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Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Silky:
When we were down a couple scores I thought wow what a great opportunity for Brock to show he can come back and win. What a great opportunity for the team to prove they can win from behind and not rely on 2 TD leads.

But yet here we are again. Why can't this team and Brock take one on the chin, get up and respond? A playoff team/teams will hit us in the chin again. It will happen. I'm seriously worried we can't win from behind.

That's because we can't.

Shanahan record says we can't.

They actually have won 1 game from behind in the 4th. Packers divisional round 2021

Championship!

🙄

Pretty crazy to have a supposed brilliant coach who can't win when behind, as a rule

I mean not many HCs are coming back from 21 down. Let alone the cherry picking down by 8+ in the 4th stat that gets tossed around.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Get this man a good line and he will be fine long-term. Seriously need to overhaul the C and the right-side of that line going into the next season.

That's not going to happen.

We'll probably try to keep a high quality LT, but everyone else will be plug and play. We're 11-4 with a trash line and I can't imagine Shanny/Lynch see a reason to change.

The upcoming draft is supposed to be strong for O linemen. The Niners are set at nearly every other position and they have 12 draft picks. 1,2. 3 (3) ,4(2) 5(2) . Nine picks in the first 5 rounds assuming they don't trade up which is likely. Considering Trent's age and the poor performance of the right side of the line, I'll be shocked if they don't draft at least 3 O linemen.

They can upgrade the line in one draft if (big if) they draft well; think SF 2010 with Davis and Iupati, or Seattle last year with Cross and Lucas. They need to commit two, at least, early picks to the O line, and let them compete for the starting jobs. I agree with you, draft at least 3, but two early.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The upcoming draft is supposed to be strong for O linemen. The Niners are set at nearly every other position and they have 12 draft picks. 1,2. 3 (3) ,4(2) 5(2) . Nine picks in the first 5 rounds assuming they don't trade up which is likely. Considering Trent's age and the poor performance of the right side of the line, I'll be shocked if they don't draft at least 3 O linemen.

Oh I agree, the OL in the upcoming draft is super strong. They don't have a lot of invested cash along the OL, so I don't see how they don't attack that spot.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Get this man a good line and he will be fine long-term. Seriously need to overhaul the C and the right-side of that line going into the next season.

That's not going to happen.

We'll probably try to keep a high quality LT, but everyone else will be plug and play. We're 11-4 with a trash line and I can't imagine Shanny/Lynch see a reason to change.

The upcoming draft is supposed to be strong for O linemen. The Niners are set at nearly every other position and they have 12 draft picks. 1,2. 3 (3) ,4(2) 5(2) . Nine picks in the first 5 rounds assuming they don't trade up which is likely. Considering Trent's age and the poor performance of the right side of the line, I'll be shocked if they don't draft at least 3 O linemen.

I want to believe you. I want to believe you so badly!

He gave me a chubby but I'll believe it when I see it.

I know they haven't drafted a lot of O linemen in the early rounds with a couple of exceptions but what do you think they would draft? They know Trtent isn't going to be playing much longer so they need to find his replacement. They can't expect another team to give u a talent like him in a trade. They also see the weakness on the right side. Look at CMC's runs to the left vs runs to the right. That doesn't even consider the pressure that comes in the pass rush from the right side.

They sure aren't going to draft a WR or RB really high unless some great talent somehow slips down to them. Te only other thing I can see them really needing is a good cover corner. You can never have too many of them. They have enough picks that they can afford to pick 3 O linemen and still fill in some spots for backup positions.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Silky:
When we were down a couple scores I thought wow what a great opportunity for Brock to show he can come back and win. What a great opportunity for the team to prove they can win from behind and not rely on 2 TD leads.

But yet here we are again. Why can't this team and Brock take one on the chin, get up and respond? A playoff team/teams will hit us in the chin again. It will happen. I'm seriously worried we can't win from behind.

That's because we can't.

Shanahan record says we can't.

They actually have won 1 game from behind in the 4th. Packers divisional round 2021

Championship!

🙄

Pretty crazy to have a supposed brilliant coach who can't win when behind, as a rule

I mean not many HCs are coming back from 21 down. Let alone the cherry picking down by 8+ in the 4th stat that gets tossed around.

That's not really cherry picking. What that stat means is if they trail by one TD or more they haven't been able to win. It's easy to drive down for a winning FG. We see several teams do it every week. Getting into the end zone once you reach the red zone is different. The fact that they're the only team since 2017 that hasn't done that is disturbing.

One thing we do need to consider is the Niners have been good and won a lot of games in that time. They haven't trailed very often in the 4th quarter so they haven't had as many chances as some teams.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Silky:
When we were down a couple scores I thought wow what a great opportunity for Brock to show he can come back and win. What a great opportunity for the team to prove they can win from behind and not rely on 2 TD leads.

But yet here we are again. Why can't this team and Brock take one on the chin, get up and respond? A playoff team/teams will hit us in the chin again. It will happen. I'm seriously worried we can't win from behind.

That's because we can't.

Shanahan record says we can't.

