QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by fropwns:
The kid is the future. He might make a little more than you like, he make a little less. But he is our guy.

The best thing they could do to ensure his future success is to build him a serious OL, especially on the interior.

yessir i expect that fully. when you invest big in the QB, get protection and weapons. with deebo not around much longer probably and BA coming off injury need to get protection and upgrade at WR.

Gentlemen, we are in agreement.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

Why didn't they do this last draft though? And the offseason before that......

Brock Pedo?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

We have been saying this for a few years on this site. Is it possible the team really doesn't think it's a poblem? Are we stupid and seeing things wrong? I don't get how a glaring need is so obvious to everyone but the people who can make the changes.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

Why didn't they do this last draft though? And the offseason before that......

I've been b***hing about that for years and instead we have an o line coach saying he can do it with later round picks. So Instead we drafted a mediocre kicker in the 3rd and a Safety in the 2nd that is almost good.

Hopefully we will rebuild the IOL and right tackle this year.

Team will regret if they do big Purdy contract. I like him a lot but not top tier. Misses a lot of throws, not a tall guy, throws uphill. Scrambling is not a good thing, it's a get injured thing. Out of commission twice in three years.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

Why didn't they do this last draft though? And the offseason before that......

I've been b***hing about that for years and instead we have an o line coach saying he can do it with later round picks. So Instead we drafted a mediocre kicker in the 3rd and a Safety in the 2nd that is almost good.

Hopefully we will rebuild the IOL and right tackle this year.

well they basically have been doing it with the OL they had and it's been all patch work. (not the Line they intended to have due to uncontrollable factors)

we lost C and RG for the SB in 2019
had a hobbled Trent and McGlinch in 2021
had a healthy line playing pretty decent in 2022, but a back up TE ruined it
same for 2023.. controlling the SB until Feliciano went out with an injury

So it can be done, I don't think anyone, even the 49ers would advise it, but you have to make a decision on what's best because not all draft picks will become good to great players. DL and other skill players tend to get you over the top. but we have been adding to the line.

Hopefully brock considers his contract will affect how we do in OL Free agency.

Drew Brees was similar in size to Purdy and the saints mangaged to build a line that protected him. By the way, Brees was talking the other day about his game in college against wisconsin when he threw 83 passes. Imagine throwing that many times. I wonder how his arm felt the next day.

Originally posted by mcwoot:

#NFL QB Rankings through Week 13

Brock sitting at #5 overall in a season like this speaks volumes.

FYI: I included ESPN's Total QBR in my rankings instead of traditional QB Rating, as it provides a more accurate measure for evaluating QB performance. pic.twitter.com/4gpxKlshDC

— SFdata9ers (@sfdata9ers) December 5, 2024

lol. Any list or "data" sheet that has Kyler Murray and Derek Carr ranked higher than guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is silly. Even if it's situational. This is prime example of why stat sheets don't tell the real story. Brock is number 5, but his season has been so-so. He started out great but then his play has gradually declined as the season progressed.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

#NFL QB Rankings through Week 13

Brock sitting at #5 overall in a season like this speaks volumes.

FYI: I included ESPN's Total QBR in my rankings instead of traditional QB Rating, as it provides a more accurate measure for evaluating QB performance. pic.twitter.com/4gpxKlshDC

— SFdata9ers (@sfdata9ers) December 5, 2024

lol. Any list or "data" sheet that has Kyler Murray and Derek Carr ranked higher than guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is silly. Even if it's situational. This is prime example of why stat sheets don't tell the real story. Brock is number 5, but his season has been so-so. He started out great but then his play has gradually declined as the season progressed.

I agree this thing sees the information in a certain way. Brock has only thrown like 13tds against 7ints. TDs, wins, converting 3rd downs need to have some weight on them.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

I mean they spent a top 50 pick on a LG? While he wasn't a rock star he was more than serviceable, especially last yr when he was healthy and they were tossing up 30 a game. They will have to replace him, I don't think that should require a top 50 pick or a mountain of cash.

center is the real issue and imo that should be attacked via FA. Bring in Ryan Kelly. They need a OT for the future and a reset across the DL (minus Bosa).

Originally posted by DrEll:
lol. Any list or "data" sheet that has Kyler Murray and Derek Carr ranked higher than guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is silly. Even if it's situational. This is prime example of why stat sheets don't tell the real story. Brock is number 5, but his season has been so-so. He started out great but then his play has gradually declined as the season progressed.

You gotta understand what those stats represent before determining that they don't matter.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

#NFL QB Rankings through Week 13

Brock sitting at #5 overall in a season like this speaks volumes.

FYI: I included ESPN's Total QBR in my rankings instead of traditional QB Rating, as it provides a more accurate measure for evaluating QB performance. pic.twitter.com/4gpxKlshDC

— SFdata9ers (@sfdata9ers) December 5, 2024

lol. Any list or "data" sheet that has Kyler Murray and Derek Carr ranked higher than guys like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes is silly. Even if it's situational. This is prime example of why stat sheets don't tell the real story. Brock is number 5, but his season has been so-so. He started out great but then his play has gradually declined as the season progressed.

I agree this thing sees the information in a certain way. Brock has only thrown like 13tds against 7ints. TDs, wins, converting 3rd downs need to have some weight on them.

This is why I have a problem with stats. They can be used and manipulated in any way to make an arument. I hate passer rating. I guy can go have a higher completion % and more yards but but still have a lower passer rating if he throws one INT. Even f it's a tipped pass and ends up having no effect on the outcome of the game his rating gets dropped. That's just one of many stats that can be misleading.