QB Brock Purdy Thread

I think Brock is getting sick of the story. He seems to be over it and just wants to talk football, just wants to talk about this week. I can't say I blame him.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nope. We cannot put up 30 against mid to bad defenses just yet but we can put up 30+ against top 5 pass defenses (TB, WAS).

I was talking about the ability to count on it consistently.

Also a key difference between putting up 30 against TB, or Washington, versus teams like KC, Buf, and Cin, is all the assists those teams bad offenses will provide in terms of turnovers and field position. Look at Washington last week. Turnovers, bad decisions on 4th down... much harder to put up 30 on a team with an offense that holds the ball and successfully moves and scores.

Josh Allen has 18 turnovers this season

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nope. We cannot put up 30 against mid to bad defenses just yet but we can put up 30+ against top 5 pass defenses (TB, WAS).

I was talking about the ability to count on it consistently.

Also a key difference between putting up 30 against TB, or Washington, versus teams like KC, Buf, and Cin, is all the assists those teams bad offenses will provide in terms of turnovers and field position. Look at Washington last week. Turnovers, bad decisions on 4th down... much harder to put up 30 on a team with an offense that holds the ball and successfully moves and scores.

We should of put up 30+ on KC earlier this year but we went 2 of 5 in the redzone and turned the ball over. We also only put up 13 points on a similar team to the commanders and bucs in the saints inspite of the defense shutting them out. I just think with Purdy at QB, those days of struggling to score TD's are behind us now.

Originally posted by boast:
Josh Allen has 18 turnovers this season

Sure, and our defense can turnover the best offenses.

On the flip side, Buffalo's defense is also good and would be much more challenging than KC's on paper. Only 1 team has managed 30 on them, with the Dolphins falling just short in a bad weather game.

I think the point I'm making is easy to understand, and borne out in evidence with what we've seen.

Our offense is great. I just wouldn't bank on scoring 30 plus as a given in any game... especially against teams with elite offenses. Offense, defense, it's all connected. Complimentary football.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nope. We cannot put up 30 against mid to bad defenses just yet but we can put up 30+ against top 5 pass defenses (TB, WAS).

I was talking about the ability to count on it consistently.

Also a key difference between putting up 30 against TB, or Washington, versus teams like KC, Buf, and Cin, is all the assists those teams bad offenses will provide in terms of turnovers and field position. Look at Washington last week. Turnovers, bad decisions on 4th down... much harder to put up 30 on a team with an offense that holds the ball and successfully moves and scores.

Josh Allen has 18 turnovers this season

Allen hasn't been having a great year but he' so athletic and has that huge arm that enables him to overcome a lot of those mistakes.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
We should of put up 30+ on KC earlier this year but we went 2 of 5 in the redzone and turned the ball over. We also only put up 13 points on a similar team to the commanders and bucs in the saints inspite of the defense shutting them out. I just think with Purdy at QB, those days of struggling to score TD's are behind us now.

I agree. It certainly seems that way and I'm all aboard the Purdy train. Just want to keep seeing it... it's been 4 games.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nope. We cannot put up 30 against mid to bad defenses just yet but we can put up 30+ against top 5 pass defenses (TB, WAS).

I was talking about the ability to count on it consistently.

Also a key difference between putting up 30 against TB, or Washington, versus teams like KC, Buf, and Cin, is all the assists those teams bad offenses will provide in terms of turnovers and field position. Look at Washington last week. Turnovers, bad decisions on 4th down... much harder to put up 30 on a team with an offense that holds the ball and successfully moves and scores.

Josh Allen has 18 turnovers this season

Allen hasn't been having a great year but he' so athletic and has that huge arm that enables him to overcome a lot of those mistakes.

He hasn't got a ring

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not being negative to point out that he has a weak arm. It's uplifting because it shows how he's managed to be successful in spite of his disability.

We have seen some balls die on him these last few games and we haven't really seen him attempt many difficult throws that would require him to throw with higher velocity.

As to the former, that's simply untrue.

As to the latter: Proof? Cite? Video? TIA.

He's probably talking about the long TD to Aiyuk against TB where there was pressure in Brocks face and he took a hit as he was throwing it, and Aiyuk had to wait for the ball. So something that would happen to any other qb in the same situation.

That's actually not one of the throws I was talking about. They were against Seattle and Washington in the first half.

Oh, so you are going to judge his arm strength based on games he played in with a partial tear of his oblique? Do you understand throwing mechanics at all?

Seems like some are manufacturing things to nit pick No one claims BCB has a cannon but anyone claiming he lacks arm strength to make all the throws should back that up with evidence IMO

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Jimmy G played backyard football in 2017 and looked good.

