I had this thought thus morning.
Put yourself in Purdy's place on draft day. You're sitting there with your family waiting to hear your name and the rounds keep going by. You've pretty much given up hope and decided you'll need to try out as a free agent. All of a suddenr at the end of the draft you hear that the 49ers picked you with the final pick.
What could be better. You're going to a team that has an offensive HC that's among the best play callers in the league. The teams is stacked on both sides of the ball. You'll be playing in a city that usually has good weather. They have 2 QBs that are ahead of you but one is young and inexperienced and the other one was out the door and probably won't be there next season. Plus he gets hurt often.
What scenario could be better for a QB picked with the final pick in the draft.
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Dec 29, 2022 at 10:04 AM
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Dec 29, 2022 at 10:08 AM
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basically saying purdy is more lucky to be picked by the niners than niners are lucky they picked purdy
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere in here but it's certainly worth checking out if you haven't seen it. The kid is a real gamer.
That jersey color and number and that crazy throw, I thought that was Patrick Maholmes for a second.
Lol. Same.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
I don't know if this has been posted anywhere in here but it's certainly worth checking out if you haven't seen it. The kid is a real gamer.
That jersey color and number and that crazy throw, I thought that was Patrick Maholmes for a second.
Lol. Same.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Agreed and good perspective. Kind of like Jones in the Superbowl, IIRC, those knock downs were a result of the DL dropping back further into the passing lanes, watching the QB and getting their hands up (disengaged). This is as much on the OL as anything.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I had this thought thus morning.
Put yourself in Purdy's place on draft day. You're sitting there with your family waiting to hear your name and the rounds keep going by. You've pretty much given up hope and decided you'll need to try out as a free agent. All of a suddenr at the end of the draft you hear that the 49ers picked you with the final pick.
What could be better. You're going to a team that has an offensive HC that's among the best play callers in the league. The teams is stacked on both sides of the ball. You'll be playing in a city that usually has good weather. They have 2 QBs that are ahead of you but one is young and inexperienced and the other one was out the door and probably won't be there next season. Plus he gets hurt often.
What scenario could be better for a QB picked with the final pick in the draft.
Getting a 1st round pick's guaranteed money.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Agreed and good perspective. Kind of like Jones in the Superbowl, IIRC, those knock downs were a result of the DL dropping back further into the passing lanes, watching the QB and getting their hands up (disengaged). This is as much on the OL as anything.
Yes. Its more on the o line than the QB but the QB can be at fault also if he is telegraphing his throws.
To put things a little more into perspective when talking about QB height. Jimmy is listed at 6'2", Brock at 6'1". The difference in their height is the length of the tip of my pinky to the first knuckle. 😅
49er QB Batted passes % over the last 2 seasons.
Jimmy- 2.8%
Trey- 4.9%
Brock- 3.5%
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:51 AM
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Does Purdy make the top 100 if he takes up to the title game?
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Agreed and good perspective. Kind of like Jones in the Superbowl, IIRC, those knock downs were a result of the DL dropping back further into the passing lanes, watching the QB and getting their hands up (disengaged). This is as much on the OL as anything.
Yes. Its more on the o line than the QB but the QB can be at fault also if he is telegraphing his throws.
To put things a little more into perspective when talking about QB height. Jimmy is listed at 6'2", Brock at 6'1". The difference in their height is the length of the tip of my pinky to the first knuckle. 😅
49er QB Batted passes % over the last 2 seasons.
Jimmy- 2.8%
Trey- 4.9%
Brock- 3.5%
Sample size too small. Just take out the commanders game and see what I mean.
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Agreed and good perspective. Kind of like Jones in the Superbowl, IIRC, those knock downs were a result of the DL dropping back further into the passing lanes, watching the QB and getting their hands up (disengaged). This is as much on the OL as anything.
Yes. Its more on the o line than the QB but the QB can be at fault also if he is telegraphing his throws.
To put things a little more into perspective when talking about QB height. Jimmy is listed at 6'2", Brock at 6'1". The difference in their height is the length of the tip of my pinky to the first knuckle. 😅
49er QB Batted passes % over the last 2 seasons.
Jimmy- 2.8%
Trey- 4.9%
Brock- 3.5%
Great point. LOL
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I've always been the type to dismiss small sample sizes, so many QB's I can list that just fizzled out quickly after hot starts.
But... I think the only thing that will hold Purdy back is himself. He can do everything at least good enough. I haven't seen anything in his game yet where I could see an obvious area where he can struggle in.
He can't let his success get to his head and think he can take it a bit easier in the off-season, practice, preparation, those type of things.
The biggest knock I can give him right now is his size. He's gonna need to be able to protect himself, and it seems like he's already pretty good at that.
Imo, he's got the instics to play the position well, and his arm is fine enough to make the majority of the throws. No, he'll never be able to roll to his left and throw a 50 yard rope, but that just isn't that necessary.
Playoffs are gonna be a different animal though, more holding / pi is allowed, defenses will be better. If he shows that he can handle playoff football, you gotta roll with this kid as the starter next year.
The only real weakness so far is passing lanes and knock downs at the LOS. He sometimes has to to slide into a window to see/pass.
Ya that's fair. Brees had the high angle delivery which helped him in that regard.
Yeah, I don't think it's crippling either. Just something that might pop up here and there.
Something we should keep an eye on but nothing to be concerned about as of now. 2 of his 4 batted passes this season came against one of the best d lines in the NFL. Trey is listed as 3 inches taller and has more batted passes in less pass attempts in their respective careers.
Agreed and good perspective. Kind of like Jones in the Superbowl, IIRC, those knock downs were a result of the DL dropping back further into the passing lanes, watching the QB and getting their hands up (disengaged). This is as much on the OL as anything.
Yes. Its more on the o line than the QB but the QB can be at fault also if he is telegraphing his throws.
To put things a little more into perspective when talking about QB height. Jimmy is listed at 6'2", Brock at 6'1". The difference in their height is the length of the tip of my pinky to the first knuckle. 😅
49er QB Batted passes % over the last 2 seasons.
Jimmy- 2.8%
Trey- 4.9%
Brock- 3.5%
Sample size too small. Just take out the commanders game and see what I mean.
Exactly why I said it is something to keep an eye on and not something to be concerned about atm.
My strife was more with using height as an argument. The height between Jimmy and Brock is negligible. And Jimmy's career batted passes percentage is 1.9%.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Dec 29, 2022 at 10:56 AM ]
Dec 29, 2022 at 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Time is the real test of greatness. I've seen players in all sports be great for a few games or even a couple of seasons. The true greats are good over and over for 5, 19, 15 years. You can find QBs that were better than Brady or Montana for a season but not over 10 years or more.
What are you getting at here? We gotta wait for a decade before we decide if Purdy is the QBOTF?