QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Right! Many teams look for that super athletic freak for a QB. Most of those types fail at the position, though. Creep up and take away the first read, and most are rendered impotent.

Because the way Cam succeeded in the NFL is not applicable to 99% of QBs out there. It's also not great if you're looking for longevity at the position. While it's become common for QBs to play into their late 30s nowadays, Cam was washed at 30 because of his style of play. All those hits and smashing into defenders eventually caught up to him. If Josh Allen doesn't chill then it'll catch up to him as well sooner rather than later.

I kinda can relate to that. When I started training Jiu Jitsu at 38 years old, I could take a beating being pressured, slammed and put into crazy submissions where I would've tap for no one. Now at the age of 47, I've slowed down, don't move as fast and tap almost right away as soon as I get put into an arm-bar, loop choke or baseball bat choke. lol

Imagine the knocks a QB's body goes through over the years, much worse!!!!

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I realize you are trying to be funny and make lite of the situation. But I don't feel the title is good. Because other fans come to the board and even media. Then they see the title of the thread. Of course that's not what he is. I just don't think it's great to go into that place. He already gets a lot of unfair criticism. I know you aren't being real with the title. But still. Brock is great.

If a 49er player(or brock family member) came and saw the title what would they think?

I think they would know it for what it is, and laugh. So who the F cares about other fans or media members who can't read it as the cheeky shot at them.

I realize that's what he is doing. But soon it will say MVP Brock Purdy.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Cam Newton was a 1 read and run QB who's career faded just as quickly as his athleticism.

Very similar to Kaepernick in that regard.

Because of the way that Cam actually won NFL MVP and how he was able to stand up to SEA I would have to give Cam the edge. Cam was running QB power on SEA defensive front breaking tackle extending plays and breaking their backs during his peak looking like a man playing amongst boys out there. He was not an elite pocket QB processor but he had his time to shine and he did so he has his right to his opinion wrong as it may be

Cam was no steve young, though. Cam, to me, was a glorified running back playing QB. He can do the Kaepernick read option stuff because it's a one read offense. Either run it or throw it. Simple offense. Cam, no doubt, was a great *athlete* with an Olympian physique. But was he a real QB at the levels of the best? Nawwww.....

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Thats the feeling I got when Joe played in games. If he didn't make any mistakes, we generally would win the game.

Right

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
I watched what Acho said, too. I disagree with just about everything he said.

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. Threw for what was it? 35 TDs and ran for 10 more? (I don't know the exact number). Best WR was Ted Ginn Jr. who was one of the fastest players in the league… only got 747-ish yards? Does that not have anything to do with the doofus throwing the football, or the defense giving them shorter fields?

Cam Newton was an incredible athlete. But, when asked to be a good Quarterback? He was terrible, and washed up by age 30.

When I think Cam Newton, I only remember him pouting on the sidelines with the towel hooded over his head, which he did with great frequency.

Cam values most in other QBs what gave him the most success. His approach to quarterbacking was all about speed and power and being physically dominant. I think he looks at guys like Dak and Purdy being put in the MVP discussion and is genuinely upset that they would be discussed as if they were in the same category as him.

"These dudes can't run over defenders, they can't throw it 50 yards on a line, what is this?"

I don't think he has much appreciation for the aspects of quarterbacking that he was never very good at so its easy to overlook that these these other guys are thriving in ways that he never did or could.

Well said

Yes, in Super Bowl 50 the Broncos D made him a "real QB" and he sucked! 18-41, 265 yds and 1 int. 43% completion. He needs to stop being such a hater. He doesn't appreciate a good QB because he was never one.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Yeah. I understand that people are getting annoyed at these critics, but honestly who gives a f**k what they say. The more upset you get, the more power their opinions will be. It's why I never watch the Skips, the Nick Wrights, and the Stephen A Smiths. These guys think their opinion is gold cause people illicit strong responses to them. Brock is elite and idc what anyone has to say about him.

Agree 💯%, I can stand about only a couple of minutes of the guys you mentioned before I just become bored with their take.

However, that's the nice thing about talk TV, Radio, and Social media - so many opinions! Right, Wrong, and in between. Makes for a livelier discussion for sure. Back in the pre-internet days, letters to the editor was the best you could do. Now you can text David Lombardi (who is a *real* journalist IMO), and David would ask the questions to the coaches and players, and get back to you. Very dynamic stuff, fast, powerful, and lots of fake news, but also a *lot* of good stuff too. There are real journalists out there, vs the heads. Just got to look for them and dig them out of the masses.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Jimmy is under the inexplicable type of qb. He'll give you occasional mistakes during the game, where you can't explain it. You ask him what happened, and he can't explain it either. So you end up with the same type of mistakes every game. He's like a CPU that can handle 3-4 open apps functional at a time. Beyond that, if it crashes, he can't tell you what happened.

