QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
His biggest problem is he couldn't read defenses at a high level. That's the biggest difference with Brock.

Agree. To me Brock is a generational QB (in addition to his accuracy and mobility) he has that processor that is elite. Jimmy was pretty good, but not elite or at Brock's level of processing, for sure.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
What would Purdy be ranked right now if he was drafted #1 overall?

The media doesn't like being wrong, but Purdy has already proved everyone wrong. Give the man his flowers!!

Where do you think he should rank? Feel like this question and answer (at least the one I think is coming) is relevant to the argument in the other thread.

I don't involve myself in rankings, they are all subjective.

Purdy has done everything he has been asked to do and more. He has clearly out performed his contract and his draft status.

Not sure what you are referring to in bold?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
This is the Brock Purdy thread. Back to that.

Yup Brock is Brees, just *Younger!*

He throws touchdowns and wins games.

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To just add also - to me an additional elite characteristic is his superb accuracy. Folks who say he's not elite, doesn't appreciate that aspect of Brock.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I don't involve myself in rankings, they are all subjective.

Purdy has done everything he has been asked to do and more. He has clearly out performed his contract and his draft status.

Not sure what you are referring to in bold?

You asked the question where he would rank if he was drafted number 1 overall? Sounds like you're interested in the rankings on some level.

Obviously he's outperformed his draft status and contract. He did that simply by starting some games and completing passes, lol.

Originally posted by Montana:
Not clicking on anything with Nick not-so-Bright. Hard pass.

Lol BP has worked very hard and not given out like candy.."without some of the best weaponry in the league"..this sounds like the same old tired talking point ppl have brought up..dumb AF one at that.

Cause nobody can find any negative things about Purdy..so ppl just make up the dumbest chit to talk about lol. Don't expect anything. Just enjoy the ride.

Those who find fault with Purdy are just naturally negative. Not saying that's bad, it's just some folks' chosen nature to be pessimist and negative. That's ok, but I'd rather choose the positive. Makes for a happier day.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I don't involve myself in rankings, they are all subjective.

Purdy has done everything he has been asked to do and more. He has clearly out performed his contract and his draft status.

Not sure what you are referring to in bold?

You asked the question where he would rank if he was drafted number 1 overall? Sounds like you're interested in the rankings on some level.

Obviously he's outperformed his draft status and contract. He did that simply by starting some games and completing passes, lol.

I asked the question to those doing the rankings.

Thanks for repeating what I posted, yes he outperformed his contract, thats what I said. Where is there an argument there?

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I asked the question to those doing the rankings.

Thanks for repeating what I posted, yes he outperformed his contract, thats what I said. Where is there an argument there?

I'm not sure why you think there's an argument. I asked you where you think he ranks as the obvious implication in your post is that he's being disrespected because of his draft status.

Why are you afraid to answer a simple question about a football player on a football message board.

I'd have him ranked right around 10th in the league or so.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I asked the question to those doing the rankings.

Thanks for repeating what I posted, yes he outperformed his contract, thats what I said. Where is there an argument there?

I'm not sure why you think there's an argument. I asked you where you think he ranks as the obvious implication in your post is that he's being disrespected because of his draft status.

Why are you afraid to answer a simple question about a football player on a football message board.

I'd have him ranked right around 10th in the league or so.

So he is a top 10 QB in your eyes?

I believe in your position, so why doesn't the national sports media give him his flowers? I think its because they don't like the fact that he has proven everyone wrong.

I don't operate in the world of fear, especially when I am sitting behind my keyboard. Doesn't take a lot of courage to type on a message board. LOL

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I think this year will be the GREATEST SHOW ON GRASS. Like Kurt Warner was the greatest show on turf. There are really lots of weapons. It's his 3rd year. While he was already good at processing. The 3rd year is typically the biggest jump. Especially for a QB. He had 4,280 yards in 16 games. If he plays 17 you are looking at easily 4,500. Maybe a bump for the 3rd year is 4,700 and more TD's. 31 TD's and 11 Interceptions could also be better.

It's not ridiculous with these weapons and adding another in the 1st round to consider this. 4,600 - 4,700 yards. 40 TD's, 12 Interceptions. I think something like that is possible. It will be increasingly difficult for idiots like Nick WRONG to say he's not good. This year he will be solidified as a really excellent young NFL QB. With no questions asked. Assuming he stays healthy. It would help for Trent Williams and Aaron Banks to stay healthy too. The left side especially which is our best side. You need protection and health too.

