QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
No, his job is to do what his client wants him to do, lol.

Why do you think a player hires an agent? The agents job is literally to negotiate contracts lol

Which does not equate to haggling for every last red cent each time. An agent is the employee of the player and does as he is instructed. Tyreek Hills agent was told to get him that bag at all costs, eff the rings. Brady's agent not so much. There's plenty of evidence in NFL history to support his statement so not sure why argue unless to argue.

How some don't understand this is odd to me. The agent negotiates for what the client tells him to.

sure, more athletes just want the most money possible so that's what agents shoot for but that doesn't mean that is always the case.

negotiations usually start with the agent telling the team what the player is looking to get (which the player told the agent what he is seeking. Sure the agent will inform the client on what they believe they can get as well.), parameters they're expecting etc, then the team makes an offer - which is then countered etc.

there's also a lot more to the contracts than the money, such as the language and structure of clauses etc. that is really where a great agent shows their value - protects the player as best as possible through language.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
In th end the fans pay for those increases through higher ticket prices or subscription prices to their cable or streaming services. Many of the streaming services are losing money so don't be shocked if you see big increases in the next few years. YouTube lost over $1 billion last year and could likely lose $9 billion before the agreement runs out. That's serious losses.

No they dont. The team/nfl/league increases prices, the fans pay it, then the players demand their cut of the profits.
If the price increased and enough fans said no, the profits would not increase, and the players will get the same amount.

Loosing money has been an on and off again talking point my entire life....

I remember when NBC went nuts with the first billion dollar offer, all we heard for years was how much money was lost....then poof next contract...it was up to 3 billion....
so yeah....I am sure at least in part...this is just the nature of American tax landscape combined with Corporate bookkeeping.

I am sure companies are not laying out billions for the heck of it.....

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
No, his job is to do what his client wants him to do, lol.

Why do you think a player hires an agent? The agents job is literally to negotiate contracts lol

You honestly think that players don't give them instructions?

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
No, his job is to do what his client wants him to do, lol.

Why do you think a player hires an agent? The agents job is literally to negotiate contracts lol

You honestly think that players don't give them instructions?

what kind of instructions.. like a personal assistant ?

if you have to tell your agent what to do, then you are better off doing it yourself

Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree, it's ridiculous. I get players wanting to get paid but I can name a ton of contracts that are ridiculous and hurt their team.

if I was a franchise qb - I'd figure out a way to be filthy rich and help the team put players around me to compete. Brock's going to be filthy rich regardless of if he takes $40M, 50, or 60M a year. The only difference is the type of flexibility he gives the team to help him compete for a Super Bowl consistently - especially with a front office that has proven to be excellent at finding talent all over the field.

and yeah, the agent doesn't determine what the player wants. They do what the player says - if Brock says do X or says "I want the most money possible" is what dictates negotiations.

You say all that until you're put in that position lol. People acting like a difference in $10-$20M is nothing when in fact that's a f**k ton of cash. Let's keep it real.

we all watch AA breakdown his paychecks and while he said it's a good amount of money, you see all the stuff taken out every check. Just like us.

Brock has been playing for basically free for 3 yrs. He will absolutely want to get as much as possible. It's football he could get an Alex Smith injury a week after his signs his deal. He saw his UCL bend in half. He sees that OL. He's not gonna take a "home town" discount just because he seems like a good guy. Go look a Kirk cousins who's the poster child of "good guys" he wanted his money all the same.

sure the agent listens to the player. The agent also represents a bunch of players and he has a portfolio to keep up. Players see him leaving $ on the table and they will dump his ass and go with someone else. Draft prospects won't sign with a guy/girl like that either.

People just expecting him to take a discount are being naive. He's gonna get a stupid amount of cash and we will have to part with some damn good players…the whole point of paying a QB that kind of cash is that he's suppose to elevate the guys he has on the team. If he can do that then he was never worth that type of cash to begin with.

Originally posted by tankle104:

A look at Brock Purdy warming up for today's practice

🎥: @957thegame pic.twitter.com/seniiLtaj7

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) July 29, 2024

Lol it's more like, Purdy deeds done dirt cheap 🎶 until phat payday of course.

