QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
That thread changed my view on Elway a long time ago. For me he'll always just be that dejected baby walking off the field after a 55-10 BEATDOWN.

One of the best SB memories I have had, I laughed my ass off. I thought John was under the influence of something or idk what lol, some of the worst ball throwing I have ever seen. Like throwing wild turkeys into the wind. Just horrible. I was like wtf is he doing? How can you be that bad in an SB? Lolol

Whew.
Beautiful football.
Would love to drop 55 on the Chiefs.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I love Brock Purdy. But for people to say there is only 1 QB in the NFL that they have would rather have than him is insane to me.

I would take Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and CJ Stroud over Purdy, Brock Purdy might agree too.

And obviously Mahomes right? I would take Herbert too. But I also think the jury is still out on Stroud. He may be the real deal. But I want to see it for more than 1 season, personally.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. Especially when they see highlights of amazing game winning drives from Mahomes, Allen and some of the so called elite QBs.

Heh, Joe had **Zero** of any come-from-behind or keep-ahead playoff wins in his 2nd year.

Actually Montana had a huge comeback win against the Saints in his second year. He came in for DeBerg with the Saints leading 35-7. That was nea rthe end of the season and it convinced Walsh that Joe would be the starter next season.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I love Brock Purdy. But for people to say there is only 1 QB in the NFL that they have would rather have than him is insane to me.

I would take Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and CJ Stroud over Purdy, Brock Purdy might agree too.

And obviously Mahomes right? I would take Herbert too. But I also think the jury is still out on Stroud. He may be the real deal. But I want to see it for more than 1 season, personally.

f**k Mahomes I'd leave that b***h sitting on the curve. Obviously I'd change my tune if he was a 9er like I did Richard Sherman but yah f**k Mahomes. Herbert, I don't know, I'd probably stick with Brock because he's been better in the playoffs.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I love Brock Purdy. But for people to say there is only 1 QB in the NFL that they have would rather have than him is insane to me.

I would take Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and CJ Stroud over Purdy, Brock Purdy might agree too.

And obviously Mahomes right? I would take Herbert too. But I also think the jury is still out on Stroud. He may be the real deal. But I want to see it for more than 1 season, personally.

f**k Mahomes I'd leave that b***h sitting on the curve. Obviously I'd change my tune if he was a 9er like I did Richard Sherman but yah f**k Mahomes. Herbert, I don't know, I'd probably stick with Brock because he's been better in the playoffs.

I mean....you can dislike Mahomes all you want but he would unquestionably be an upgrade over Brock.

Herbert has only played one playoff game and he did fine. Not amazing, not bad.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
For once we're in agreement lol.

Elway was unicorn for his time

A unicorn???

From a physical standpoint yes. Rocket arm, athletic, had the size.

I thought you said you know football very well lol

Quarterbacks who have/had a rocket arm, athletic, had the size:

John Elway
Cam Newton
Colin Kaepernick
Jamarcus Russell
Josh Allen
Michael Vick
Randall Cunningham
Matt Stafford
Jay Cutler

Unicorn implies one of a kind.

*For his time...

Didn't know all those QBs played in the 80s

Outside Cunningham, there wasn't another Elway.

Hence him being a unicorn for his time. Even Cunningham didnt have his size/strength. He definitely wasn't running through defenders like Elway did at times.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

That was how this conversation got started. People claiming Brock should be ranked higher. Not getting respect. 49er fans know what Brock can do and they know he's a good QB. The rest of the country doesn't get to see all the Niner games. Only prime time games That's where opinions are formed by all these sites that rank players. You don't have to care what they think (I don't) but don't complain about where they rank him.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
From a physical standpoint yes. Rocket arm, athletic, had the size.

I thought you said you know football very well lol

Was that your comeback? Lolol..Elway and unicorn in the same sentence is just wrong. It is disrespectful to unicorns lol. "Rocket arm, athletic, had the size." So, Lance is a unicorn too? It goes much further than just these attributes lol.

And gtfo with ppl picking Stroud over Purdy lol. Great player and excited about him but damn lol.