They actually have won 1 game from behind in the 4th. Packers divisional round 2021

Championship!

🙄

Pretty crazy to have a supposed brilliant coach who can't win when behind, as a rule

I mean not many HCs are coming back from 21 down. Let alone the cherry picking down by 8+ in the 4th stat that gets tossed around.

That's not really cherry picking. What that stat means is if they trail by one TD or more they haven't been able to win. It's easy to drive down for a winning FG. We see several teams do it every week. Getting into the end zone once you reach the red zone is different. The fact that they're the only team since 2017 that hasn't done that is disturbing.

One thing we do need to consider is the Niners have been good and won a lot of games in that time. They haven't trailed very often in the 4th quarter so they haven't had as many chances as some teams.

I wanna know what that stat is if you only count years where our roster wasn't complete trash (2017 and 2018) and when our team wasn't completely injured (2020). We got blown out a lot those years.
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Can't believe he pissed away the MVP in one outing. Even a 1 or 2 INT game would have been ok. Instead he went all in with 4 INTs.

now Lamar is going to win it it with a subpar season
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Oh I agree, the OL in the upcoming draft is super strong. They don't have a lot of invested cash along the OL, so I don't see how they don't attack that spot.

At tackle it is. Gonna have to be smart in the IOL.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Can't believe he pissed away the MVP in one outing. Even a 1 or 2 INT game would have been ok. Instead he went all in with 4 INTs.

now Lamar is going to win it it with a subpar season

Who cares, that's not the trophy we are worried about.
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Can't believe he pissed away the MVP in one outing. Even a 1 or 2 INT game would have been ok. Instead he went all in with 4 INTs.

now Lamar is going to win it it with a subpar season

f**k the MVP, Lamar Jackson won the MVP in 2019, what did he do after he won it??

AGAIN f**k THE MVP AWARD!!!!!
Originally posted by socal1632:
Pretty crazy to have a supposed brilliant coach who can't win when behind, as a rule

can't win from behind by design, we rank dead last in pass attempts, with an emphasis on run blocking up front, and even blocking out wide. all that flies out the window, or goes up in smoke, once we trail 2-3 scores in the second half.
Not too worried about Purdy. People just need to accept the fact that he will have some bad games. This won't be the last one. But he will also have some amazing games as well. He's still on pace to have the best season a Niner QB has had in over 2 decades and helped lead this team to a potential one seed and home field advantage.

If he's doing this in year 3-4 then it's a problem but he's on his 20th start and has had what…? 3 bad games and 15 spectacular games and 1-2 mid games..? lol.

The one concern I may have is this inability to come back. But this also seems to be a Shanahan problem as well so I'm not sure what the issue is. Just seems like when this team gets behind early they tend to just implode. That's more concerning than anything else. They're either REALLY good or REALLY bad which is strange.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Not too worried about Purdy. People just need to accept the fact that he will have some bad games. This won't be the last one. But he will also have some amazing games as well. He's still on pace to have the best season a Niner QB has had in over 2 decades and helped lead this team to a potential one seed and home field advantage.

If he's doing this in year 3-4 then it's a problem but he's on his 20th start and has had what…? 3 bad games and 15 spectacular games and 1-2 mid games..? lol.

The one concern I may have is this inability to come back. But this also seems to be a Shanahan problem as well so I'm not sure what the issue is. Just seems like when this team gets behind early they tend to just implode. That's more concerning than anything else. They're either REALLY good or REALLY bad which is strange.

No one comes back from 4 picks and a 21 point deficit.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Not too worried about Purdy. People just need to accept the fact that he will have some bad games. This won't be the last one. But he will also have some amazing games as well. He's still on pace to have the best season a Niner QB has had in over 2 decades and helped lead this team to a potential one seed and home field advantage.

If he's doing this in year 3-4 then it's a problem but he's on his 20th start and has had what…? 3 bad games and 15 spectacular games and 1-2 mid games..? lol.

The one concern I may have is this inability to come back. But this also seems to be a Shanahan problem as well so I'm not sure what the issue is. Just seems like when this team gets behind early they tend to just implode. That's more concerning than anything else. They're either REALLY good or REALLY bad which is strange.

It's by design, we have built it very heavy around the run, and when the score is out of hand, our strength flies out the window. No team in football passes less than us. The drop back pass game is not our bag, and that's what the game reduces to when down a ton.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Not too worried about Purdy. People just need to accept the fact that he will have some bad games. This won't be the last one. But he will also have some amazing games as well. He's still on pace to have the best season a Niner QB has had in over 2 decades and helped lead this team to a potential one seed and home field advantage.

If he's doing this in year 3-4 then it's a problem but he's on his 20th start and has had what…? 3 bad games and 15 spectacular games and 1-2 mid games..? lol.

The one concern I may have is this inability to come back. But this also seems to be a Shanahan problem as well so I'm not sure what the issue is. Just seems like when this team gets behind early they tend to just implode. That's more concerning than anything else. They're either REALLY good or REALLY bad which is strange.

I think Purdy pointed that out last night, he tries to do too much when they are down and needs to play with what's in front of him, rather than forcing it.
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