opinions.

Great post.

especially the bold

People are still hung up on the draft position. Undoubtedly, the 49ers have great talent and coaching around him. But imagine Purdy being the first QB off the board in 2022. He goes to the Steelers instead of Pickett. Another fantastic organization, long tenured coach, tradition of winning. Pretty good talent on offense with George Pickens, Diontae Johnson has been a target machine, Freiermuth was looking like a good TE, Najee was a first round pick with 2 straight 1000 yard seasons before settling into more of a timeshare this year. Warren has been really efficient this year. Not elite playmakers, but not a bad supporting cast around him. If Purdy was a first round pick on that Steeler team and was playing this well, he'd be thought of in the same tier as Trevor Lawerence and Justin Herbet.

People forget that after Brady won his first super bowl, fans were calling for Bledsoe to get the starting job back. They thought Brady got lucky or had a hot streak and they needed to go back to the elite former first overall pick that just signed a big contract. He was the talented one. The next year the Pats missed the playoffs and Bledsoe finished second in the league in passing yards and was a pro bowler for the rival Bills. People were still questioning the decision and couldnt belief they handed the reigns to a team with super bowl level talent to a 6th round pick.

I watched what Acho said, too. I disagree with just about everything he said.

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. Threw for what was it? 35 TDs and ran for 10 more? (I don't know the exact number). Best WR was Ted Ginn Jr. who was one of the fastest players in the league… only got 747-ish yards? Does that not have anything to do with the doofus throwing the football, or the defense giving them shorter fields?

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. But, when asked to be a good Quarterback? He was terrible, and washed up by age 30.

When I think Cam Newton, I only remember him pouting on the sidelines with the towel hooded over his head, which he did with great frequency.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Now it's like "go ahead, Defenses - put that ball in Brock montanas hands ????" he will cram it down your throat.

best bet is to keep brock on the sidelines, but even that's hard if you have to sustain drives vs an elite defense

honestly it might be checkmate for the opposition this year

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Now it's like "go ahead, Defenses - put that ball in Brock montanas hands 😘" he will cram it down your throat.

It is so satisfying to watch the sidelines and mic-ed up videos with the defense so pumped and confident for our offense. They have full trust in them and love watching it. Coming from a defense that was light years over offense decade, it's been one of the best things about this year- just the excitement of the defense for their teammates on the other side of the ball.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Now it's like "go ahead, Defenses - put that ball in Brock montanas hands ????" he will cram it down your throat.

best bet is to keep brock on the sidelines, but even that's hard if you have to sustain drives vs an elite defense

honestly it might be checkmate for the opposition this year

As long as we stay healthy. Need to win this Arizona game without a handful of key guys, so they're good for the baltimore game.

i think this will be a game where the offense is going to have to carry the defense. I don't think our D will get lit up but I don't think they'll be nearly as dominate as we are used to seeing. I worry about the run game.

so will need Brock to have a big, crisp game

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I watched what Acho said, too. I disagree with just about everything he said.

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. Threw for what was it? 35 TDs and ran for 10 more? (I don't know the exact number). Best WR was Ted Ginn Jr. who was one of the fastest players in the league… only got 747-ish yards? Does that not have anything to do with the doofus throwing the football, or the defense giving them shorter fields?

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. But, when asked to be a good Quarterback? He was terrible, and washed up by age 30.

When I think Cam Newton, I only remember him pouting on the sidelines with the towel hooded over his head, which he did with great frequency.

I was never worried about cam whenever we faced the panthers.

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I watched what Acho said, too. I disagree with just about everything he said.

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. Threw for what was it? 35 TDs and ran for 10 more? (I don't know the exact number). Best WR was Ted Ginn Jr. who was one of the fastest players in the league… only got 747-ish yards? Does that not have anything to do with the doofus throwing the football, or the defense giving them shorter fields?

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. But, when asked to be a good Quarterback? He was terrible, and washed up by age 30.

When I think Cam Newton, I only remember him pouting on the sidelines with the towel hooded over his head, which he did with great frequency.

Cam values most in other QBs what gave him the most success. His approach to quarterbacking was all about speed and power and being physically dominant. I think he looks at guys like Dak and Purdy being put in the MVP discussion and is genuinely upset that they would be discussed as if they were in the same category as him.

"These dudes can't run over defenders, they can't throw it 50 yards on a line, what is this?"

I don't think he has much appreciation for the aspects of quarterbacking that he was never very good at so its easy to overlook that these these other guys are thriving in ways that he never did or could.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You didn't realize that. Acho told you that.

I heard it from Chris Canty