QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
This is the kind of data that opposing teams could use against BCB -

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/2022/brock-purdy/PUR243289/2022/all/qb-grid

Flood/lock down the left side and force him to throw to the right. Not saying he can't, just that he has not been as successful doing so this year.

Could it have something to do with not having Deebo for the past 2.5 games? Doesn't he typically line up on the right side when not in the backfield?

Sure could. Could be a number of things. It's just data - the why is not explained so we must speculate.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lawrence was not good last yr. He was inaccurate and looked lost. He handled pressure poorly and even running a similar offense that he had in Clemson was confused.

outside of coaching he was bad all on his own. I can give you a ton of clips of bad throws.

He was being coached by Urban Meyer. He would've played much better with a real coach that knows how to put a player in position to have success.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Sure could. Could be a number of things. It's just data - the why is not explained so we must speculate.

He's not an ambithrower.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Trey worked with Quincy Avery for like a year prior to the draft…that's who works with Hurts.

accuracy is based off timing and reps more than anything else. It's footwork and understanding coverages…he's not gonna magically improve there until he actually plays football. IMO overall he wasn't as horrible as people in here are saying. Not ridiculously consistent, but most young QBs aren't…gotta play football.

You know I've been down with Trey since we traded up to third. But there's gotta be a competition next year, unless Brock gets us to the Superbowl. In that case Trey's going to have to keep working behind the scenes to get better. If Hurts can improve over an offseason, there's no reason Trey can't.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

How much better can his pocket awareness get? How much better can he get at finding open receivers? I'm not saying he can't improve. I'm just saying that Trey has much more room to improve since he's quite a ways behind right now. Trey looks like a rookie. Purdy looks like a guy that's been in the league for 2-3 years.

Did anyone watch the Oregon-NC game last night? North Carolina ran that play where Purdy faked a pass to the left, spun and faked to the right and threw a pass down the n=middle to Kittle for a TD. It looked exactly the same. Of course the announcers were giving Carolina credit for calling such an ingenious play. I guess Gus Johnson doesn't watch many NFL games.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

How much better can his pocket awareness get? How much better can he get at finding open receivers? I'm not saying he can't improve. I'm just saying that Trey has much more room to improve since he's quite a ways behind right now. Trey looks like a rookie. Purdy looks like a guy that's been in the league for 2-3 years.

my comment above was a facetious throwback to comments made about Jimmy being unable to improve in some areas.

in all seriousness tho, i dont thing anyone can say this is as close to Brock's ceiling as he can get. just because Brock's floor is so high doesnt mean there isn't room for greater improvement in all areas.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

How much better can his pocket awareness get? How much better can he get at finding open receivers? I'm not saying he can't improve. I'm just saying that Trey has much more room to improve since he's quite a ways behind right now. Trey looks like a rookie. Purdy looks like a guy that's been in the league for 2-3 years.

There is always room for improvement. He's a rookie after all, even if he's playing like a vet. Just because Trey has more room to improved due to the fact he's starting from scratch doesn't really say much.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Did anyone watch the Oregon-NC game last night? North Carolina ran that play where Purdy faked a pass to the left, spun and faked to the right and threw a pass down the n=middle to Kittle for a TD. It looked exactly the same. Of course the announcers were giving Carolina credit for calling such an ingenious play. I guess Gus Johnson doesn't watch many NFL games.

That's not a new play, Walsh ran it with Steve Young back in 87.


So even on that note, Kyle can't take credit for designing it.

Called it at the perfect time though.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Time is the real test of greatness. I've seen players in all sports be great for a few games or even a couple of seasons. The true greats are good over and over for 5, 19, 15 years. You can find QBs that were better than Brady or Montana for a season but not over 10 years or more.

What are you getting at here? We gotta wait for a decade before we decide if Purdy is the QBOTF?

No but we've still got a small sample size. You could fill a large room with QBs or players at any position who flashed greatness for a few games and then settled into a more middle of the road player. I was responding to (and agreeing) a comment posted by Phoenix. You just can' decide that a QB is great or a bust based on 4 games. Even a season often isn't enough for a full evaluation.

Players develop at different speeds. Some are near their ceiling when the come out of college. Others a still learning a position. Some had good coaching and others had terrible coaching. Purdy is obviously better than Trey in terms of overall understanding of the position. He's ready now but hiw much better can he get. Everyone has their limits. In his case it's physical. He understands the game and recognizes defenses. Other than knowing hs receivers better there isn't much more he can do to get better.

