Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Did anyone watch the Oregon-NC game last night? North Carolina ran that play where Purdy faked a pass to the left, spun and faked to the right and threw a pass down the n=middle to Kittle for a TD. It looked exactly the same. Of course the announcers were giving Carolina credit for calling such an ingenious play. I guess Gus Johnson doesn't watch many NFL games.
That's not a new play, Walsh ran it with Steve Young back in 87.
So even on that note, Kyle can't take credit for designing it.
Called it at the perfect time though.
Jones!
I don't think Kyle took credit for it. I thought it was odd to see that exact play called so soon after the 49ers ran it. It was pretty obvious that NC saw that game and ran the play at nearly the exact spot on the field. The announcers could have at least said they pulled that one out of then 49ers play book instead of acting like they just drew it uo in practice.
Originally posted by justjim77:
Anyone think he has a shot at rookie of the year? He got the weekly award and I'm not overly impressed with Garrett Wilson or Seattle's RB
My guess is no since he's only played a few games. I think they give out those awards before the post season so that would be a really small sample.
Apparently there's no requirement for how many games played so there's a chance. Meawhile, whos the front runner? I don't believe any offensive rookie is making as much noise as BP.
There's not any requirements for any of these awards. They're usually popularity contests. I have no idea how any other rookies are doing but if there's one in the east coast region he'll have the advantage.
Yeah. BCB is not winning it unless he wins a SB, I'd bet.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Sounds reasonable. The debate will continue as long as both are on the team unless Trey is a total bust or becomes the dominant QB that Kyle envisioned when he drafted him.
Oh yeah, there will ALWAYS be a debate by some. With this fan base we could have Mahomes and some would still call for whoever the backup was. The Montana/Young debate was pretty fierce for a bit, then there were some of the Montana guys that were calling for Bono at one point.
I was on team Young the last couple years of the Montana years. Not because there was anything wrong with Montana. I just saw greater potential for the offense under Young. Was Young the right choice? who knows... we don't know what we would have done with Joe Cool. But it was sure fun to watch Young play.
The bickering is more tolerable when both QBs are good, so let's hope that's how it works out for us.
Trey is the exact opposite. Everything Purdy has now Trey needs to learn. On the other hand, everything Trey has like athleticism and a strong arm can't be learned. Trey has a lot of room for impriovement where Brock might be about as good as he will ever be. That looks good right now but only time will tell if he can continue it.
pfft....Brock has the brain plasticity of a 23yo so he has plenty of room to improve. it's not like he's some 30yo dude.
How much better can his pocket awareness get? How much better can he get at finding open receivers? I'm not saying he can't improve. I'm just saying that Trey has much more room to improve since he's quite a ways behind right now. Trey looks like a rookie. Purdy looks like a guy that's been in the league for 2-3 years.
There is always room for improvement. He's a rookie after all, even if he's playing like a vet. Just because Trey has more room to improved due to the fact he's starting from scratch doesn't really say much.
It is like false economy isn't it? Yeah Purdy will improve only a little bit compared to Lance. In reality Purdy is already high on the scale but Lance is much lower. So if Lance improves a massive 50% and Purdy only improves 20% the end result would still be that Purdy is a better QB. If Lance improves 50% he still would not be as good as Jimmy G for a few years. Catchmaster's argument is not the best I have heard on here. But it is a good argument for a Lanceling. (irony)
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Sounds reasonable. The debate will continue as long as both are on the team unless Trey is a total bust or becomes the dominant QB that Kyle envisioned when he drafted him.
Oh yeah, there will ALWAYS be a debate by some. With this fan base we could have Mahomes and some would still call for whoever the backup was. The Montana/Young debate was pretty fierce for a bit, then there were some of the Montana guys that were calling for Bono at one point.
I was on team Young the last couple years of the Montana years. Not because there was anything wrong with Montana. I just saw greater potential for the offense under Young. Was Young the right choice? who knows... we don't know what we would have done with Joe Cool. But it was sure fun to watch Young play.
The bickering is more tolerable when both QBs are good, so let's hope that's how it works out for us.
The difference with the Montana-Young debate was Joe had won 4 SBs, performing brilliantly in all of therm. Never threw an INT in those SBs. He was the unquestioned leader at that time. The last couple of years were tough because Jie was hurting. Steve was the better option by that time.
