QB Brock Purdy Thread

After watching a couple of takes such has Baldys and Achos I see why Brock is not dishing the ball out quickly this year. The WR's are not getting seperation like they did in the past, causing him to have to hold the ball a little longer. Defenses are scheming for it, now the question is can Kyle counter it.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Interesting stat on tv:

Brock Purdy 4th quarter

Leading in 4th:
Comp pct 72.3
TD-INT 9-1
Passer Rating 131.3

Trailing 4th quarter
Comp pct 60.0
TD-INT 1-5
Passer Rating 62.4

I sure hope he can pull it together. We are really only missing CMC. He needs to be able to come back when down. The chat again is where does he really rank in the QB rankings. Is 12 to 14 about right?

Pretty much every QB not named Mahomes. They ALL are worse trailing and coming from behind. It's a stat where people like the pundits think they found something. But compare it to all QB's and you come out like that. Worse than normal. Mahomes is unusual.

...and Mahomes's stat isn't even the truth, since he gets so much help.

He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

Originally posted by amir_tn80:

He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

I haven't noticed any difference in processing. I think he's just locking on deep too much and being greedy. I believe he's admitted as much recently.

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

This is a bad take. We're missing the friggin reigning offensive player of the year out there and people like you are acting that Brock is out there looking lost.

He's processing just fine, he's just not always trusting the guys who are out there. Unfortunately due to the holdouts and injuries we had in camp there is a clear issue with trust/chemistry IMO.

Teams are playing more man against us and our two best players at beating man are Aiyuk and Jennings. It's not a big surprise that they're the ones who have had the big games for us this year. Jennings was the most consistent guy in camp and he and Brock clearly picked up on the connection he had with Aiyuk last year. BA's holdout clearly hurt their chemistry and hopefully the Arizona game showed it's starting to come back.

No CMC also massively affects how teams defend us. As good as Mason has been he's not CMC, especially in the pass game.

It all flows together and you get the disjointed offense you see and the biggest impact of CMC is clearly in the redzone situations. He was huge for us and we need to adjust QUICKLY until(hopefully) he comes back.

I expect the offense to pick things up and I don't see an issue with Brock outside of him thinking he needs to do too much. I'm curious what his 2nd half would've looked like had Moody not been injured.

After watching JD's breakdown of the game, I now contend missing CMC has had the most vital impact on the game.

Mostly because Mason misses a ton of gaps. I didn't think it was as bad as it was, but we need a top-tier back that can hit those holes and not rush directly into opponents.

Originally posted by TyCore:
After watching JD's breakdown of the game, I now contend missing CMC has had the most vital impact on the game.

Mostly because Mason misses a ton of gaps. I didn't think it was as bad as it was, but we need a top-tier back that can hit those holes and not rush directly into opponents.

Not sure how great of an argument this is when isolating running the football. He's the 2nd leading rusher in the NFL and he had set a team record through 4 games I believe. He's on pace for 1500 plus yards.

Now I agree we are missing CMC, but it's because of what he brings in the pass game.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by TyCore:
After watching JD's breakdown of the game, I now contend missing CMC has had the most vital impact on the game.

Mostly because Mason misses a ton of gaps. I didn't think it was as bad as it was, but we need a top-tier back that can hit those holes and not rush directly into opponents.

Not sure how great of an argument this is when isolating running the football. He's the 2nd leading rusher in the NFL and he had set a team record through 4 games I believe. He's on pace for 1500 plus yards.

Now I agree we are missing CMC, but it's because of what he brings in the pass game.

Mason has been great but it's also a trickle down effect.

You see Guerendo coming in and missing gaps for what could be huge runs or at least bigger runs than he's getting. Those would be opportunities Mason would be getting as CMC's backup. CMC's vision also allows him to break more big runs so the same gap for Mason leading to 30 yards could mean a 50 yard TD for CMC.

Originally posted by bud49:
After watching a couple of takes such has Baldys and Achos I see why Brock is not dishing the ball out quickly this year. The WR's are getting seperation like they did in the past, causing him to have to hold the ball a little longer. Defenses are scheming for it, now the question is can Kyle counter it.

We have the slowest separation in the league. It's pathetic. It's all just run after catch and route running with Aiyuk. We need a Justin Jefferson who can separate and go deep.

Nick WRONG says Purdy can't win without CMC. What a cesspool. Our defense and special teams are horrific. Plus our WR's don't separate. It's not the problem with this team. Not why we are losing. Purdy has played pretty well.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

I haven't noticed any difference in processing. I think he's just locking on deep too much and being greedy. I believe he's admitted as much recently.

Agreed.

It's more about him holding on to the ball for too long in search of the deep pass.

It's clearly an Issue with him right now, but one that can be fixed with a simple take what the defense gives you approach.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

I haven't noticed any difference in processing. I think he's just locking on deep too much and being greedy. I believe he's admitted as much recently.

Agreed.

It's more about him holding on to the ball for too long in search of the deep pass.

It's clearly an Issue with him right now, but one that can be fixed with a simple take what the defense gives you approach.

Have you seen Baldy's breakdown of the game and where the WR's are not getting separation? I thought he was just looking for the big play also but when I watched film breakdown by Baldy and Acho I could see there was no separation. I also was listening to the sports talk radio and they had a media guy who said Kyle changed the scheme a little bit to rely more on the deep pass instead of the YAC plays.

I know Brock has not forgotten how to read a Defense quickly when he comes to the line in one year.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

I haven't noticed any difference in processing. I think he's just locking on deep too much and being greedy. I believe he's admitted as much recently.

it is the same old stuff as in the past seasons....

Brock wants chunks.....

We just have to sit back, and appreciate a QB that is rare as hell, he is aggressive and has the ability to make it work.....

Brock has his flaws, but his primary flaw...I think.....is he is not using the whole field.

He is willing to wait, and take a hit...to buy his guys another second to try and get open.....versus hitting a dude in space underneath.

That could be Brock, that could be coaching, that could be system....hell it could be stuff he overheard our defense talking about in years past. Lord knows our defense has offered and invited throws underneath as a means to get offenses off the field in the past.

With any luck, Brock will start to use those underneath options more often on 1st and second down and at least TRY and make teams worry about defending the entire field against him.

I really do think this offseason at least part of the offensive plan was to feature CMC...with the lack of play action, and the uptick in FB targets in the passing game.....I really do think the plan was less play action to allow LBers to drift deeper into coverage to give CMC more room to work and with no CMC some of that stuff is going in the FBs direction.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
He definitely seems slower in processing this season. He's still making big plays throughout the game but defenses have studied his tendencies especially in the red zone.

I haven't noticed any difference in processing. I think he's just locking on deep too much and being greedy. I believe he's admitted as much recently.

Agreed.

It's more about him holding on to the ball for too long in search of the deep pass.

It's clearly an Issue with him right now, but one that can be fixed with a simple take what the defense gives you approach.

When he gets the same pressure he got last year he doesn't hve CMC to dump the ball off to. That forces him to try and buy time to find an oen receiver. It's also why he's scrambling around more. Without MC, defenses aren't concerned about a RB in the flat so they can cover the WRs better.

It seems crazy that one player can make this much difference but remember how much better the offense was when he came here. It was like the missing piece of the puzzle. CMC is a very unique player that has few comparisons. His receiving skills and ability to run when in space is something teams need to game plan for.

Receivers struggling to get any separation down field Is clearly not helping either, that and not having CMC out there Is enough to affect any QBs level of play.

The underneath stuff Is still there, tho. I'm not sure who's really to blame for Brock wanting to take so many deep shots. Scheme? Or BP trying too hard?