QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
I feel like a lot of fans (not just 49er fans) realize how important it is to throw a "catchable ball". Just watching drew lock and darnold these last few games, reminds me of kap. Just Lazer beams - it's like they know how to add touch or take some heat off.

I've always equated that to anticipation and processing - if you can see things before they happen and understand the pace the guys are going, it's easier to take some off and get it there on time still. I feel like guys like darnold and lock see and beam it. They aren't anticipating anything.

jimmy threw catchable balls, to the other team a lot of times

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Lamar has attempted more passes than Purdy

Lamar's WR's have had more separation than Purdy's WR's

Purdy dominates Jackson in every passing stat

GTFOH with the Lamar MVP over Purdy talk #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/lHxwrTdEC0

— jgrover1533 (@jgrover1533) December 20, 2023

weird. I said this yesterday on here and some random dipsh!t tried to tell me otherwise. Lol sometimes I wondering if I'm talking 49ers with 12 year olds.

Dude... I taught you how read the graph. A tweet doesnt change the fact that it says they both throw to open WRs @ about a 65% rate. They are virtually deadlocked there on this chart... and the amount of separation WRs get on average is strictly a WR stat ( on a chart that doesnt even list the units or the rationale, btw).

So no...u arent allowed to make up your own facts on the fly (talking about how it shows he's throwing into tight coverage,...lol)...and yes...High School is important.

Lol so throwing to guys that are covered better doesn't mean you're throwing dimes? Separation doesn't matter? Lmao

the other chart clearly showed that since the bye (for us) that's Brock's average wr sep was league average and Lamar's lead the league by far.

then you started crying about something and only god knows what. Lol I'm surprised you haven't deleted anything from my posts and then made asinine comments yet. First time for everything.

The chart doesnt at all say or compare the success they are having in throwing to guys that are covered. And we weren't discussing "since the bye"....we were discussing the "season-long" MVP race. That's the only reason Lamar's name has been mentioned so much on here lately.

You read it wrong. They are tied on this chart (that's actually quite random and not even factual proof btw) on the % of throws to open WRs. Let it go dude. Bringing it up a couple days later doesn't suddenly change what a graph explicity says:



I mean we come here to exchange information and not cheerlead. U could've simply said thank you for pointing out to you what it actually says, right? Why the heartbreak?

But great solution if you take those that fact-check on a message board to heart: Don't make stuff up or definitively say stuff you aren't sure about?!

#ProblemSolved

I like what Peter King said recently, "What exactly is there to criticize?"

If you say, threw Mahomes... Burrow... Peyton Manning in his prime... into this offense... would it really look that much different? Honestly, I don't. If anything, certain QB's like Josh Allen, may not be able to make the plays that Purdy makes. The only viable critique that I can think of is, JT O'Sullivan pointing out that Purdy hasn't consistently attempted/hit the DEEP corner throw to the pylon. And even still... on those plays, Purdy still hits a good intermediate route.

When you think about it, Brock Purdy is the perfect fit for our personnel. We don't have a Julio Jones, where it'd be nice to pair him with a QB that can abuse cornerbacks with a backshoulder throw to the sidelines. We don't have a Randy Moss, where you can torch defenses with deep posts and fades.

We have CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle... Physical catch and run guys. This collection of guys, the best QB and scheme is one that will get the ball to them accurately, in space, where they can catch the ball and run with it. To do anything outside of that would be an improper usage of our personnel. With his elite-level anticipation and timing, I don't think there's many current QB's who can do what he does.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Lamar has attempted more passes than Purdy

Lamar's WR's have had more separation than Purdy's WR's

Purdy dominates Jackson in every passing stat

GTFOH with the Lamar MVP over Purdy talk #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/lHxwrTdEC0

— jgrover1533 (@jgrover1533) December 20, 2023

weird. I said this yesterday on here and some random dipsh!t tried to tell me otherwise. Lol sometimes I wondering if I'm talking 49ers with 12 year olds.

Dude... I taught you how read the graph. A tweet doesnt change the fact that it says they both throw to open WRs @ about a 65% rate. They are virtually deadlocked there on this chart... and the amount of separation WRs get on average is strictly a WR stat ( on a chart that doesnt even list the units or the rationale, btw).

So no...u arent allowed to make up your own facts on the fly (talking about how it shows he's throwing into tight coverage,...lol)...and yes...High School is important.

Maybe I am reading your post wrong. But separation isn't strictly a WR stat. Separation can be created by a blown coverage, the perfect play call and even because the QB moved defenders with his eyes and threw the ball with good anticipation.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Maybe I am reading your post wrong. But separation isn't strictly a WR stat. Separation can be created by a blown coverage, the perfect play call and even because the QB moved defenders with his eyes and threw the ball with good anticipation.

The chart says "Average WR separation" on the other axis. It doesn't at all say anything else (per catch? per route ran?)
And it doesn't show the measurement increments (feet? yards? %? what?)

But taking exactly what it says @ face value....if 4 WRs on a play are totaled @ 6 yards of separation,...that is a WR stat. It makes no inference @ all to the blocking, the time length of the play, where the QB threw the ball, et. al.

Even the other axis says %,...but then shows the results in decimal form. It's just badly crafted to begin with so why even argue about it? And most certainly dont try to pass it off as proof of exactly the opposite of what it says, like tankle tried to do.