In the current argument, neither one has won anything yet. Let's hope that changes in a few weeks. Tired of waiting for that 6th trophy.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Sounds reasonable. The debate will continue as long as both are on the team unless Trey is a total bust or becomes the dominant QB that Kyle envisioned when he drafted him.
Oh yeah, there will ALWAYS be a debate by some. With this fan base we could have Mahomes and some would still call for whoever the backup was. The Montana/Young debate was pretty fierce for a bit, then there were some of the Montana guys that were calling for Bono at one point.
I was on team Young the last couple years of the Montana years. Not because there was anything wrong with Montana. I just saw greater potential for the offense under Young. Was Young the right choice? who knows... we don't know what we would have done with Joe Cool. But it was sure fun to watch Young play.
The bickering is more tolerable when both QBs are good, so let's hope that's how it works out for us.
The difference with the Montana-Young debate was Joe had won 4 SBs, performing brilliantly in all of therm. Never threw an INT in those SBs. He was the unquestioned leader at that time. The last couple of years were tough because Jie was hurting. Steve was the better option by that time.
In the current argument, neither one has won anything yet. Let's hope that changes in a few weeks. Tired of waiting for that 6th trophy.
oh, I'm not comparing the two situations directly. They are definitely different. Just referencing it as evidence of there always being a debate.
That 6th is like the monkey on all our backs. Hopefully it's this year. I think the team has a solid chance of getting to the SB. Winning it will be tougher, but if they play like they are right now they can beat anybody.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Your improvement numbers are arbitrary. None of us knows how much Lance will improve or if Purdy will continue to play this well. Trey may only improve a little but he could make huge strides if he gets enough reps. You can't deny that we've seen many QBs have a few good starts and then begin to have problems. It's also just as common to see a young QB struggle for a year or even two before the light goes on. If Purdy continues to play at his current level and even improves some, then it will be hard for Trey to get the reps he needs. Kyle was willing to give him those reps thus t]years since he had decided to move on from an injured JG. Different story next year.
Two years from now we could have one good QB, two good QBs or none. The future is always an unknown. Just like the people that try to predict scores every week, nobody can predict how good a player will be in 2 years. We like to assume that he will improve but unfortunately that doesn't always happen. Things happen that nobody has control over. Things like injuries can set back a players progress. We saw it with Jimmy and we've seen it with Trey already.
I hope we end up with 2 good players that can guide the team when called upon. That would be ideal to have 2 young QBs that can play. Unfortunately one would probably leave for free agency or get traded. This is 2022 and QB depth is just a fantasy because of the cap and free agency.
Both players have years left on their contracts. We don't have to worry about free agency or having to worry about cap implications for at least two more years.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That hold on Bosa to set up that drive that started the comeback. In fact, all the holding that O line did the last 8 mintues of the game. The BS OPI on Kittle that took points off the board. The late hit out of bounds on Jimmy that was never called. That helmet to facemask hit on Jimmy that was never called. The defensive holding on the chiefs DB's that were never called. f**k the the chiefs and f**k the NFL and their refs.
I was watching this video today and I was reading the comments. 11matt11 he watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, he said Purdy has a special "it" factor.
"As a non ISU fan who watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, like Dak and Josh Allen, Brock completely transcended the School's football program with his play. Purdy is doing nothing new with the Niners, that he hadn't already done at ISU. Playing in the Big 12, Purdy was almost always on an inferior team, with an inferior OL, and an even more inferior defense, so he had no choice but to make plays for the Cyclones to win. Scouts seemed to mock that in him for some reason? They did the same to Maholmes. (NFL QB scouting needs to be culled, but that's for another time) Brock ran away from the pressure and made plays for 4 years, but when his OL line actually held, he was amazing. Now he has an excellent OL, and excellent Offensive skill players who can separate. He doesn't have to be the main and special reason why they win. Purdy also has incredible competitive fire, scores extremely high on emotional intelligence, and has been trained to overcome adversity just by playing at ISU. And if the Niners do fall behind, he has a special "it" to bring them back, if needed. We may be seeing the start of something very special here, that's a lot more than a fill in."
Originally posted by braap49er:
I was watching this video today and I was reading the comments. 11matt11 he watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, he said Purdy has a special "it" factor.
