QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

To be fair, your post implied that he had done enough in 1.5 seasons to deserve that big money deal… almost as if what happens this season doesn't matter.

He can play himself out of that kind of contract this year, and possibly next depending on what happens this offseason.

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
If I am 49'ers management, I would want a couple more years to evaluate Brock. I think a 2 year $40 million deal would be fair.

(first time I agree with Strwy)

Originally posted by Kolohe:
He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

We can argue about how he's played, but it's really beside the point (for now at least). What he does over the next 9+ games, into next season potentially, is going to figure into contract negotiations.

Let's just say for the sake of discussion that he plays inarguably poorly for the rest of the year. In that scenario the team is not simply going to pay him like a top QB because he looked like one in his first 1.5 years starting.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

To be fair, your post implied that he had done enough in 1.5 seasons to deserve that big money deal… almost as if what happens this season doesn't matter.

He can play himself out of that kind of contract this year, and possibly next depending on what happens this offseason.

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

You get paid for potential performance, not prior performance. Obviously. It's the entire reason dudes hold out for guaranteed money… they know an injury diminishes their future potential.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

We can argue about how he's played, but it's really beside the point (for now at least). What he does over the next 9+ games, into next season potentially, is going to figure into contract negotiations.

Let's just say for the sake of discussion that he plays inarguably poorly for the rest of the year. In that scenario the team is not simply going to pay him like a top QB because he looked like one in his first 1.5 years starting.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Don't know what you think is funny. Every bit of playing time before Brock negotiates a new deal is going to factor into that deal. They aren't going to pay him based on his peak alone.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Don't know what you think is funny. Every bit of playing time before Brock negotiates a new deal is going to factor into that deal. They aren't going to pay him based on his peak alone.

You're not wrong. He's a troll

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Don't know what you think is funny. Every bit of playing time before Brock negotiates a new deal is going to factor into that deal. They aren't going to pay him based on his peak alone.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

To be fair, your post implied that he had done enough in 1.5 seasons to deserve that big money deal… almost as if what happens this season doesn't matter.

He can play himself out of that kind of contract this year, and possibly next depending on what happens this offseason.

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

You get paid for potential performance, not prior performance. Obviously. It's the entire reason dudes hold out for guaranteed money… they know an injury diminishes their future potential.

So how do teams pay their players coming off rookie contract? Is it the potential they have shown from PRIOR PERFORMANCE? Or do teams disregard what they've done in previous years and just say oh yah he can play, he looks the part, laser rocket arm, pay him? Lol

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dafuq!!! He gave you 1.5 seasons of solid play, along with how clutch he is in the playoffs. More so than a Kirk Cousins, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. He's earned every dollar of the $60 mil a year contract that's coming his way. If you need more time than, it just shows you haven't been watching the 9ers these past couple of years!!

I have been paying close attention. Unfortunately, you do not get paid based on what you have done in the past. Look at what happened to Colin Kaepernick. This year Brock so far has played okay. We are lucky to be in a bad division. I think giving him 20 million each year for the next 2 years is pretty fair.

Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

I had to read up to understand the context… and it seems you actually think contracts are based off prior performance. That's amusing. Past performance is a factor in determining future performance, but they aren't one in the same.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

We can argue about how he's played, but it's really beside the point (for now at least). What he does over the next 9+ games, into next season potentially, is going to figure into contract negotiations.

Let's just say for the sake of discussion that he plays inarguably poorly for the rest of the year. In that scenario the team is not simply going to pay him like a top QB because he looked like one in his first 1.5 years starting.

I still disagree, because he's shown more times than he hasn't that he still can play. You're gonna discount 9 games over what he has already accomplished? Sure his poor play may factor in his upcoming contract but do you actually think by a lot?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

To be fair, your post implied that he had done enough in 1.5 seasons to deserve that big money deal… almost as if what happens this season doesn't matter.

He can play himself out of that kind of contract this year, and possibly next depending on what happens this offseason.

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

You get paid for potential performance, not prior performance. Obviously. It's the entire reason dudes hold out for guaranteed money… they know an injury diminishes their future potential.