If you know the difference between .028 and .038 when it comes to "average WR separation" and what we can take from it then by all means,...please share it so we can discuss it.

Aside from that,...someone said something about it insanely false,....it was corrected....show's over.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This is actually unreal. I actually think the Montana comparisons are legitimate. Nothing career retrospective-wise, but there are clear similarities. https://t.co/eCRFve6MkT

— David Liechty (@BackcountryFam) December 21, 2023

Thought that look familiar from Brock last year...

I'm debating - is he the second comming of Joe or Tom?

I'd say Joe. That roll out mobility wasn't in Brady's tool box.

Good point about Tom not being as mobile as Joe and Brock!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This is actually unreal. I actually think the Montana comparisons are legitimate. Nothing career retrospective-wise, but there are clear similarities. https://t.co/eCRFve6MkT

— David Liechty (@BackcountryFam) December 21, 2023

Thought that look familiar from Brock last year...

I'm debating - is he the second comming of Joe or Tom?

I'd say Joe. That roll out mobility wasn't in Brady's tool box.

Good point about Tom not being as mobile as Joe and Brock!

Lol Brady and manning have to be some of the most immobile QBs of all time. They had great pocket presence though - they did a great job of moving around and avoiding defenders in the pocket.

brock reminds me of a stubbier montana, in regards to his play style. The accuracy, calmness, quick but not fast. Which to me, are ideal traits for a qb to have.

obviously everyone would like their qb to be able to move that Lamar or Vick but they're the exception. I'm also not a fan of my qb taking hits. So I prefer the being quick and buying time to make throws downfield. Running for a first down every once in a while (without taking hits). I'll also take the accuracy/touch over an arm like Kaps - where it's a fireball all the time.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This is actually unreal. I actually think the Montana comparisons are legitimate. Nothing career retrospective-wise, but there are clear similarities. https://t.co/eCRFve6MkT

— David Liechty (@BackcountryFam) December 21, 2023

Thought that look familiar from Brock last year...

I'm debating - is he the second comming of Joe or Tom?

I'd say Joe. That roll out mobility wasn't in Brady's tool box.

Good point about Tom not being as mobile as Joe and Brock!

Oh man why they gotta do stuff like that?
Tom was a bit rigid wasn't he?

Brock Montana

Blah Blah Blah

Last week the chatter was about how Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott were neck and neck for the MVP!
This week the chatter is about how Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are neck and neck for the MVP!

Such disrespect from the national media. Who are the national folks going to annoint next week after the 49ers blow the Ravens out of Levi's Stadium?

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Blah Blah Blah

Last week the chatter was about how Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott were neck and neck for the MVP!
This week the chatter is about how Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are neck and neck for the MVP!

Such disrespect from the national media. Who are the national folks going to annoint next week after the 49ers blow the Ravens out of Levi's Stadium?

Brock will be battling Howell for the MVP next week

Joe & Purdy split screen feels

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Blah Blah Blah

Last week the chatter was about how Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott were neck and neck for the MVP!
This week the chatter is about how Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are neck and neck for the MVP!

Such disrespect from the national media. Who are the national folks going to annoint next week after the 49ers blow the Ravens out of Levi's Stadium?

Brock will be battling Howell for the MVP next week

i was thinking tua or josh allen but that made me laugh

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Blah Blah Blah

Last week the chatter was about how Brock Purdy and Dak Prescott were neck and neck for the MVP!
This week the chatter is about how Brock Purdy and Lamar Jackson are neck and neck for the MVP!

Such disrespect from the national media. Who are the national folks going to annoint next week after the 49ers blow the Ravens out of Levi's Stadium?

Brock will be battling Howell for the MVP next week

i was thinking tua or josh allen but that made me laugh

If media move on from Lamar, it would be Tua. Especially if Miami beat Dallas.

Mike Greenberg already said Josh Allen worth MVP despite all the TO. Basically, if the girlfriend cheated on him all through the week, but if she spend the weekend with him, it's worth MVP.

There's definitely similarities between Montana and Purdy when it comes to their style. What separates them now is legacy. Brock doesn't have the come back reputation that Joe had. He may eventually develop one but he has a long ways to go before he catches Joe. Same for NFC and SB titles. Given the parity in the league now Brock may never be able to win 4 SBs let alone throw 11 TDs with no INTs.

Style yes. Legacy. Probably hard to ever equal Joe. Even if Brock wins 4 SBs it won't be the same because Joe was the first. He and Walsh changed the face of a franchise that was playing 2nd fiddle to the Raiders back then. It was a magical time for the original SF major sports franchise.

In more realistic QB ranks, BP is #1, this is NFL.com:

Purdy continues to do Purdy things. He's an unflappable quarterback who plays with the conviction typical of a 10-year veteran, not a second-year player. His poise was evident throughout Sunday's game, including on a first-half completion to George Kittle. With a free rusher bearing down hon him, remained composed, located the vacated area in the middle of the field and delivered a strike to his tight end. He operated Kyle Shanahan's offense with controlled precision, lighting up Arizona's defense with a consistent combination of throws under pressure and quick passes to receivers, who found soft spots in zone coverage. Purdy had another great day, using the full complement of San Francisco's arsenal to his advantage. It's a rather innocuous summary because he's so steady.