QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
not gonna quote that long of a post but #3 is bold. To bold. Even if Mahomes is overrated that's still some real homer take

There is no metric by which Stat Paddy is even in contention for being the best QB in football. He's 32nd in air yards per attempt, 32nd in air yards per completion, and has mediocre numbers all around despite playing for the best play caller of the century. Tyreek Hill went to Miami and now Tua's numbers look like Stat Paddy's used to.

Stat Paddy gets carried by defense and special teams.

Okay so Purdy is better than Burrow? Allen? Lamar? Stroud? Daniels?

Before this season started.. no doubt i would want him over those guys

Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Before this season started.. no doubt i would want him over those guys

Lol

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
not gonna quote that long of a post but #3 is bold. To bold. Even if Mahomes is overrated that's still some real homer take

There is no metric by which Stat Paddy is even in contention for being the best QB in football. He's 32nd in air yards per attempt, 32nd in air yards per completion, and has mediocre numbers all around despite playing for the best play caller of the century. Tyreek Hill went to Miami and now Tua's numbers look like Stat Paddy's used to.

Stat Paddy gets carried by defense and special teams.

Okay so Purdy is better than Burrow? Allen? Lamar? Stroud? Daniels?

Before this season started.. no doubt i would want him over those guys

🤨

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

Hence signing Cousins / Darnold. Low expectations until we find the next "one".

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

Hence signing Cousins / Darnold. Low expectations until we find the next "one".

That could be 10 years. Are the fans willing to settle for 10 years of mediocrity? I doubt it. They're revolting after one bad season.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

Hence signing Cousins / Darnold. Low expectations until we find the next "one".

That could be 10 years. Are the fans willing to settle for 10 years of mediocrity? I doubt it. They're revolting after one bad season.

We haven't won a SB in 30 years. That includes 8 years under Kyle Shanahan. Clearly the current model isn't working unless perennial playoff losses counts as "success". We had a loaded team….twice…and still came up short. Gotta take the Andy Reid approach. Find a QB that is willing to break the rules and play outside the playbook. Reid couldn't win a Super Bowl until he found that guy. It'll be the same with Kyle, so better to start looking sooner rather than later…

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
Hoyer, Beathard, and Mullins were horrible NFL QB's. Because everyone likes to compare Kyle to Andy Reid, here's a look at who Andy Reid has had as his QB throughout his career:

1. Donovan MacNabb
2. Kevin Kolb
3. Michael Vick
4. Alex Smith
5. Patrick Mahomes

Compare that to Shanahan:

1. Jimmy G
2. Nick Mullens
3. CJ Beathard
4. Trey Lance
5. Brock Purdy
6. Hoyer

You know, sometimes having great timing is all you really need. Look at Harbaugh, he waits around in college until a team with a top 5 QB has a job opening then decides to return. Timing is everything.

1. Bust without Reid. His numbers fell off a cliff when played for none other than Kyle Shanahan after having among the best statistical seasons of his career the year before with Reid.

2. Obviously garbage. System collegiate QB and a bad pick.

3. Horrible accuracy. Had an MVP caliber year in 2010 thanks to Reid scheming things wide open for him. Nobody else could've gotten Michael Prick to even 57% completion.

4. Mediocre for 8 years in SF. Becomes a 3-time Pro Bowler with Reid. Returns to mediocrity in Washington.

5. Would be a bust on most other teams. Not a great QB despite the media propaganda. His numbers are flat-out lousy the last 2 seasons despite playing for the best play caller of this century.

lol this is rare level glazing...Andy Reid is that you?

Dude at 34 goes from Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Lesean McCoy, Brent Celek in the prime of their careers and goes to an offense revolving around an aging Santana Moss with Chris Cooley and Clinton Portis at the end of their career and suddenly we're shocked that McNabb isn't as good?

And we want to pretend that Alex Smith wasn't totally f'd over here or that he didn't look much better before Kap took over for him? Also he was playing pretty good in Washington with virtually no real weapons before the whole...almost losing a leg thing. But yes let's just ignore those things and pretend it was all Andy Reid.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

All to get the next Lance.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
All to get the next Lance.

yes. that's what happened we got pick 12 and saw it as some opportunity to light 3 years of ones on fire for nothing.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
All to get the next Lance.

yes. that's what happened we got pick 12 and saw it as some opportunity to light 3 years of ones on fire for nothing.

The idea to get a top tier QB made sense at the time. Every franchise should make that type of move if they think their guy isn't giving them the best chance to win games for the long haul.

I simply don't think we're at that position right now and Purdy to me is a much better player than Jimmy was.