So how do teams pay their players coming off rookie contract? Is it the potential they have shown from PRIOR PERFORMANCE? Or do teams disregard what they've done in previous years and just say oh yah he can play, he looks the part, laser rocket arm, pay him? Lol

Yes prior performance matters. But the bolded above, a statement you made to support your argument, is just plain silly.

aiyuk got his contract based off what the team thought his value would be over the period of the contract. His previous level of play is one factor to consider, as is his age, his coach ability, his raw talent etc etc. "we were thinking you were worth $25million, but you played so well last season, we'll give you $30"…. That's not a thing

and it won't be a thing for purdy. He'll get the contract they think he'll be worth next year and beyond, and they'll use the last couple years as data to pull from.

edit: I don't think you're dumb. I think we're probably saying the same thing but differently

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dafuq!!! He gave you 1.5 seasons of solid play, along with how clutch he is in the playoffs. More so than a Kirk Cousins, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. He's earned every dollar of the $60 mil a year contract that's coming his way. If you need more time than, it just shows you haven't been watching the 9ers these past couple of years!!

I have been paying close attention. Unfortunately, you do not get paid based on what you have done in the past. Look at what happened to Colin Kaepernick. This year Brock so far has played okay. We are lucky to be in a bad division. I think giving him 20 million each year for the next 2 years is pretty fair.

Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

I had to read up to understand the context… and it seems you actually think contracts are based off prior performance. That's amusing. Past performance is a factor in determining future performance, but they aren't one in the same.

That's amusing huh, how doesn't it? Why did the 49ers pay Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Nick Bosa? You people are contradicting yourselves with, what if Brock plays poorly, well that would be past tense right and prior play is it not?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dafuq!!! He gave you 1.5 seasons of solid play, along with how clutch he is in the playoffs. More so than a Kirk Cousins, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. He's earned every dollar of the $60 mil a year contract that's coming his way. If you need more time than, it just shows you haven't been watching the 9ers these past couple of years!!

I have been paying close attention. Unfortunately, you do not get paid based on what you have done in the past. Look at what happened to Colin Kaepernick. This year Brock so far has played okay. We are lucky to be in a bad division. I think giving him 20 million each year for the next 2 years is pretty fair.

Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

I had to read up to understand the context… and it seems you actually think contracts are based off prior performance. That's amusing. Past performance is a factor in determining future performance, but they aren't one in the same.

That's amusing huh, how doesn't it? Why did the 49ers pay Aiyuk, Trent Williams and Nick Bosa? You people are contradicting yourselves with, what if Brock plays poorly, well that would be past tense right and prior play is it not?

Forget it. Read my edit above.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Um yes you do get paid on what you have done in your rookie contract or previous contract. Which is why players holdout. Tell me, did you think Aiyuk got paid for this season or what he did the two previous seasons? Did Trent Williams, CMC and Nick Bosa holdout for what they were gonna do or did they holdout for what they did?

You don't make sense bro.

To be fair, your post implied that he had done enough in 1.5 seasons to deserve that big money deal… almost as if what happens this season doesn't matter.

He can play himself out of that kind of contract this year, and possibly next depending on what happens this offseason.

He has done enough and even with the way he has played this season he still deserves it. Do you expect Brock to all of a sudden turn into Ryan Leaf anytime soon? Brock is on pace for another 4,000 yard season. And if all these other QB's who haven't done s**t in the playoffs got paid then no question Brock Purdy has earned it!!!

You get paid for potential performance, not prior performance. Obviously. It's the entire reason dudes hold out for guaranteed money… they know an injury diminishes their future potential.

So how do teams pay their players coming off rookie contract? Is it the potential they have shown from PRIOR PERFORMANCE? Or do teams disregard what they've done in previous years and just say oh yah he can play, he looks the part, laser rocket arm, pay him? Lol

Yes prior performance matters. But the bolded above, a statement you made to support your argument, is just plain silly.

aiyuk got his contract based off what the team thought his value would be over the period of the contract. His previous level of play is one factor to consider, as is his age, his coach ability, his raw talent etc etc. "we were thinking you were worth $25million, but you played so well last season, we'll give you $30"…. That's not a thing

and it won't be a thing for purdy. He'll get the contract they think he'll be worth next year and beyond, and they'll use the last couple years as data to pull from.

edit: I don't think you're dumb. I think we're probably saying the same thing but differently

Lol more contradiction. You sit here disagreeing with me to the fullest then tell me "Prior performance does matter". Lmfao