He looked bad in 2018 before the injury. Maybe that has to do with him not trying to play under Kyle's system but hasn't masted it yet.

I always felt like 2017 showed Jimmie's natural talents. For whatever reason, he became bogged down it seemed once he really got until the system (like he is thinking too much). It may just be he's never the same after his knee injury, very passively. Alex smiths arm was never the same after his shoulder injury.

He was good on his second-reaction improvisational throws early in his career, and had good mobility within the pocket. Maybe the ACL injury impacted his mobility, but he has loss that second-reaction play making ability over the years.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Nope. We cannot put up 30 against mid to bad defenses just yet but we can put up 30+ against top 5 pass defenses (TB, WAS).

I was talking about the ability to count on it consistently.

Also a key difference between putting up 30 against TB, or Washington, versus teams like KC, Buf, and Cin, is all the assists those teams bad offenses will provide in terms of turnovers and field position. Look at Washington last week. Turnovers, bad decisions on 4th down... much harder to put up 30 on a team with an offense that holds the ball and successfully moves and scores.

Josh Allen has 18 turnovers this season

Allen hasn't been having a great year but he' so athletic and has that huge arm that enables him to overcome a lot of those mistakes.

He hasn't got a ring

To be fair, he only only becoming great in his 3rd season, so he only had 2 chances excluding this season. He really had done everything possible to win against KC last season in the playoff.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Seems like some are manufacturing things to nit pick No one claims BCB has a cannon but anyone claiming he lacks arm strength to make all the throws should back that up with evidence IMO

Apparently his arm is a "disability"

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not being negative to point out that he has a weak arm. It's uplifting because it shows how he's managed to be successful in spite of his disability.

We have seen some balls die on him these last few games and we haven't really seen him attempt many difficult throws that would require him to throw with higher velocity.

As to the former, that's simply untrue.

As to the latter: Proof? Cite? Video? TIA.

He's probably talking about the long TD to Aiyuk against TB where there was pressure in Brocks face and he took a hit as he was throwing it, and Aiyuk had to wait for the ball. So something that would happen to any other qb in the same situation.

That's actually not one of the throws I was talking about. They were against Seattle and Washington in the first half.

Oh, so you are going to judge his arm strength based on games he played in with a partial tear of his oblique? Do you understand throwing mechanics at all?

I'm going to judge him by what he does. It's not like there was a significant or noticeable drop in his arm strength in those two games either. He wasn't firing rockets against Miami and TB. His worst throw might have been the one against Miami where he tried to hit Deebo in the endzone.

He has a weak arm. That's ok. Many successful QBs have overcome that. Tua has one. Old Drew Brees had one. We don't need to pretend that he's perfect to acknowledge that he's played really well.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
He was good on his second-reaction improvisational throws early in his career, and had good mobility within the pocket. Maybe the ACL injury impacted his mobility, but he has loss that second-reaction play making ability over the years.

Jimmy was good in '17 but people forget he got away with a handful of would be INTs

He really improved on dropping that INT rate this year

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Oregon49erfan:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Disp:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's not being negative to point out that he has a weak arm. It's uplifting because it shows how he's managed to be successful in spite of his disability.

We have seen some balls die on him these last few games and we haven't really seen him attempt many difficult throws that would require him to throw with higher velocity.

As to the former, that's simply untrue.

As to the latter: Proof? Cite? Video? TIA.

He's probably talking about the long TD to Aiyuk against TB where there was pressure in Brocks face and he took a hit as he was throwing it, and Aiyuk had to wait for the ball. So something that would happen to any other qb in the same situation.

That's actually not one of the throws I was talking about. They were against Seattle and Washington in the first half.

Oh, so you are going to judge his arm strength based on games he played in with a partial tear of his oblique? Do you understand throwing mechanics at all?

I'm going to judge him by what he does. It's not like there was a significant or noticeable drop in his arm strength in those two games either. He wasn't firing rockets against Miami and TB. His worst throw might have been the one against Miami where he tried to hit Deebo in the endzone.

He has a weak arm. That's ok. Many successful QBs have overcome that. Tua has one. Old Drew Brees had one. We don't need to pretend that he's perfect to acknowledge that he's played really well.

I'm fine if he can't hit the deep Out from the far hash (power) since he can drop it in a bucket up the sideline (touch).

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I'm going to judge him by what he does. It's not like there was a significant or noticeable drop in his arm strength in those two games either. He wasn't firing rockets against Miami and TB. His worst throw might have been the one against Miami where he tried to hit Deebo in the endzone.

He has a weak arm. That's ok. Many successful QBs have overcome that. Tua has one. Old Drew Brees had one. We don't need to pretend that he's perfect to acknowledge that he's played really well.

And I bet you will always bring up his arm strength every chance you get!