QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
The Gottlieb take that anyone with more impressive physical "prototypical QB" traits could just plug & play and match or surpass Brock's consistent performances misses the importance of ELITE processing and anticipation and the role it plays in his game. Brock is obviously physically adequate to play at a high level, but his best trait is his brain, his ability to adapt, and his feel for the game. Guys like Gottlieb seem to think all top level QB's (at least top draft picks) possess that in spades.

People with a muscle for a brain just aren't satisfied if you don't have superior brawn. If you don't have intellect, you don't appreciate it.

I have to defend guys like Gottlieb a little. He's just one of thousands of talking heads and fans that have been conditioned to believe that 40 times and stats are all that count. The NFL has made the combine a weeklong TV event where fans fall in love with big fast guys in shorts. The QBs with the big arm or the ones that run a 4.5 40 or better are hyped while guys like Purdy are barely mentioned. It shouldn't be surprising that it takes awhile for many of them to come around. Some never will. It may take a big performance in the SB before more people start seeing what we see every week.

I don't disagree with that... I mean it took me a while to shed the negative thoughts about Brock regressing or "getting exposed" on the big stage, but twenty plus games into his career is beyond "a while". The next bird to go down after MNF is a serving of Crow down the gullets of the haters and doubters.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

So if the NFL is giving it out to the wrong coaches, where does the bragging part come in, doesn't seem like a very valid honor to me, it's like Geno winning CPOY, that award should have came with an inscription, 'congrats on coming back from sucking ass'
I find a lot of these awards to be poorly thought out

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Watching Purdy's highlights is one thing but what many of his detractors miss are the routine plays. He's doesn't have many bad throws. He gets the ball out quickly and doesn't get sacked a lot even though the O line isn't great at pass blocking. He's a good ball handler as you can see when he hands off to CMC or Deebo. He reads the D and gets the plays off quickly. His passes aren't just completed they're in a spot that allows the receiver to catch the ball easily. He's not fast but his quickness in the pocket allows him to get away from the rush. He's extremely football smart and rarely makes the same mistake twice. He learned Kyle's system very quickly.

All the little things that the national talking heads don't see when they watch the highlights are part of what makes Brock way more than just an average QB. Every QB in the league makes a few highlight reel throws. It's what they do in between those throws that make the difference.

If I hear one more talking head bring up the 49ers "elite offensive line" as a reason for why Purdy should receive less credit, I'm chucking my phone into a brick wall.

Yea. That's the dumbest statement I think I have heard to date. I also don't recall Deebo/Aiyuk being on anyone's top 5 WR tandem list before the season started either.

I haven't heard many people praising the Niners O line for their pass blocking. The highlights always show the left side blowing holes in the defense for CMC and Deebo to run through. Deebo has been highly praised around the league for years although his pass receiving has improved this year after he came into camp in better shape. He's known more for his running after the catch.

But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

Yeah. There is a CLEAR elevation in the productivity of our skill positions:

2020: Let's not talk about 2020, lol.

2021:
Elijah Mitchell: 1100 yards from scrimmage, 6 TD's
Deebo Samuel: 1771 yards from scrimmage, 14 TD's
Brandon Aiyuk: 843 receiving yards, 5 TD's
George Kittle: 930 receiving yards, 6 TD's

TOTAL (RB1, WR1, WR2, TE1): 4644 yards, 31 TD's

2022:

Jeff Wilson (6 starts before trade): 559 yards from scrimmage, 2 TD's

Christian McCaffrey (11 games played): 1210 yards from scrimmage, 10 TD's
Deebo Samuel: 864 yards from scrimmage, 5 TD's
Brandon Aiyuk: 1015 receiving yards, 8 TD's
George Kittle: 765 receiving yards, 11 TD's

TOTAL (RB1, WR1, WR2, TE1): 4413 yards, 36 TD's

2023: in 14 games, 3 more to go.
Christian McCaffrey: 1801 yards from scrimmage, 20 TD's
Deebo Samuel: 959 yards from scrimmage: 11 TD's
Brandon Aiyuk: 1090 receiving yards, 6 TD's
George Kittle: 865 receiving yards, 6 TD's

TOTAL (RB1, WR1, WR2, TE1): 4715 yards, 43 TD's

If my math is right, the group is on pace for 5725 yards, 52 TD's.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

