QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:
Does Brock have a longer throwing motion than Lance? I didn't know that if he does. Lance just had a really funky throwing motion, to me. His last year here it looked really good though.

Griese has said that Brock is the best processor he's ever seen. So that's always wonderful

Lance's throwing ability was picked apart more mainly in argument about how talented he was… a lot of times with a background of comparisons to the physically gifted QBs in the league.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Brock Would never.

Fixed it for you.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'm not trying to argue back and forth about his arm strength mainly because I don't think it's a critical skill to be a good QB. He has enough arm strength to run an offense. It's still one of the weakest arms in the league. His motion is long. Burrow doesn't have a cannon but he is an effortless thrower. You can see him flick a 40 yard pass going across his body moving to his left or hit a 60 yard pass in the air with a simple step into the throw. Brock isn't doing either. It's ok.

Also I think it's funny how everyone hated on Lance's throwing motion (for sure wasn't the best) but next to no one talks about Brock's throwing motion which is longer as well.

That's simple man, Brock makes plays consistently, can throw accurately and on time, read defenses at a much faster rate than normal, as well as having better than advertised mobility. He's just an all around better QB in almost every sense of the word, other than arm strength, which despite all of the folks acting like it is the be all end all of quarterbacking, is one of the least important attributes. It's more like a bonus if the guy can do everything else well.

Does Brock have a longer throwing motion than Lance? I didn't know that if he does. Lance just had a really funky throwing motion, to me. His last year here it looked really good though.

Griese has said that Brock is the best processor he's ever seen. So that's always wonderful

Brock's isn't the shortest, but Trey was way worse before his season few starting games. As soon as I saw Brock actually play in a game that mattered I was convinced that he was our best QB. The only knock I had on him before then was seeing him look like a noodle arm in college, but he was different once he hit the pros. More zip on the ball, then the qb coach who helped him said they got his velocity up 5-6 mph to above the average which is 50 mph. Nothing against Trey, he just lacked the playing experience that Brock had, and nothing beats experience.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Brock Would never.

Fixed it for you.

huh?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Greg Olsen on Brock Purdy:

"People don't give him enough credit for what he does because he's at the mercy of the talented guys around him and I don't think it should be used against him. I think he's earned everything he's had. He's as big a part of the reason why they're… pic.twitter.com/E52aQsR6R8

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) June 27, 2024

Brees having sean payton and all the talent around him was never used against him

Originally posted by tankle104:

Greg Olsen on Brock Purdy:

"People don't give him enough credit for what he does because he's at the mercy of the talented guys around him and I don't think it should be used against him. I think he's earned everything he's had. He's as big a part of the reason why they're… pic.twitter.com/E52aQsR6R8

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) June 27, 2024

Nice. How cool would it have been to announce on those first games?



The 1st and only

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Brees having sean payton and all the talent around him was never used against him

When Brock Purdy is the driving force of the offense with 550, 600+ attempts every year, and every defense in the world is gearing up to stop their passing game first, and still putting up Brees-type numbers....then they will go a long way to stop using that sort of stuff against him. The fact is, the Niner offense runs - no pun intended - through CMC and the running game first....and opposing defenses game plan against that first. This is not to say what Purdy is, or isn't, but it remains unknown as to how good Purdy would be if asked to throw it 40+ times a game, and defensive coaches spending the week focused on stopping the Niner passing game first.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Brees having sean payton and all the talent around him was never used against him

When Brock Purdy is the driving force of the offense with 550, 600+ attempts every year, and every defense in the world is gearing up to stop their passing game first, and still putting up Brees-type numbers....then they will go a long way to stop using that sort of stuff against him. The fact is, the Niner offense runs - no pun intended - through CMC and the running game first....and opposing defenses game plan against that first. This is not to say what Purdy is, or isn't, but it remains unknown as to how good Purdy would be if asked to throw it 40+ times a game, and defensive coaches spending the week focused on stopping the Niner passing game first.

When Joe Montana didn't have a running game he also sucked. 3-6 *suck* to be exact. Year was 1982.

Originally posted by Giedi:
When Joe Montana didn't have a running game he also sucked. 3-6 *suck* to be exact. Year was 1982.

Joe Montana didn't suck. Joe Montana didn't have a running game in 1981 either, and they won the SB. In 1982, the team sucked, and would've been a complete train wreck if it wasn't for his play.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
When Joe Montana didn't have a running game he also sucked. 3-6 *suck* to be exact. Year was 1982.

Joe Montana didn't suck. Joe Montana didn't have a running game in 1981 either, and they won the SB. In 1982, the team sucked, and would've been a complete train wreck if it wasn't for his play.

When a QB *doesn't have* a running game - he'll suck. 1981 had a great defense that masked the lack of a 49er running game, in addition the WCO was (in a sense) brand new and not a lot of defenses could handle the Walsh precision passing attack at that time. Once the 49er defense became ordinary in 1982, *even Joe* with his hall of fame level passing skills couldn't win games *without* a decent run game. What did Walsh do the next year? He drafts Roger Craig and trades for Wedell Tyler.

Originally posted by Giedi:
When a QB *doesn't have* a running game - he'll suck.

It's a categorically false statement. Joe Montana is proof of that...that's one of the many reasons why he is an all time great.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Giedi:
When a QB *doesn't have* a running game - he'll suck.

It's a categorically false statement. Joe Montana is proof of that...that's one of the many reasons why he is an all time great.

The 1982 team was still really young. They caught the legue by surprise in 1981 and rode it all the way to a SB win. They weren't really a complete team yet. Plus 1982 was a strike year. The combination of coming off a SB win that was unexpected and facing a strike were huge distractions.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
When Brock Purdy is the driving force of the offense with 550, 600+ attempts every year, and every defense in the world is gearing up to stop their passing game first, and still putting up Brees-type numbers....then they will go a long way to stop using that sort of stuff against him. The fact is, the Niner offense runs - no pun intended - through CMC and the running game first....and opposing defenses game plan against that first. This is not to say what Purdy is, or isn't, but it remains unknown as to how good Purdy would be if asked to throw it 40+ times a game, and defensive coaches spending the week focused on stopping the Niner passing game first.

This is why Brady, despite winning 3 SBs early on, was not considered more than "the best game manager QB, but clutch" until he threw 50 TDs in 2007. People love and respect stats more than they love high efficiency and championships. Brady got more respect in the great QB conversation for throwing 50 TDs and losing the SB than he did winning the SB.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The 1982 team was still really young. They caught the legue by surprise in 1981 and rode it all the way to a SB win. They weren't really a complete team yet. Plus 1982 was a strike year. The combination of coming off a SB win that was unexpected and facing a strike were huge distractions.

While accurate, it's mostly irrelevant to the specific discussion of whether a QB will 'suck' without a running game. That is simply untrue.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The 1982 team was still really young. They caught the legue by surprise in 1981 and rode it all the way to a SB win. They weren't really a complete team yet. Plus 1982 was a strike year. The combination of coming off a SB win that was unexpected and facing a strike were huge distractions.

While accurate, it's mostly irrelevant to the specific discussion of whether a QB will 'suck' without a running game. That is simply untrue.

Ask anyQB is he would prefer a strong running game and the answer would be yes. It doesn't mean you can't win without one but it places a huge burden on the QB, WRs and OL. Linemen prefer run blocking and are usually better at it.