If Purdy was a 1st or 2nd rounder, he would probably get more respect, even more so with an SB win. But 7th rounder and doesn't have an SB title.. yet.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

That was how this conversation got started. People claiming Brock should be ranked higher. Not getting respect. 49er fans know what Brock can do and they know he's a good QB. The rest of the country doesn't get to see all the Niner games. Only prime time games That's where opinions are formed by all these sites that rank players. You don't have to care what they think (I don't) but don't complain about where they rank him.

This started with our own 49er fan who posted his rankings. His beliefs are based on the same beliefs of what the rest of the NFL thinks

i replied to him with the same, that most people are misinformed as we are kept from the limelight of major sport networks

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
*For his time...

Didn't know all those QBs played in the 80s

Outside Cunningham, there wasn't another Elway.

Hence him being a unicorn for his time. Even Cunningham didnt have his size/strength. He definitely wasn't running through defenders like Elway did at times.

We all know the unicorn of the 80s was Marino hehe.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

That was how this conversation got started. People claiming Brock should be ranked higher. Not getting respect. 49er fans know what Brock can do and they know he's a good QB. The rest of the country doesn't get to see all the Niner games. Only prime time games That's where opinions are formed by all these sites that rank players. You don't have to care what they think (I don't) but don't complain about where they rank him.

This started with our own 49er fan who posted his rankings. His beliefs are based on the same beliefs of what the rest of the NFL thinks

i replied to him with the same, that most people are misinformed as we are kept from the limelight of major sport networks

The Niners are in prime time 5 times this year. About the same as they are every year. They've also been in the playoffs a lot. That's still a limited number of games. If a player doesn't impress in those games fans are likely to see him as just another player. Niner fans do it with players on teams we don't see a lot. It's only natural.

I'll stand by what I said about Brock needing some big comeback wins and preferably a SB win. That's where legends are made and it's what sticks in people's mind. With the Niners balance attack he's not likely to have many 370 yard games with 4TDs. The Niners don't need that from him.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

That was how this conversation got started. People claiming Brock should be ranked higher. Not getting respect. 49er fans know what Brock can do and they know he's a good QB. The rest of the country doesn't get to see all the Niner games. Only prime time games That's where opinions are formed by all these sites that rank players. You don't have to care what they think (I don't) but don't complain about where they rank him.

This started with our own 49er fan who posted his rankings. His beliefs are based on the same beliefs of what the rest of the NFL thinks

i replied to him with the same, that most people are misinformed as we are kept from the limelight of major sport networks

The Niners are in prime time 5 times this year. About the same as they are every year. They've also been in the playoffs a lot. That's still a limited number of games. If a player doesn't impress in those games fans are likely to see him as just another player. Niner fans do it with players on teams we don't see a lot. It's only natural.

I'll stand by what I said about Brock needing some big comeback wins and preferably a SB win. That's where legends are made and it's what sticks in people's mind. With the Niners balance attack he's not likely to have many 370 yard games with 4TDs. The Niners don't need that from him.

but we did great in 3 of the those 5 games. I'm talking about the nauseating crap in between weekends and the one play they highlight durning SNF/MNF

saying he need to win how you want him to win is not the right way to rank a QB.. the two 2023 comeback playoff wins should wipe out a lot of QBs you have in front of him

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. Especially when they see highlights of amazing game winning drives from Mahomes, Allen and some of the so called elite QBs.

Heh, Joe had **Zero** of any come-from-behind or keep-ahead playoff wins in his 2nd year.

Actually Montana had a huge comeback win against the Saints in his second year. He came in for DeBerg with the Saints leading 35-7. That was nea rthe end of the season and it convinced Walsh that Joe would be the starter next season.

What's more important - come from behind wins in the regular season or come from behind wins in the playoffs?

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Mahomes
Allen
Burrow
Herbert
Jackson
Stafford
Stroud
Love

I'd take these players over Brock.

Probably a couple more I'd at least consider as higher ceiling gambles

Only the bolded players I would take zero questions over Brock. The other guys meh.