When Brock makes a mistake, he knows exactly what happened. His awareness on the field is elite. You can open 6-8 apps at the same time with Brock. On the rare occasion it crashes, he sent the error report to the coaches, get it fixed, you don't see the same mistakes again.

Agree 💯% about processing speeds. And that's basically the best answer to the WTF throws that Jimmy does. Now, having said that, his processor isn't *bad* compared to the BeatHards and Hoyers of the world. Jimmy isn't a bad QB at all. Did a lot of good stuff for this organization.

the media talking heads have to generate content for their shows, that's their job, doesn't matter if it's accurate or not but they have to produce a show on a regular basis to generate interest... IDGAF what they say about Brocky, they will all eventually ride his nuts once the skepticism angle has been well worn out

Originally posted by thl408:
I think Cam is the first former QB to say this kind of stuff about Brock. Up till now, all former NFL QBs have been complimentary of Brock and pointed out the finer aspects of QBing that Brock has been displaying. Cam is the first one that has given a bad hot take version of an analysis.

True, and as with all opinions, there's folks that will agree, and there will be folks that disagree. But the facts are the facts. An 80% winning percentage pretty much sums it up, and that is a fact, not an opinion.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
the media talking heads have to generate content for their shows, that's their job, doesn't matter if it's accurate or not but they have to produce a show on a regular basis to generate interest... IDGAF what they say about Brocky, they will all eventually ride his nuts once the skepticism angle has been well worn out

Maybe. But not Nick WRONG and Steven Ruiz.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:
I think Cam is the first former QB to say this kind of stuff about Brock. Up till now, all former NFL QBs have been complimentary of Brock and pointed out the finer aspects of QBing that Brock has been displaying. Cam is the first one that has given a bad hot take version of an analysis.

True, and as with all opinions, there's folks that will agree, and there will be folks that disagree. But the facts are the facts. An 80% winning percentage pretty much sums it up, and that is a fact, not an opinion.

Cam is still mad at 49ers for this beatdown:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
The irony is people trying to tell Niners fans what a 'game manager is'. We know. That's why we know that Brock ain't that. We invented game managers for eff's sake in the Harbaugh era (no disrespect to Alex but it is what it is).

Agree 💯%, and one *game management* evolutionary advancement over the old run to daylight neanderthal offenses, was that the West Coast offense elevated intelligence vs just the Green Bay sweep left, or right. In other words, intelligence became a factor with the WCO. Being on the same page, knowing the various route options etc... Guys that may not have the athleticism, but have the processing speed became viable players in the NFL world, instead of relegated to being a bench warmer. That went for WR's, RB's, TE's - as well as QBs. I don't think it's a coincidence you have a Fullback from Harvard and a Running back from Stanford on this offense.

i watch these other NFL QBs play now and it makes me realize how good Brocky really is, the way he sees the field and his accuracy and anticipation with his throws

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:


moony talking about the super bowl - their plan was to put the ball into jimmys hands and he said "Kyle kept running it all game but at the end, he started passing for some reason and we took over". Lmao damn you jimmy!!

i didn't realize that ward has played in the championship game every year of his career

sheesh! lolol
not surprised. the fact that niners even made it to the SB with jimmy says a lot about kyle

Now it's like "go ahead, Defenses - put that ball in Brock montanas hands 😘" he will cram it down your throat.

The Colin throw to Crabtree against Sherminator, and the overthrow of Emmanuel Sanders, Brock could make those throws - no problem! Patrick Mahomes has lost to Brady, but Brock has never lost to Brady.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Right! Many teams look for that super athletic freak for a QB. Most of those types fail at the position, though. Creep up and take away the first read, and most are rendered impotent.

Because the way Cam succeeded in the NFL is not applicable to 99% of QBs out there. It's also not great if you're looking for longevity at the position. While it's become common for QBs to play into their late 30s nowadays, Cam was washed at 30 because of his style of play. All those hits and smashing into defenders eventually caught up to him. If Josh Allen doesn't chill then it'll catch up to him as well sooner rather than later.

I kinda can relate to that. When I started training Jiu Jitsu at 38 years old, I could take a beating being pressured, slammed and put into crazy submissions where I would've tap for no one. Now at the age of 47, I've slowed down, don't move as fast and tap almost right away as soon as I get put into an arm-bar, loop choke or baseball bat choke. lol

Imagine the knocks a QB's body goes through over the years, much worse!!!!

I got older and jumping spin kicks are a thing of the past. I have a deviated septum and jaw injuries that are still causing me problems. Playing in the NFL and being a running QB would completely disable dudes. It's a scary tough game for Cam and other running QBs. Steve Young adapted away from being just a running QB hopefully Josh Allen does a well.