"As a non ISU fan who watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, like Dak and Josh Allen, Brock completely transcended the School's football program with his play. Purdy is doing nothing new with the Niners, that he hadn't already done at ISU. Playing in the Big 12, Purdy was almost always on an inferior team, with an inferior OL, and an even more inferior defense, so he had no choice but to make plays for the Cyclones to win. Scouts seemed to mock that in him for some reason? They did the same to Maholmes. (NFL QB scouting needs to be culled, but that's for another time) Brock ran away from the pressure and made plays for 4 years, but when his OL line actually held, he was amazing. Now he has an excellent OL, and excellent Offensive skill players who can separate. He doesn't have to be the main and special reason why they win. Purdy also has incredible competitive fire, scores extremely high on emotional intelligence, and has been trained to overcome adversity just by playing at ISU. And if the Niners do fall behind, he has a special "it" to bring them back, if needed. We may be seeing the start of something very special here, that's a lot more than a fill in."
Originally posted by braap49er:
I was watching this video today and I was reading the comments. 11matt11 he watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, he said Purdy has a special "it" factor.
"As a non ISU fan who watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, like Dak and Josh Allen, Brock completely transcended the School's football program with his play. Purdy is doing nothing new with the Niners, that he hadn't already done at ISU. Playing in the Big 12, Purdy was almost always on an inferior team, with an inferior OL, and an even more inferior defense, so he had no choice but to make plays for the Cyclones to win. Scouts seemed to mock that in him for some reason? They did the same to Maholmes. (NFL QB scouting needs to be culled, but that's for another time) Brock ran away from the pressure and made plays for 4 years, but when his OL line actually held, he was amazing. Now he has an excellent OL, and excellent Offensive skill players who can separate. He doesn't have to be the main and special reason why they win. Purdy also has incredible competitive fire, scores extremely high on emotional intelligence, and has been trained to overcome adversity just by playing at ISU. And if the Niners do fall behind, he has a special "it" to bring them back, if needed. We may be seeing the start of something very special here, that's a lot more than a fill in."
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The difference with the Montana-Young debate was Joe had won 4 SBs, performing brilliantly in all of therm. Never threw an INT in those SBs. He was the unquestioned leader at that time. The last couple of years were tough because Jie was hurting. Steve was the better option by that time.
In the current argument, neither one has won anything yet. Let's hope that changes in a few weeks. Tired of waiting for that 6th trophy.
Preach. I still haven't gotten over that. Could you imagine the webzone those years? Especially losing to the Cowboys. Now I really hope we get to play them again these playoffs and bury them.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That hold on Bosa to set up that drive that started the comeback. In fact, all the holding that O line did the last 8 mintues of the game. The BS OPI on Kittle that took points off the board. The late hit out of bounds on Jimmy that was never called. That helmet to facemask hit on Jimmy that was never called. The defensive holding on the chiefs DB's that were never called. f**k the the chiefs and f**k the NFL and their refs.
Ok so I'm not crazy, YACBros it seems you and I saw the same. f**k the Chiefs and those refs!!!
Also I'd like to add that the refs didn't call any holding calls on the Chiefs O-line the whole game.
49ers lost that game before they stepped on the field.
Originally posted by braap49er:
I was watching this video today and I was reading the comments. 11matt11 he watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, he said Purdy has a special "it" factor.
"As a non ISU fan who watched Purdy for 4 years at ISU, like Dak and Josh Allen, Brock completely transcended the School's football program with his play. Purdy is doing nothing new with the Niners, that he hadn't already done at ISU. Playing in the Big 12, Purdy was almost always on an inferior team, with an inferior OL, and an even more inferior defense, so he had no choice but to make plays for the Cyclones to win. Scouts seemed to mock that in him for some reason? They did the same to Maholmes. (NFL QB scouting needs to be culled, but that's for another time) Brock ran away from the pressure and made plays for 4 years, but when his OL line actually held, he was amazing. Now he has an excellent OL, and excellent Offensive skill players who can separate. He doesn't have to be the main and special reason why they win. Purdy also has incredible competitive fire, scores extremely high on emotional intelligence, and has been trained to overcome adversity just by playing at ISU. And if the Niners do fall behind, he has a special "it" to bring them back, if needed. We may be seeing the start of something very special here, that's a lot more than a fill in."
I could watch these breakdowns of Purdy's plays endlessly. It took a bit to get used to the Irish accent, but after a while watching these plays it's poetic.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I could watch these breakdowns of Purdy's plays endlessly. It took a bit to get used to the Irish accent, but after a while watching these plays it's poetic.
love how he tries to move linebackers and safeties
idk if thats designed into the play or he just chooses to do it that way
