QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Given all the financial baggage we're carrying with injured players (Aiyuk, Trent, CMC), it would not be wise to give Brock a max contract. For one he's already sustained 2 injuries on his throwing arm. Second, he has not proven that he can carry the team when key parts of his supporting cast is missing. Three, he can't play when it's raining or snowing.

This may sound heinous. But listening to some sound bites, if Brock won't takes a smaller contract going into next season, I wouldn't be opposed to letting him walk and signing a bridge QB like Cousins 🤢 or Darnold 🤢 then finding someone through the draft to develop for the next 2 years before handing over the reigns.

this team is about to see a lot of offseason changes, and we need the money to plug some big holes. Brock's insane contract could compromise that, and if we think he can't overcome certain flaws on this team why pay him that much money and mortgage the future…

Brock is signed through next season so if they can't reach an agreement he can play out his contract and be a UFA in 2026. They could sign a bridge QB and draft and develop someone else but that's easier said than done.

If he's willing to play out his current contract, I think that's fine. I think Graziani even wrote an article that it's not an absolute necessity to sign him this offseason. But then again if Brock plays hardball and gives the front office a hard time, then I'd rather not pay him max because that's just the trend nowadays. If we sign him to a max contract, we're pretty much resolved to being a mediocre team for the next foreseeable future because I don't think he elevates the team like guys such as Allen or Mahomes do.

I agree but let's face it. There just aren't that many QBs like Mahomes and Allen. To get a really great prospect they'll need to finish in the bottom 5 and then be lucky enough to have it happen on a year that's loaded with QB talent.

Hence signing Cousins / Darnold. Low expectations until we find the next "one".

That could be 10 years. Are the fans willing to settle for 10 years of mediocrity? I doubt it. They're revolting after one bad season.

It's proven that we can win games, and even lead the league in scoring, with Brock if the setting is right. That's half the battle right there. You let him get away, we could be in QB hell for a long time. Impatient fans always see greener grass on the other side, but one bad season doesn't erase what we've seen Kyle and Brock do together.

Originally posted by BP13:
It's proven that we can win games, and even lead the league in scoring, with Brock if the setting is right. That's half the battle right there. You let him get away, we could be in QB hell for a long time. Impatient fans always see greener grass on the other side, but one bad season doesn't erase what we've seen Kyle and Brock do together.

gonna need a lot of work. i 100% think we build around brock. shanny needs to freshen his concepts. OL needs work. WR room needs remade. RB room needs new depth. maybe this Izzy will stick around.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BP13:
It's proven that we can win games, and even lead the league in scoring, with Brock if the setting is right. That's half the battle right there. You let him get away, we could be in QB hell for a long time. Impatient fans always see greener grass on the other side, but one bad season doesn't erase what we've seen Kyle and Brock do together.

gonna need a lot of work. i 100% think we build around brock. shanny needs to freshen his concepts. OL needs work. WR room needs remade. RB room needs new depth. maybe this Izzy will stick around.

Absolutely agree. Much work to be done. I also think a contract extension for Brock won't be as bad as some fans think. He will get a fair offer, but I think the structure of the contract would be very team friendly.
SF has been in a QB black hole for over 20 years before Brock, and he might not be great, but he can be really good, and I think you don't move on from "good" just because he's not "great."

Originally posted by BP13:
Absolutely agree. Much work to be done. I also think a contract extension for Brock won't be as bad as some fans think. He will get a fair offer, but I think the structure of the contract would be very team friendly.
SF has been in a QB black hole for over 20 years before Brock, and he might not be great, but he can be really good, and I think you don't move on from "good" just because he's not "great."

i would say zero chance the team moves on right now. just not gonna happen.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by BP13:
It's proven that we can win games, and even lead the league in scoring, with Brock if the setting is right. That's half the battle right there. You let him get away, we could be in QB hell for a long time. Impatient fans always see greener grass on the other side, but one bad season doesn't erase what we've seen Kyle and Brock do together.

gonna need a lot of work. i 100% think we build around brock. shanny needs to freshen his concepts. OL needs work. WR room needs remade. RB room needs new depth. maybe this Izzy will stick around.

Agreed. The question is whether signing Brock and making all those improvements you cited (plus some more) are mutually exclusive. In other words, does signing Brock to a max deal take away from other areas that need improvement. If that's the case then you have to hope that Brock is willing to take a team friendly deal. And although he's a swell guy, recent memory tells us that all our swell guys acted like a*****es when it came to contract negotiations (except for Lenoire)…

The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

yessir i expect that fully. when you invest big in the QB, get protection and weapons. with deebo not around much longer probably and BA coming off injury need to get protection and upgrade at WR.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

We need a center and a future OT. I think the OG play is fine, they can always develop there, shouldn't be a high pick or a ton of money there imo.

they need to take care of the DL and get some greedy playmakers in here.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

They need a better center. They need someone that can get the proper protections setup. Sure they can get another LG but they don't need to invest high end capital or $ there.

they need a future OT and someone to compete with Colton. They need to revamp the DL and get young fresh/hungry playmakers up in here. Ross in S/LBer help.

youth movement!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

They need a better center. They need someone that can get the proper protections setup. Sure they can get another LG but they don't need to invest high end capital or $ there.

they need a future OT and someone to compete with Colton. They need to revamp the DL and get young fresh/hungry playmakers up in here. Ross in S/LBer help.

youth movement!

Having a season like this is hard to watch but sometimes they're needed. They're likely to be picking in the top 15 and maybe the top 10 in each round. That makes a huge difference in the players available compared to where they've been drafting. That's 15 or 20 players in EACH round that they will have a chance to choose that haven't been available. They still need to have some luck and hope the guys work out but it certainly gives them a better chance to rebuild that O line and add help on defense.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Having a season like this is hard to watch but sometimes they're needed. They're likely to be picking in the top 15 and maybe the top 10 in each round. That makes a huge difference in the players available compared to where they've been drafting. That's 15 or 20 players in EACH round that they will have a chance to choose that haven't been available. They still need to have some luck and hope the guys work out but it certainly gives them a better chance to rebuild that O line and add help on defense.

Yeah it does help out. I feel like overall they had a damn good draft this past season and those were all late rd picks each rd.

I actually hope they sign a legit center and focus on DL/OT/LB and some collection of specialty playmakers…a burner or RZ threat at receiver would be nice.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

Exactly right. Even with most of the offense regressing(including Kyle and Brock) it's not like we're seeing a complete disaster play at QB. It's just not at the level we've seen Brock play most of his career.

People want their version of Mahomes, Allen or Lamar here but that's not the only way to play QB. People have been grading Brock on a crazy scale almost his whole career - some because they felt he prevented the team from playing Lance. Some because they're too lazy to look beyond the shiny weapons Brock had playing with him to realize the OL was subpar. And now people are too busy about the hypothetical salary he MAY make vs what he's doing on a 7th round rookie deal with underperforming roster around him.

Priority should 100% be to improve that OL.