I am in the camp of..the 9ers are going to pay him and pay him bigly, I think it will be a smooth going contract with no drama and I also think he is going to get full price. Because you don't want to cheapen yourself if you are one of the best-if not the best-qbs in the league. Give him all the bennies..cause that is what he deserves. I also think he stays on the 9ers for a while.

BCB bucks let's goo

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree, it's ridiculous. I get players wanting to get paid but I can name a ton of contracts that are ridiculous and hurt their team.

if I was a franchise qb - I'd figure out a way to be filthy rich and help the team put players around me to compete. Brock's going to be filthy rich regardless of if he takes $40M, 50, or 60M a year. The only difference is the type of flexibility he gives the team to help him compete for a Super Bowl consistently - especially with a front office that has proven to be excellent at finding talent all over the field.

and yeah, the agent doesn't determine what the player wants. They do what the player says - if Brock says do X or says "I want the most money possible" is what dictates negotiations.

You say all that until you're put in that position lol. People acting like a difference in $10-$20M is nothing when in fact that's a f**k ton of cash. Let's keep it real.

we all watch AA breakdown his paychecks and while he said it's a good amount of money, you see all the stuff taken out every check. Just like us.

Brock has been playing for basically free for 3 yrs. He will absolutely want to get as much as possible. It's football he could get an Alex Smith injury a week after his signs his deal. He saw his UCL bend in half. He sees that OL. He's not gonna take a "home town" discount just because he seems like a good guy. Go look a Kirk cousins who's the poster child of "good guys" he wanted his money all the same.

sure the agent listens to the player. The agent also represents a bunch of players and he has a portfolio to keep up. Players see him leaving $ on the table and they will dump his ass and go with someone else. Draft prospects won't sign with a guy/girl like that either.

People just expecting him to take a discount are being naive. He's gonna get a stupid amount of cash and we will have to part with some damn good players…the whole point of paying a QB that kind of cash is that he's suppose to elevate the guys he has on the team. If he can do that then he was never worth that type of cash to begin with.

I 1000% understand why players take the most money possible. Especially in this sport, but it really just depends on the person and what they value.

I've had job offers of $150k and $125k and chose the $125k cause I felt like it was a better situation. And $25k at those salaries matters a whole lot more towards your life than when you're making millions.

Whether we like it or not , we spend a majority of our life at our job. So in my opinion, it's best to find the right situation instead of chase the most money.

if Brock takes as much as he can possibly get, I won't fault him. It's his choice. I just don't assume everyone thinks the most money possible is the best thing for them and agents job is to get the best deal their client desires.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
this s**t has been going on since the dawn of man. The human race loves entertainment

Bread and circuses has always been prioritized by the ruling elite to placate the masses. The more we're distracted the more we don't notice their malfeasance.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I 1000% understand why players take the most money possible. Especially in this sport, but it really just depends on the person and what they value.

I've had job offers of $150k and $125k and chose the $125k cause I felt like it was a better situation. And $25k at those salaries matters a whole lot more towards your life than when you're making millions.

Whether we like it or not , we spend a majority of our life at our job. So in my opinion, it's best to find the right situation instead of chase the most money.

if Brock takes as much as he can possibly get, I won't fault him. It's his choice. I just don't assume everyone thinks the most money possible is the best thing for them and agents job is to get the best deal their client desires.

We can't compare our own jobs to theirs. that's the first problem fans have with this topic.

they're playing a sport they love to play. They're not working a 8-5 every single day for 30 years, You don't lose your job if you tear your ACL or turn 30 lol. This is a grind it out and make as much as you can in a short period of time. They've been playing football for relatively nothing up until then.

A lot of these guys don't even make it past their rookie deals. A really great career is getting a second big contract. s**t I think we have what 1 player that has made the 10 yr club in the 2000's? Bryant Young. Joe will be on that list, but that's how hard it is to play on one team (because you like that situation).

The agent works for the player AND all his other players. The players are a fraternity and they expect the next guy up to get as much $ as possible to increase everyone else's $ at that position. They have a union and you damn well know they don't want their players leaving cash on the table.

look sweet if Brock says yeah I'm cool being paid as much as Daniel Jones lol. That s**t isn't reality and folks gotta prepare themselves for a stupid high contract, guys having to leave and we should ALL expect Brock to elevate the cheaper guys around him…if not then the money was not spent well

I am more curious about the length of the contract. If he has another great year I'm giving him a 10 year deal.