We need to see one more year of play IMO. If he continues to excel in Shanny's O then no doubt he's a top five QB and we will have to pay him like one (well doh).

I agree that one more year is probably needed. He also needs a couple of signature wins where he brings the team back in the 4th quarter from a deficit of 10 points or more. A SB win wouldn't hurt.

He's shown he can be a good QB when things are going his way and he makes good decisions most of the time. The thing is those aren't qualities that stand out and make the casual fan or fans around the country take notice. Until he gets those signature wins he'll continue to be viewed as a good system QB but not great. They'll say that with all the talent he has around him he should be winning. Montana had a lot of talent around him but he had some fantastic comebacks in his career. Steve Young had his share too. Brock needs his.

I've seen enough of Joe and Steve to know we have the real deal in Brock. His impressive come from behind wins in the playoffs are an example.

Leading a 40 yard drive and getting in position for a FG isn't huge. Half the games I watch have a last minute drive like that. Purdy has three 4th quarter game winning drives. One in the regular season and 2 in the playoffs. None of them were when he trailed by 10 points or more. The only one that was a TD drive was against GB.

FG wins aren't memorable. Maybe for Niner fans but not to the general public. That's why so many people still don't believe he's a franchise QB. I'm a Purdy fan but until he has a couple big games where he does something amazing people around the country will doubt him. To be fair, he hasn't had a lot of opportunities since the 49ers are so good. They rarely fall behind by more than one score.

Tom Brady started his career by getting into FG range, even won SBs that way

saying QBs have to do this and that to be considered a top QB is just not being genuine

It sure is. Tom Brady became famous for leading the team to SB wins which is something I said Purdy has to do. Driving downfield with 2 minutes to play is fairly easy with rules being what they are now. Three or 4 completions can put the team in FG range with all the kickers that can make it from 50-60 yards. We've all seen how quickly a team can move down the field as teams play deep to prevent a TD.

So Purdy did do that in the SB, the defense couldn't make a stop. Why does that land on Purdy

Purdy has already shown he can do everything, hopefully he can continue doing that

Purdy didn't bring them back from 10 points down. It was a FG drive. Not impressive. The FG that set a new SB record was more impressive than the drive. If you recall. Mahomes trailed the Niners by 10 points entering the 4th quarter and rallied the team to a big victory.

I'm not knocking Purdy. I'm just explaining why the rest of the country doesn't think he's elite.

Like I said earlier.. jumping through hoops on how they won to satisfy a person's belief of what a QB is, is not being genuine

who cares what the rest of the country thinks. They can think whatever they want while watching us in the playoffs

That was how this conversation got started. People claiming Brock should be ranked higher. Not getting respect. 49er fans know what Brock can do and they know he's a good QB. The rest of the country doesn't get to see all the Niner games. Only prime time games That's where opinions are formed by all these sites that rank players. You don't have to care what they think (I don't) but don't complain about where they rank him.

This started with our own 49er fan who posted his rankings. His beliefs are based on the same beliefs of what the rest of the NFL thinks

i replied to him with the same, that most people are misinformed as we are kept from the limelight of major sport networks

The Niners are in prime time 5 times this year. About the same as they are every year. They've also been in the playoffs a lot. That's still a limited number of games. If a player doesn't impress in those games fans are likely to see him as just another player. Niner fans do it with players on teams we don't see a lot. It's only natural.

I'll stand by what I said about Brock needing some big comeback wins and preferably a SB win. That's where legends are made and it's what sticks in people's mind. With the Niners balance attack he's not likely to have many 370 yard games with 4TDs. The Niners don't need that from him.

but we did great in 3 of the those 5 games. I'm talking about the nauseating crap in between weekends and the one play they highlight durning SNF/MNF

saying he need to win how you want him to win is not the right way to rank a QB.. the two 2023 comeback playoff wins should wipe out a lot of QBs you have in front of him

Yup, also in only his second year as a NFL QB. The rest of the NFL will find out this year how good Brock can be.