I agree he will be better than last year and agree that the 3rd year for most QB's is the year of the biggest jump - usually. Definitely Brock and Pearsall are going to be a deadly combination if they get Aiyuk signed too.

But if we want to win the Superbowl I'd rather have our defense be an equal or greater share of the load to the Superbowl. That, of course, means that Brock *may not* break any passing records this year because the defense is so good, he has to call more run plays in the 2nd half because the team is ahead. (Or something like that)

Originally posted by glorydayz:
So he is a top 10 QB in your eyes?

I believe in your position, so why doesn't the national sports media give him his flowers? I think its because they don't like the fact that he has proven everyone wrong.

There are people in media that give him his flowers. There are others that don't. The board tends to highlight the extremes of both sides of the argument when sharing those opinions. Plus it's a 49ers board so 49ers players, at least the good ones, are going to be overrated among the fanbase naturally, and people will be* hypersensitive to contrary arguments.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Even ranking C J Stroud that high after one season playing an easy schedule is a little shaky. I'm not saying he isn't good but I've seen way too many young QBs have a great first season and even 2 great seasons and then just fade. It used to be that they would say you need 3 seasons to evaluate players. Not it seems like it's always in the moment.

I'd be a lot more confident in my assessment of CJ Stroud if I was an avid fan of the Texans and watched his every start. So I'd not even attempt to pigeonhole CJ into a particular rank. What I will say is that CJ is definitely a very good player from what I've seen of him. Up there, possibly, with the top 5 QB's - and Brock.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Even ranking C J Stroud that high after one season playing an easy schedule is a little shaky. I'm not saying he isn't good but I've seen way too many young QBs have a great first season and even 2 great seasons and then just fade. It used to be that they would say you need 3 seasons to evaluate players. Not it seems like it's always in the moment.

I'd be a lot more confident in my assessment of CJ Stroud if I was an avid fan of the Texans and watched his every start. So I'd not even attempt to pigeonhole CJ into a particular rank. What I will say is that CJ is definitely a very good player from what I've seen of him. Up there, possibly, with the top 5 QB's - and Brock.

I agree though, to make CJ so high after one season is a little irrational to me. Like Giedi said, he's a young stud for sure but you need to see consistency (just like it's important to see Brock have another really good season before paying him).

we've seen so many players have 1 or so really good seasons and then fall off. I'm not saying CJ will fall off but I think we need to see how he does this next year before crowning him some great player. Overall, rankings are subjective so they don't really matter.

I personally think Brock is a top 7-8 qb AT WORST. Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
So he is a top 10 QB in your eyes?

I believe in your position, so why doesn't the national sports media give him his flowers? I think its because they don't like the fact that he has proven everyone wrong.

There are people in media that give him his flowers. There are others that don't. The board tends to highlight the extremes of both sides of the argument when sharing those opinions. Plus it's a 49ers board so 49ers players, at least the good ones, are going to be overrated among the fanbase naturally, and people will be* hypersensitive to contrary arguments.

This is true but just because our fan base believes in our players more or overrates our "good players" as you say, doesn't mean it is ok for the sports media to overlook or underrate our players either.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Even ranking C J Stroud that high after one season playing an easy schedule is a little shaky. I'm not saying he isn't good but I've seen way too many young QBs have a great first season and even 2 great seasons and then just fade. It used to be that they would say you need 3 seasons to evaluate players. Not it seems like it's always in the moment.

I'd be a lot more confident in my assessment of CJ Stroud if I was an avid fan of the Texans and watched his every start. So I'd not even attempt to pigeonhole CJ into a particular rank. What I will say is that CJ is definitely a very good player from what I've seen of him. Up there, possibly, with the top 5 QB's - and Brock.

I agree though, to make CJ so high after one season is a little irrational to me. Like Giedi said, he's a young stud for sure but you need to see consistency (just like it's important to see Brock have another really good season before paying him).

we've seen so many players have 1 or so really good seasons and then fall off. I'm not saying CJ will fall off but I think we need to see how he does this next year before crowning him some great player. Overall, rankings are subjective so they don't really matter.

I personally think Brock is a top 7-8 qb AT WORST. Just my opinion.

Agree 💯%, no argument there. I think he can be as good as 2nd - if this year he takes a *normal* jump for a third year QB. I don't fault anybody doubting Brock since he's only played 2 years, but for me, and from what I've experienced and seen of Joe, Steve, Jeff, and the rest of the 49er QB's. He's definitely up there with Joe and Steve from an accuracy, processing, and mobility point of view.