The short career argument is often brought up but it's really bogus. If they get injured or aren't good enough to stay on the roster they have to get jobs like the rest of us. Thousands of people end up in jobs that they never expected. Many college graduates work in fields they didn't major in. Why can't athletes do the same? Why is it assumed that they have to make as much as they can in 5 years or so?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The short career argument is often brought up but it's really bogus. If they get injured or aren't good enough to stay on the roster they have to get jobs like the rest of us. Thousands of people end up in jobs that they never expected. Many college graduates work in fields they didn't major in. Why can't athletes do the same? Why is it assumed that they have to make as much as they can in 5 years or so?

Wait so you're telling me if you had the opportunity to make as much as possible (like 1% $$) knowing that you're job could be over with the next time you go into work…you shouldn't try to do that?

Not sure what's bogus about that? Again comparing yourself (or the thousands of people) to a professional athlete is not how it works. The whole point for these guys is to set themselves, their family, kids, and their children's kids up for the rest of their lives. Not go sell real-estate after their done in 5-6 yrs.

This sport makes so much damn money, they want as many pieces of the pie. No different than anywhere else.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I am more curious about the length of the contract. If he has another great year I'm giving him a 10 year deal.

The only reason that deal works for mahomes is because he knows they will continue to restructure his deal, giving him more GTD cash each time. The bill will come due there consistently pushing the cap portion of it down the road. Especially if he gets hurt. I think his agent knows this and at some point they will have to renegotiate a new deal with vastly more gtd cash on a shorter deal because of his age. I mean his cap goes up to $67M next yr.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The short career argument is often brought up but it's really bogus. If they get injured or aren't good enough to stay on the roster they have to get jobs like the rest of us. Thousands of people end up in jobs that they never expected. Many college graduates work in fields they didn't major in. Why can't athletes do the same? Why is it assumed that they have to make as much as they can in 5 years or so?

Wait so you're telling me if you had the opportunity to make as much as possible (like 1% $$) knowing that you're job could be over with the next time you go into work…you shouldn't try to do that?

Not sure what's bogus about that? Again comparing yourself (or the thousands of people) to a professional athlete is not how it works. The whole point for these guys is to set themselves, their family, kids, and their children's kids up for the rest of their lives. Not go sell real-estate after their done in 5-6 yrs.

This sport makes so much damn money, they want as many pieces of the pie. No different than anywhere else.

I still don't see why they feel they have to set themselves up for the rest of their lives. If they retire or are forced out of the game at 30-32 or whatever, why can't they work in another field. Most of them do. Where is it written that pro athletes are supposed to just sit around for half their life? Even $2 or $3 million per year will give you some savings to build your future on as long as you don't go crazy buying Lambos and Ferraris. This argument has been perpetrated by the media for so long that fans believe these guys can't work when their playing career is over.

I agree that most players want to make as much as they can while playing since most have no chance to make that much at any other profession. That doesn't mean they're entitled to it.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still don't see why they feel they have to set themselves up for the rest of their lives. If they retire or are forced out of the game at 30-32 or whatever, why can't they work in another field. Most of them do. Where is it written that pro athletes are supposed to just sit around for half their life? Even $2 or $3 million per year will give you some savings to build your future on as long as you don't go crazy buying Lambos and Ferraris. This argument has been perpetrated by the media for so long that fans believe these guys can't work when their playing career is over.

I agree that most players want to make as much as they can while playing since most have no chance to make that much at any other profession. That doesn't mean they're entitled to it.

No one says they have to sit around. Most invest in other things.

Now you're talking about how people/capitalism work.

if I told you that you could win $1M in the lottery OR you could win $20M in the lottery, which are you taking? It's not like these young men haven't been working their life off to get to this moment, now you want them to take a discount (while others most certainly aren't)?

What if I said you can make more money then you'll ever see in a 5 yr span (by a lot)… but you shouldn't do that, because you should want to work after that 5 yrs? Come on now.

Freedom to do what you want, help out who you want, do something for your friends/family that not many people get to do, no stress of paying bills AND enjoy life to the fullest is the ultimate goal. I would assume. Unfortunately that more than often requires $$$.

acting like they owe us anything in regards to how much they get paid is silly. Supply and demand, the market dictates how much something is worth in a capitalist world.