QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Here you go. Green Bay was very, very good https://t.co/B3LB80gcJJ pic.twitter.com/fcXWJDltEW

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 23, 2024

Green Bay was a different team than when they started.

Just about everyone underestimated GB. After the slow start, many ignored them. Even when they beat Dallas, the narrative was "Dallas just choked again."

The truth was, GB was the better team...and they had been getting steadily better all season long. I still think they would have beaten Detroit had they gotten that far. Lombardi's chart is right on.

I under estimated them for sure but I also thought the rain would be way lighter. Without the rain, I think we win much easier.

they beat the chiefs, lions, cowboys, rams (2 times) down the stretch. Once they got going, they were as good as anyone. Nearly beat us. So I think In hindsight - we will realize that they were the tough test nfc team to play this year besides us.

Not to nit-pick but I don't think the rain was that big of a factor. Love had some balls slip off his hands as well. BP wasn't the only one having trouble.

To me, the biggest factor for the 49ers was the inability to block Kenny Clark (320 pounds) and TJ Slaton (330 pounds). They owned the middle of the LOS and consistently muddied the front of the pocket.

Last night I rewatched the game, (Without the adrenalin surge, it was quite pleasant. ) Purdy missed on four throws where he had a clean pocket. A couple of those appeared to be the result of a wet ball. On five other throws, I noted specifically, that one or the other of those GB monsters had a hand in Purdy's face and forced him to throw it around their hands or off his back foot. Brendel and Burford (when he was in) could not control the middle of the LOS. Notably, on the final drive, Feliciano was at RG and Purdy was able to play the way we are used to seeing him play.

In the second half of your comment, GB did well because their lines played very well.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I have been around football now for 44 years, as a player, and currently as a coach/scout/recruiter. I have never seen this level of unfair, insanely biased criticism of a player in my life. I mean, every daytime sports show - First Take, Undisputed, Fist Take, Colin, NFL Live, Speak, ALL OF THEM - are holding Brock to a standard that's painfully obvious they are struggling to maintain consistency when critiquing other QB's.

For a while I thought that this unfair criticism would even out, especially once he got a comeback win with missing talent around him. Quite the contrary, the criticism has gotten worse. Now I'm thoroughly convinced that not even a SB win quiet these people. Watching these sports shows I really feel that that GB win really pissed some people off, that they really wanted him to loose. Every time the 9ers win they strain their comprehension to explain how Brock wasn't the reason for win. In the GB game, it was CLEAR that Brock was the reason why we won. But listening to the national sports media trip over themselves praise Jordan Love you'd think GB won the game. Not one roasted Jordan Love for throwing 2 INT's. Not one mentioned that Brock had much better stats than Love. Can you imagine the excoriation of Brock had he thrown 2 INT's, one that lost them the game? Whole segments would have been on that alone. The talking points would write themselves.

It's clear to me that the sports media will not let Brock live down "Mr. Irrelevant". They just can't get past it no matter how many games he wins. I think the mental thinking goes something like this: "Mr. Irrelevant don't deserve to win, much less win the SB, especially over more established QG's. He's Mr. Irrelevant for a reason. It's not fare for him to be in this position when other, more deserving QB's have been in the league longer and drafted much higher with far more talent that we'd prefer to have this spot."

I just wish they be man enough and come out and say what they REALLY feel about Brock and stop presenting the world with these floating goalposts no other QB is expected hit.

You gotta separate the wheat from the chaff. Sad to say, a lot of "sports" shows, aren't. GMF or First Take, Undisputed, these are not football shows. They will rarely if ever get into the nuts and bolts of football strategy. It's an entertainment product. They offer very shallow hot takes, and nothing more. Their entire intent is usually to rile up the viewer. There's an old stat that ppl who hated Howard Stern, actually listen to him a lot more. Ppl feed on outrage. Go to the JTO, the JD, the Kurt Warner's the Baldy Breakdowns, or Cosell for examples of real football convo and realize how they regard Brock.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think we know now why McCloud got benched in favor of Conley for what seemed like the rest of the game after that.

Starting to feel like they may not bring Ray Ray back.

They need more receivers. It can't just be Deebo, Aiyuk , Jennings and then they're screwed. They have to add at least a couple reliable guys in the offseason.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I have been around football now for 44 years, as a player, and currently as a coach/scout/recruiter. I have never seen this level of unfair, insanely biased criticism of a player in my life. I mean, every daytime sports show - First Take, Undisputed, Fist Take, Colin, NFL Live, Speak, ALL OF THEM - are holding Brock to a standard that's painfully obvious they are struggling to maintain consistency when critiquing other QB's.