So if the NFL is giving it out to the wrong coaches, where does the bragging part come in, doesn't seem like a very valid honor to me, it's like Geno winning CPOY, that award should have came with an inscription, 'congrats on coming back from sucking ass'
I find a lot of these awards to be poorly thought out

Dude, you are so off base right now. I thought the would demostrate that I was joking but apparently not.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
The Gottlieb take that anyone with more impressive physical "prototypical QB" traits could just plug & play and match or surpass Brock's consistent performances misses the importance of ELITE processing and anticipation and the role it plays in his game. Brock is obviously physically adequate to play at a high level, but his best trait is his brain, his ability to adapt, and his feel for the game. Guys like Gottlieb seem to think all top level QB's (at least top draft picks) possess that in spades.

People with a muscle for a brain just aren't satisfied if you don't have superior brawn. If you don't have intellect, you don't appreciate it.

I have to defend guys like Gottlieb a little. He's just one of thousands of talking heads and fans that have been conditioned to believe that 40 times and stats are all that count. The NFL has made the combine a weeklong TV event where fans fall in love with big fast guys in shorts. The QBs with the big arm or the ones that run a 4.5 40 or better are hyped while guys like Purdy are barely mentioned. It shouldn't be surprising that it takes awhile for many of them to come around. Some never will. It may take a big performance in the SB before more people start seeing what we see every week.

I don't disagree with that... I mean it took me a while to shed the negative thoughts about Brock regressing or "getting exposed" on the big stage, but twenty plus games into his career is beyond "a while". The next bird to go down after MNF is a serving of Crow down the gullets of the haters and doubters.

I assume as a Niners fan you've seen nearly all of Brock's starts. The problem is most people around the country don't. They see a highlight here or there but have no idea how he actually plays the game. They still look at the fact that he's under 6'1"and doesn't run around like Fields or Jackson. In their minds he's still that undersized guy with limited physical skills that got drafted last. That's why I think it may take a few good performances in the playoffs where everyone sees the game before people start believing in him. A few good throws and maybe a game winning TD drive. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true. If he has a bad game in the NFC championship game or SB, the doubters will say "see I told you he wasn't really that good"

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

So if the NFL is giving it out to the wrong coaches, where does the bragging part come in, doesn't seem like a very valid honor to me, it's like Geno winning CPOY, that award should have came with an inscription, 'congrats on coming back from sucking ass'
I find a lot of these awards to be poorly thought out

Dude, you are so off base right now. I thought the would demostrate that I was joking but apparently not.

Are you saying you agree with me? You were joking about caring about the award?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

So if the NFL is giving it out to the wrong coaches, where does the bragging part come in, doesn't seem like a very valid honor to me, it's like Geno winning CPOY, that award should have came with an inscription, 'congrats on coming back from sucking ass'
I find a lot of these awards to be poorly thought out

Dude, you are so off base right now. I thought the would demostrate that I was joking but apparently not.

Are you saying you agree with me? You were joking about caring about the award?

I was joking about using the award as bragging rights. I was dead serious about Kyle deserving the award.

AI is in Purdy's arm! As for the Viking loss, Purdy really was concussed, and I'm wondering if the NFL concussion protocol really is effective. 🤕

While throwing last spring, Purdy wore the same Pulse compression sleeve recovering pitchers use. Far from an ordinary sleeve, this sleeve has an attached workload monitor. It's a smart sleeve, more or less, and it counts throws and measures their intensity—for each individual throw and for the collective impact on any one arm.
[...]
Against the Vikings, for instance, Hewlett acknowledges that Purdy didn't have his best day. He also had a "pretty darn bad concussion" but cleared protocol and stayed in. When Hewlett checked in afterward, he says Purdy responded that he felt like an 8-year-old, like he was "literally losing my mind."
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/18/brock-purdy-best-nfl-story-that-never-ceases-to-get-better?utm_source=reddit.com

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
But now Deebo is 1 of 3 receivers on the team on pace for 1k yards receiving and somehow its everyone else but Brock Purdy who deserves their flowers. Well as far as players anyway. The fact that Kyle isn't a front runner for COY and yet Brock is just a system QB matching/breaking records is pure hypocrisy.