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

I remember how excited fans were after Kap's first few games. Same with Jimmy G.

Let us know when it's okay to be excited. Thanks.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.

How much better can his pocket awareness get? How much better can he get at finding open receivers? I'm not saying he can't improve. I'm just saying that Trey has much more room to improve since he's quite a ways behind right now. Trey looks like a rookie. Purdy looks like a guy that's been in the league for 2-3 years.

There is always room for improvement. He's a rookie after all, even if he's playing like a vet. Just because Trey has more room to improved due to the fact he's starting from scratch doesn't really say much.

It is like false economy isn't it? Yeah Purdy will improve only a little bit compared to Lance. In reality Purdy is already high on the scale but Lance is much lower. So if Lance improves a massive 50% and Purdy only improves 20% the end result would still be that Purdy is a better QB. If Lance improves 50% he still would not be as good as Jimmy G for a few years. Catchmaster's argument is not the best I have heard on here. But it is a good argument for a Lanceling. (irony)

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Time is the real test of greatness. I've seen players in all sports be great for a few games or even a couple of seasons. The true greats are good over and over for 5, 19, 15 years. You can find QBs that were better than Brady or Montana for a season but not over 10 years or more.

What are you getting at here? We gotta wait for a decade before we decide if Purdy is the QBOTF?

No but we've still got a small sample size. You could fill a large room with QBs or players at any position who flashed greatness for a few games and then settled into a more middle of the road player. I was responding to (and agreeing) a comment posted by Phoenix. You just can' decide that a QB is great or a bust based on 4 games. Even a season often isn't enough for a full evaluation.

Players develop at different speeds. Some are near their ceiling when the come out of college. Others a still learning a position. Some had good coaching and others had terrible coaching. Purdy is obviously better than Trey in terms of overall understanding of the position. He's ready now but hiw much better can he get. Everyone has their limits. In his case it's physical. He understands the game and recognizes defenses. Other than knowing hs receivers better there isn't much more he can do to get better.

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

I remember how excited fans were after Kap's first few games. Same with Jimmy G.

Let us know when it's okay to be excited. Thanks.

You can be excited all you want but that doesn't mean Purdy will be a star in 2 or 3 years. I'm excited right now too but I've watched enough players in several different sports start out like a wildfire and simmer down to a low flame.

Some people have a hard tome understanding the difference between over the top enthusiasm and cautious optimism. Just like the people who didn't understand why some people wanted an upgrade over Jimmy. They were labeled haters just because they wanted something better. I don't care whether Brock of Trey ends up as the starter as long as they play well and the team wins. All I'm saying is that as of nw, I don't know who will be better in 2 or 3 years. I don't think Kyle does either.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Time is the real test of greatness. I've seen players in all sports be great for a few games or even a couple of seasons. The true greats are good over and over for 5, 19, 15 years. You can find QBs that were better than Brady or Montana for a season but not over 10 years or more.

What are you getting at here? We gotta wait for a decade before we decide if Purdy is the QBOTF?

No but we've still got a small sample size. You could fill a large room with QBs or players at any position who flashed greatness for a few games and then settled into a more middle of the road player. I was responding to (and agreeing) a comment posted by Phoenix. You just can' decide that a QB is great or a bust based on 4 games. Even a season often isn't enough for a full evaluation.

Players develop at different speeds. Some are near their ceiling when the come out of college. Others a still learning a position. Some had good coaching and others had terrible coaching. Purdy is obviously better than Trey in terms of overall understanding of the position. He's ready now but hiw much better can he get. Everyone has their limits. In his case it's physical. He understands the game and recognizes defenses. Other than knowing hs receivers better there isn't much more he can do to get better.

Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.

I remember how excited fans were after Kap's first few games. Same with Jimmy G.

Let us know when it's okay to be excited. Thanks.

You can be excited all you want but that doesn't mean Purdy will be a star in 2 or 3 years. I'm excited right now too but I've watched enough players in several different sports start out like a wildfire and simmer down to a low flame.

Some people have a hard tome understanding the difference between over the top enthusiasm and cautious optimism. Just like the people who didn't understand why some people wanted an upgrade over Jimmy. They were labeled haters just because they wanted something better. I don't care whether Brock of Trey ends up as the starter as long as they play well and the team wins. All I'm saying is that as of nw, I don't know who will be better in 2 or 3 years. I don't think Kyle does either.

Relax, just enjoy the ride.