For a while I thought that this unfair criticism would even out, especially once he got a comeback win with missing talent around him. Quite the contrary, the criticism has gotten worse. Now I'm thoroughly convinced that not even a SB win quiet these people. Watching these sports shows I really feel that that GB win really pissed some people off, that they really wanted him to loose. Every time the 9ers win they strain their comprehension to explain how Brock wasn't the reason for win. In the GB game, it was CLEAR that Brock was the reason why we won. But listening to the national sports media trip over themselves praise Jordan Love you'd think GB won the game. Not one roasted Jordan Love for throwing 2 INT's. Not one mentioned that Brock had much better stats than Love. Can you imagine the excoriation of Brock had he thrown 2 INT's, one that lost them the game? Whole segments would have been on that alone. The talking points would write themselves.

It's clear to me that the sports media will not let Brock live down "Mr. Irrelevant". They just can't get past it no matter how many games he wins. I think the mental thinking goes something like this: "Mr. Irrelevant don't deserve to win, much less win the SB, especially over more established QG's. He's Mr. Irrelevant for a reason. It's not fare for him to be in this position when other, more deserving QB's have been in the league longer and drafted much higher with far more talent that we'd prefer to have this spot."

I just wish they be man enough and come out and say what they REALLY feel about Brock and stop presenting the world with these floating goalposts no other QB is expected hit.

A lot of it is his draft position, but I think a lot of it also is these morons remember what we did with Montana and Young, and don't want to see a repeat of that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
when did we start using Riddicks words as gospel or have any value ?

dude has been hating us since we didn't hire him as GM

Did you not listen/read to any of that? He was literally defending Brock

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Here you go. Green Bay was very, very good https://t.co/B3LB80gcJJ pic.twitter.com/fcXWJDltEW

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 23, 2024

Green Bay was a different team than when they started.

Just about everyone underestimated GB. After the slow start, many ignored them. Even when they beat Dallas, the narrative was "Dallas just choked again."

The truth was, GB was the better team...and they had been getting steadily better all season long. I still think they would have beaten Detroit had they gotten that far. Lombardi's chart is right on.

I under estimated them for sure but I also thought the rain would be way lighter. Without the rain, I think we win much easier.

they beat the chiefs, lions, cowboys, rams (2 times) down the stretch. Once they got going, they were as good as anyone. Nearly beat us. So I think In hindsight - we will realize that they were the tough test nfc team to play this year besides us.

Not to nit-pick but I don't think the rain was that big of a factor. Love had some balls slip off his hands as well. BP wasn't the only one having trouble.

To me, the biggest factor for the 49ers was the inability to block Kenny Clark (320 pounds) and TJ Slaton (330 pounds). They owned the middle of the LOS and consistently muddied the front of the pocket.

Last night I rewatched the game, (Without the adrenalin surge, it was quite pleasant. ) Purdy missed on four throws where he had a clean pocket. A couple of those appeared to be the result of a wet ball. On five other throws, I noted specifically, that one or the other of those GB monsters had a hand in Purdy's face and forced him to throw it around their hands or off his back foot. Brendel and Burford (when he was in) could not control the middle of the LOS. Notably, on the final drive, Feliciano was at RG and Purdy was able to play the way we are used to seeing him play.

In the second half of your comment, GB did well because their lines played very well.

You nailed it. It's so much more magnified and easier to see in the playoffs too.

Originally posted by dj43:
Unless the film quality is just bad, it's not Shanahan. He had on a red shell and black hat. I just checked the end of the game and that is what he was wearing.

More likely Brian Griese.

In any case, Shanahan confirmed Ray Ray was supposed to turn inside and Brock threw the pass on time. Instead, Ray Ray went off-schedule.

Yeah, it's not Kyle. He was wearing a red hoodie.
But clearly, he didn't like this play because Ray Ray was on the bench at the end of the game and Chris Conley was the WR3.
And the same Chris Conley had that crucial reception for a first down on the last drive.
IIRC, it was the first reception of Chris Conley with Purdy as QB.

Originally posted by tankle104:

This might be the most animated I've seen Kyle Shanahan on the sideline

McCloud apparently didn't run the correct route which forced a big incompletion at a crucial moment pic.twitter.com/0ZKNupep3y

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) January 23, 2024

That's not kyle

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by dj43:
Unless the film quality is just bad, it's not Shanahan. He had on a red shell and black hat. I just checked the end of the game and that is what he was wearing.

More likely Brian Griese.

In any case, Shanahan confirmed Ray Ray was supposed to turn inside and Brock threw the pass on time. Instead, Ray Ray went off-schedule.

Yeah, it's not Kyle. He was wearing a red hoodie.
But clearly, he didn't like this play because Ray Ray was on the bench at the end of the game and Chris Conley was the WR3.
And the same Chris Conley had that crucial reception for a first down on the last drive.
IIRC, it was the first reception of Chris Conley with Purdy as QB.

