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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Isn't that what all the naysayers said last year? If he didn't have the "Avengers" that he wouldn't be that good. We all got mad at Steven Ruiz (The Ringer) talking about its talent and scheme and not Purdy. And now its oh all the talent isn't there that is why he is struggling. I want my franchise QB to win no matter who is out there. That is why he gets the big bucks right?? IMO a franchise QB should be winning 10-11 games each year just based on his skill alone.

So Joe Burrow is not a franchise QB?

Joe Burrow has 30 TDs and 5 INTs with a 107 QB rating and will probably finish with his best numbers of his career. Cincy currently has the #9 offense and #27 defense. Burrow just lost a game 38-44 where he had 112 QB rating and 3 TDs. There are always weird seasons. Prior to this year in 16 games seasons he went 10-6 and 12-4

And his team is 4-8. In 23 they were 9-8 and browning had a better win %
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Dec 2, 2024 at 1:58 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by communist:
after the first 3-4 games I would have second your post.
But now? No...to me, either a QB has got the potential to be a franchise qb or he does not. That should be determined within the first 2-3 years, not after 5-10. in despite of the first two years I don't see a franchise qb in him (anymore) , he doesn't have the mindset for that.

WHAT?

His mental focus is his strongest point. Everyone on the team comments about his focus and mental toughness. His biggest problem is the five guys that squat in front of him on every play...along with injuries on the receiving core.
It's not all Brock, but he's also making it harder on himself by hesitating.

his time to throw was the highest in the league, haven't checked since GB but he's had time. A lot more time that the last two years. It's not all on the OL

A large part of his hesitation is the lack of his go-to guys, CMC and BA, on the field. It seems Kittle has been used to block more this year than last.
So you agree it Purdy also. He has time and guys are open

No, my point was the opposite. He takes extra time waiting for receivers to open up. In the past, the ball was coming out on time because Aiyuk, Kittle, and CMC were getting separation and doing so on time.
If you want to use the separation excuse you can, but with him holding the ball too long is his issue.

The separation excuse worked earlier in the season, it can't now. film has shown that the ball should have been thrown sooner or Purdy should have moved off to another open option. He just not making quick decisions anymore and holding on to the ball a lot longer than we're used to.

There's nothing to be upset about, that's what's just happening currently. Hopefully it's just some growing pains and he gets it back together next year

When Kittle starts publicly complaining that he is often open but not targeted. You have a serious problem.
We are in big trouble when Kittle starts complaining about things.

He is usually a company man.
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
When Kittle starts publicly complaining that he is often open but not targeted. You have a serious problem.

targeted when, in a blizzard? he did a three stooges routine on that target that was flush right on him.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by communist:
after the first 3-4 games I would have second your post.
But now? No...to me, either a QB has got the potential to be a franchise qb or he does not. That should be determined within the first 2-3 years, not after 5-10. in despite of the first two years I don't see a franchise qb in him (anymore) , he doesn't have the mindset for that.

WHAT?

His mental focus is his strongest point. Everyone on the team comments about his focus and mental toughness. His biggest problem is the five guys that squat in front of him on every play...along with injuries on the receiving core.
It's not all Brock, but he's also making it harder on himself by hesitating.

his time to throw was the highest in the league, haven't checked since GB but he's had time. A lot more time that the last two years. It's not all on the OL

A large part of his hesitation is the lack of his go-to guys, CMC and BA, on the field. It seems Kittle has been used to block more this year than last.
So you agree it Purdy also. He has time and guys are open

No, my point was the opposite. He takes extra time waiting for receivers to open up. In the past, the ball was coming out on time because Aiyuk, Kittle, and CMC were getting separation and doing so on time.
If you want to use the separation excuse you can, but with him holding the ball too long is his issue.

The separation excuse worked earlier in the season, it can't now. film has shown that the ball should have been thrown sooner or Purdy should have moved off to another open option. He just not making quick decisions anymore and holding on to the ball a lot longer than we're used to.

