QB Brock Purdy Thread

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Originally posted by genus49:
You watched Jimmy play right? There were clear differences in how they played the position. That's not even taking into account that Jimmy was a seasoned vet and Brock was in his 2nd season with having to rehab all offseason.

I have no doubt that Brock could perform at a high level regardless of all our weapons if he actually had solid pass pro around him. Seeing him hit Chris Conley and McCloud on big plays in the SB tells me all I need to know about him.

Give him time to find open guys and he's going to move the ball.

Now if we can keep our playmakers around AND get the OL to pass pro better then we're really going to be dangerous.

let's do that!

Yes, and yes. There is no doubt Brock is miles better. Absolute zero doubt. The problem is a lot of Jimmy numbers, such as yards per attempt and other numbers, were extremely high in this offense. So how much of it is Brock and how much of it is the offense.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
You didn't know s**t. Jimmy was good and Brock is way better. Get lost

Jimmy was not good, Brock is definitely way better. I don't know how you can say I didn't know sh*t when I wasnt a fan of Jimmy even in his best years. For example in the 2019 Saints game, which is often cited as one of his best games, he was painfully average to me.

I will ignore your last sentence because of it being some kindergarten-level discourse.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Perhaps, but the gap between him and the second rated passer in categories like YPC, 1st down %, passing TD% is massive. He is miles ahead of the pack in several key categories.

What should be alarming is that Jimmy was also pretty high in a lot of metrics, he led the league in Y/C and NY/A in 2021...but most of us knew what he really was. This offense inflates Brock's numbers, no doubt about it. The question of what would happen if this is a dropback-heavy pass-heavy offense, is still open but imo until CMC and Deebo are gone, this offense wouldnt change its identity drastically.

You didn't know s**t. Jimmy was good and Brock is way better. Get lost

Originally posted by elguapo:
I think he put up those numbers in spite of the pass protection. You did see the games where he escaped so many sacks it was unbelievable, right? When our unit consistently ranks in the bottom five teams, that's a huge issue.

But you are right, we all agree that the line needs to improve. I don't care if we get worse run blocking as long as pass protection Gets better. We will all be happy and we will win at least two more Super Bowls in the next six years.

Yes....the pass protection was sub par.....but I don't think there is any doubt that having a top 3 playcaller/scheme/skilled talent around him plus being in a run-oriented system not only made up for it, it pushed it far beyond it. I think the numbers Purdy put up speak to that. Again, you'd have to think that if Purdy had just average protection, he would've set the all time NFL record for passing efficiency. If he had good + protection.....he'd have several perfect passer rating games.

Lets just turn it around the other way.....what if Purdy had the best pass protecting OL in the NFL last year, and the skill set players/scheme/playcalling was on the same level as the pass protection was, do you think he puts up the same numbers as last year? There is no way that's happening.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by genus49:
You watched Jimmy play right? There were clear differences in how they played the position. That's not even taking into account that Jimmy was a seasoned vet and Brock was in his 2nd season with having to rehab all offseason.

I have no doubt that Brock could perform at a high level regardless of all our weapons if he actually had solid pass pro around him. Seeing him hit Chris Conley and McCloud on big plays in the SB tells me all I need to know about him.

Give him time to find open guys and he's going to move the ball.

Now if we can keep our playmakers around AND get the OL to pass pro better then we're really going to be dangerous.

let's do that!

Yes, and yes. There is no doubt Brock is miles better. Absolute zero doubt. The problem is a lot of Jimmy numbers, such as yards per attempt and other numbers, were extremely high in this offense. So how much of it is Brock and how much of it is the offense.

The scheme itself is good. That is why we hired KS as HC and will always have a decent to good offense.

Jimmy G was able to run the offense efficiently and take it above decent.

Brock had the offense operating at historic levels.

The main trait that separates BP from JG is processing time
BP can get the quick pass out and BP doesn't make bonehead INTs regularly

BP is just smarter, better, faster, stonger, more accurate than the Jimster.

What I am still wondering is what brand of sunglasses Purdy wears, cause those look fly. 🪰

We have GameDay thread, why not draft day thread. You guys slip'n.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Perhaps, but the gap between him and the second rated passer in categories like YPC, 1st down %, passing TD% is massive. He is miles ahead of the pack in several key categories.

What should be alarming is that Jimmy was also pretty high in a lot of metrics, he led the league in Y/C and NY/A in 2021...but most of us knew what he really was. This offense inflates Brock's numbers, no doubt about it. The question of what would happen if this is a dropback-heavy pass-heavy offense, is still open but imo until CMC and Deebo are gone, this offense wouldnt change its identity drastically.