Ray Ray was on the field for the Conley catch. I can see why Brock was looking Conley's way tho.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Here you go. Green Bay was very, very good https://t.co/B3LB80gcJJ pic.twitter.com/fcXWJDltEW

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) January 23, 2024

Green Bay was a different team than when they started.

Just about everyone underestimated GB. After the slow start, many ignored them. Even when they beat Dallas, the narrative was "Dallas just choked again."

The truth was, GB was the better team...and they had been getting steadily better all season long. I still think they would have beaten Detroit had they gotten that far. Lombardi's chart is right on.

I under estimated them for sure but I also thought the rain would be way lighter. Without the rain, I think we win much easier.

they beat the chiefs, lions, cowboys, rams (2 times) down the stretch. Once they got going, they were as good as anyone. Nearly beat us. So I think In hindsight - we will realize that they were the tough test nfc team to play this year besides us.

Not to nit-pick but I don't think the rain was that big of a factor. Love had some balls slip off his hands as well. BP wasn't the only one having trouble.

To me, the biggest factor for the 49ers was the inability to block Kenny Clark (320 pounds) and TJ Slaton (330 pounds). They owned the middle of the LOS and consistently muddied the front of the pocket.

Last night I rewatched the game, (Without the adrenalin surge, it was quite pleasant. ) Purdy missed on four throws where he had a clean pocket. A couple of those appeared to be the result of a wet ball. On five other throws, I noted specifically, that one or the other of those GB monsters had a hand in Purdy's face and forced him to throw it around their hands or off his back foot. Brendel and Burford (when he was in) could not control the middle of the LOS. Notably, on the final drive, Feliciano was at RG and Purdy was able to play the way we are used to seeing him play.

In the second half of your comment, GB did well because their lines played very well.

You nailed it. It's so much more magnified and easier to see in the playoffs too.

I think our entire team plays worse in the rain, not just Brock. Rain is a great equalizer. We are a better team than the packers but jt made us more even cause of the weather. Our defense was slipping, which is really the only way they scored. Our O line was getting abused (besides trent). Brock was slippin. I just hate the rain and it made us worse, which helped even the playing field between us and the pack.

you'll see it this week. We will be shakin and moving again. Dominating on offense.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I have been around football now for 44 years, as a player, and currently as a coach/scout/recruiter. I have never seen this level of unfair, insanely biased criticism of a player in my life. I mean, every daytime sports show - First Take, Undisputed, Fist Take, Colin, NFL Live, Speak, ALL OF THEM - are holding Brock to a standard that's painfully obvious they are struggling to maintain consistency when critiquing other QB's.

For a while I thought that this unfair criticism would even out, especially once he got a comeback win with missing talent around him. Quite the contrary, the criticism has gotten worse. Now I'm thoroughly convinced that not even a SB win quiet these people. Watching these sports shows I really feel that that GB win really pissed some people off, that they really wanted him to loose. Every time the 9ers win they strain their comprehension to explain how Brock wasn't the reason for win. In the GB game, it was CLEAR that Brock was the reason why we won. But listening to the national sports media trip over themselves praise Jordan Love you'd think GB won the game. Not one roasted Jordan Love for throwing 2 INT's. Not one mentioned that Brock had much better stats than Love. Can you imagine the excoriation of Brock had he thrown 2 INT's, one that lost them the game? Whole segments would have been on that alone. The talking points would write themselves.

It's clear to me that the sports media will not let Brock live down "Mr. Irrelevant". They just can't get past it no matter how many games he wins. I think the mental thinking goes something like this: "Mr. Irrelevant don't deserve to win, much less win the SB, especially over more established QG's. He's Mr. Irrelevant for a reason. It's not fare for him to be in this position when other, more deserving QB's have been in the league longer and drafted much higher with far more talent that we'd prefer to have this spot."

I just wish they be man enough and come out and say what they REALLY feel about Brock and stop presenting the world with these floating goalposts no other QB is expected hit.

Well said sir.

im willing to bet purdy balls out and puts up 400 yards on the lions

what da haters gonna say then?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
They need more receivers. It can't just be Deebo, Aiyuk , Jennings and then they're screwed. They have to add at least a couple reliable guys in the offseason.

Agreed. I was fantasizing about them trading for Davante Adams at the deadline. At least add a competent guy or two with upside in reality.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
im willing to bet purdy balls out and puts up 400 yards on the lions

what da haters gonna say then?

I predicted 276 and 4 scores. 400 yds would be a bit alarming. Would imply we are chucking all day and in some sort of insane shootout or trailing. I could be thinking too much about gameflow

I'd be curious in a stat like team record when QB goes for 400.