There's nothing to be upset about, that's what's just happening currently. Hopefully it's just some growing pains and he gets it back together next year

I'm not upset. I am saying the reason he is holding the ball so long is because he has not yet reached the point where he can trust his options as he could in the past.

Remember, due to injury, he hadn't practiced in two weeks. That compounded the problem that was made worse by the fact JJ hadn't practiced much either, and he is a contested catch guy, not a separation guy...if that makes sense.
there are a lot factors.. but for sure he isn't playing like his normal self

We agree on that. I am only pointing out the reasons I see why that is.
We are Broken.
Originally posted by dj43:
We agree on that. I am only pointing out the reasons I see why that is.

draft some pass pro and guys who get open and have kyle focus solely on offense and generating points and play design.

I like this tweet. Plus Id add in that Brock is banged up as well.

I don't think there's much to take away from last nights game that we didn't already know. Brock is limited physically, hurt, and doesn't play very well generally in bad weather games.
Brock Purdy needs to figure his grip in these kinds of conditions. Listening to David Lombardi's post game and he mentioned Purdy is almost guaranteed to have a ball slip out of his hands in inclement weather games. This guy needs to spend parts of the offseason dipping his hand in a bucket of water and figuring out how to deal with it.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by communist:
after the first 3-4 games I would have second your post.
But now? No...to me, either a QB has got the potential to be a franchise qb or he does not. That should be determined within the first 2-3 years, not after 5-10. in despite of the first two years I don't see a franchise qb in him (anymore) , he doesn't have the mindset for that.

WHAT?

His mental focus is his strongest point. Everyone on the team comments about his focus and mental toughness. His biggest problem is the five guys that squat in front of him on every play...along with injuries on the receiving core.
It's not all Brock, but he's also making it harder on himself by hesitating.

his time to throw was the highest in the league, haven't checked since GB but he's had time. A lot more time that the last two years. It's not all on the OL

A large part of his hesitation is the lack of his go-to guys, CMC and BA, on the field. It seems Kittle has been used to block more this year than last.
So you agree it Purdy also. He has time and guys are open

No, my point was the opposite. He takes extra time waiting for receivers to open up. In the past, the ball was coming out on time because Aiyuk, Kittle, and CMC were getting separation and doing so on time.
If you want to use the separation excuse you can, but with him holding the ball too long is his issue.

The separation excuse worked earlier in the season, it can't now. film has shown that the ball should have been thrown sooner or Purdy should have moved off to another open option. He just not making quick decisions anymore and holding on to the ball a lot longer than we're used to.

There's nothing to be upset about, that's what's just happening currently. Hopefully it's just some growing pains and he gets it back together next year

I'm not upset. I am saying the reason he is holding the ball so long is because he has not yet reached the point where he can trust his options as he could in the past.

Remember, due to injury, he hadn't practiced in two weeks. That compounded the problem that was made worse by the fact JJ hadn't practiced much either, and he is a contested catch guy, not a separation guy...if that makes sense.
there are a lot factors.. but for sure he isn't playing like his normal self

We agree on that. I am only pointing out the reasons I see why that is.
like i said there nothing wrong with thinking it's a separation issue, but that has been proven it's not the total issue. Do i still believe in Purdy, I do... for now
I don't understand why Brock flat out can't perform in unideal weather conditions. Didn't he play in Iowa for 4 years, wtf???
Originally posted by Gemini10:
I don't understand why Brock flat out can't perform in unideal weather conditions. Didn't he play in Iowa for 4 years, wtf???

he doesn't have big hands or great grip. just not his strong suit. every guy has strengths and weaknesses.
Call him, Brock "Small Hands" Purdy.
Originally posted by Gemini10:
I don't understand why Brock flat out can't perform in unideal weather conditions. Didn't he play in Iowa for 4 years, wtf???

My understanding he didn't actually have many bad weather games in college. A couple games in the rain I believe.
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Call him, Brock "Small Hands" Purdy.

His hand size is exactly the same as Pat Mahomes.

Burrow has even smaller hands.
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