You didn't know s**t. Jimmy was good and Brock is way better. Get lost

90% of us knew what jimmy was.. there's almost 10k pages of it in NFL Talk

Yes he was and is who I have always thought him to be. Garbage. Don't mention his name in the same sentence as Brock. Brock is the real deal.

What improvements are some of you looking to see out of Brock this year?

personally, I don't think there was anything he did "bad" last year but I think he left a lot out there on some plays, but I think that has a lot to do with experience. He's reviewing the film this off season and I think he's going to be a machine out there next year - see the field way better and study the type of defenses that really slowed him down (baltimore & KC).

Originally posted by tankle104:
What improvements are some of you looking to see out of Brock this year?

personally, I don't think there was anything he did "bad" last year but I think he left a lot out there on some plays, but I think that has a lot to do with experience. He's reviewing the film this off season and I think he's going to be a machine out there next year - see the field way better and study the type of defenses that really slowed him down (baltimore & KC).

arm talent, deep ball, and more taking command at the LOS if Lord Shanny allows

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
What improvements are some of you looking to see out of Brock this year?

personally, I don't think there was anything he did "bad" last year but I think he left a lot out there on some plays, but I think that has a lot to do with experience. He's reviewing the film this off season and I think he's going to be a machine out there next year - see the field way better and study the type of defenses that really slowed him down (baltimore & KC).

arm talent, deep ball, and more taking command at the LOS if Lord Shanny allows

There's only so much you can do to improve your arm strength. He improves some during his rehab before last season but he's not going to become Allan or Mahomes. His arm strength is good enough for Kyle's offense that doesn't call many over the top deep plays. They don't have that type of receiver anyway. From what I hear the players say he takes command in the huddle so again I don't know how much he can improve there.

He will learn to recognize defenses quicker so he can improve there. Other than that I think he's already about as good as he can be.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
What improvements are some of you looking to see out of Brock this year?

personally, I don't think there was anything he did "bad" last year but I think he left a lot out there on some plays, but I think that has a lot to do with experience. He's reviewing the film this off season and I think he's going to be a machine out there next year - see the field way better and study the type of defenses that really slowed him down (baltimore & KC).

arm talent, deep ball, and more taking command at the LOS if Lord Shanny allows

There's only so much you can do to improve your arm strength. He improves some during his rehab before last season but he's not going to become Allan or Mahomes. His arm strength is good enough for Kyle's offense that doesn't call many over the top deep plays. They don't have that type of receiver anyway. From what I hear the players say he takes command in the huddle so again I don't know how much he can improve there.

He will learn to recognize defenses quicker so he can improve there. Other than that I think he's already about as good as he can be.

that film it shows he was leaving the downfield plays on the table, it needs to be better you hit those when available and you alter the depth at which the safeties have to play, he's close he just needs to work on it a bit

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
that film it shows he was leaving the downfield plays on the table, it needs to be better you hit those when available and you alter the depth at which the safeties have to play, he's close he just needs to work on it a bit

Recognizing blitzes quicker and taking the deeper shots. Two steps left to take.

He has shown he's capable though of doing both which is such a refreshing change.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

What improvements are some of you looking to see out of Brock this year?

personally, I don't think there was anything he did "bad" last year but I think he left a lot out there on some plays, but I think that has a lot to do with experience. He's reviewing the film this off season and I think he's going to be a machine out there next year - see the field way better and study the type of defenses that really slowed him down (baltimore & KC).

arm talent, deep ball, and more taking command at the LOS if Lord Shanny allows

There's only so much you can do to improve your arm strength. He improves some during his rehab before last season but he's not going to become Allan or Mahomes. His arm strength is good enough for Kyle's offense that doesn't call many over the top deep plays. They don't have that type of receiver anyway. From what I hear the players say he takes command in the huddle so again I don't know how much he can improve there.

He will learn to recognize defenses quicker so he can improve there. Other than that I think he's already about as good as he can be.

that film it shows he was leaving the downfield plays on the table, it needs to be better you hit those when available and you alter the depth at which the safeties have to play, he's close he just needs to work on it a bit

He did well hitting the deeper routes. Compared to Jimmy in this offense he was unbelievable at it, and he had a worse OL than Jimmy.

JTO got a little carried away with the flag route thing. He was getting pissed off and defensive about it. He would literally say he knows it's not totally open, he just wants Brock to throw it……on a play that gained 30 yards lol. That's why JTO sucked