COY is a fake, clown award. It doesn't go to the top coach. It's something like 'we thought you would suck this year, and ya didn't'
it goes to a team that surpassed usually low expectations. All the NFL awards are pretty much fake or stupid. You have a kicker who won MVP, meanwhile no WR ever has including the entire career of guys like Rice or Moss.

Well I like to use those awards as bragging rights against cowboys, seahawks and eagles fans.

I don't think it works that way, I don't think NYG has anything to brag about, if some NYG fan is bragging about COY, as they continually lose QBs cuz they can't block for bleep, that person is a possible clown. Daboll getting exposed this season, last year was a bit of a fluke for NYG,

Daboll didn't deserve it last season. Kyle deserved it than as well. Kyle has probably deserved it 4 of the last 5 seasons tbh.

So if the NFL is giving it out to the wrong coaches, where does the bragging part come in, doesn't seem like a very valid honor to me, it's like Geno winning CPOY, that award should have came with an inscription, 'congrats on coming back from sucking ass'
I find a lot of these awards to be poorly thought out

Dude, you are so off base right now. I thought the would demostrate that I was joking but apparently not.

Are you saying you agree with me? You were joking about caring about the award?

I was joking about using the award as bragging rights. I was dead serious about Kyle deserving the award.

He would deserve it if it's a legit award, designed to measure or honor the top coach. That's not what the honor is.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
The Gottlieb take that anyone with more impressive physical "prototypical QB" traits could just plug & play and match or surpass Brock's consistent performances misses the importance of ELITE processing and anticipation and the role it plays in his game. Brock is obviously physically adequate to play at a high level, but his best trait is his brain, his ability to adapt, and his feel for the game. Guys like Gottlieb seem to think all top level QB's (at least top draft picks) possess that in spades.

People with a muscle for a brain just aren't satisfied if you don't have superior brawn. If you don't have intellect, you don't appreciate it.

I have to defend guys like Gottlieb a little. He's just one of thousands of talking heads and fans that have been conditioned to believe that 40 times and stats are all that count. The NFL has made the combine a weeklong TV event where fans fall in love with big fast guys in shorts. The QBs with the big arm or the ones that run a 4.5 40 or better are hyped while guys like Purdy are barely mentioned. It shouldn't be surprising that it takes awhile for many of them to come around. Some never will. It may take a big performance in the SB before more people start seeing what we see every week.

I don't disagree with that... I mean it took me a while to shed the negative thoughts about Brock regressing or "getting exposed" on the big stage, but twenty plus games into his career is beyond "a while". The next bird to go down after MNF is a serving of Crow down the gullets of the haters and doubters.

I assume as a Niners fan you've seen nearly all of Brock's starts. The problem is most people around the country don't. They see a highlight here or there but have no idea how he actually plays the game. They still look at the fact that he's under 6'1"and doesn't run around like Fields or Jackson. In their minds he's still that undersized guy with limited physical skills that got drafted last. That's why I think it may take a few good performances in the playoffs where everyone sees the game before people start believing in him. A few good throws and maybe a game wiOKnning TD drive. Unfortunately, the reverse is also true. If he has a bad game in the NFC championship game or SB, the doubters will say "see I told you he wasn't really that good"

OK then. If you are going to espouse opinions on the national stage, perhaps you have an obligation to do the research first. It's your job.

Originally posted by Giedi:
AI is in Purdy's arm! As for the Viking loss, Purdy really was concussed, and I'm wondering if the NFL concussion protocol really is effective. 🤕

While throwing last spring, Purdy wore the same Pulse compression sleeve recovering pitchers use. Far from an ordinary sleeve, this sleeve has an attached workload monitor. It's a smart sleeve, more or less, and it counts throws and measures their intensity—for each individual throw and for the collective impact on any one arm.
[...]
Against the Vikings, for instance, Hewlett acknowledges that Purdy didn't have his best day. He also had a "pretty darn bad concussion" but cleared protocol and stayed in. When Hewlett checked in afterward, he says Purdy responded that he felt like an 8-year-old, like he was "literally losing my mind."
https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/12/18/brock-purdy-best-nfl-story-that-never-ceases-to-get-better?utm_source=reddit.com

Yup. Been there before. Got concussed from the scope on my rifle during recoil. Smacked me right in the bridge area of my eyebrow. Thought I was fine the first few hours afterwards but after looking back, I know for sure that I wasn't okay. But couldn't convince me otherwise at the time.