QB Brock Purdy Thread

in the NFL QB index on the league site he's ranked 18th

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay so Purdy is better than Burrow? Allen? Lamar? Stroud? Daniels?

Burrow: Good, but his stiffness in the pocket is a problem and leads to sacks. Bengals fans blame their offensive line every year, but the sacks are on him.

Allen: His horrible footwork comes up every now and then and he goes through phases where he can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Lamar: Not a real quarterback.

Stroud: The Texans have wide open receivers all over the field and he's still not doing much this year. Not much smarter than Vince Young.

Daniels: Product of his receivers in college. Think he'll end up being a bust.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
LOL.

What's the LOL? It's literally true. Do you people bother to learn ANYTHING about football before spouting off?

Tua was a forgettable QB, they added Hill...oh look, his yards per attempt are now Stat Paddy's, and Stat Paddy's turn into Tua's. That's without even putting the best play caller in football or a 1st ballot HOF TE on his roster.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Your argument is illogical and wrong.

Brock is no good in the red zone

The "Stats" prove it.

Brock needs to improve to be qualified as a medium talented quarterback.

The film shows certain QBs hitting wide open receivers and throwing screens and shovel passes to get their "TD passes," while Brock gets none of the sort. You think Brock couldn't throw a screen if Kyle called it?

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
FE49ers, do you even watch the NFL at all?

I doubt you watch any teams besides the 49ers.

I know, I know...the NFL's PR propaganda department told you Stat Paddy is amazeballs and the Michael Jordan of football. Trust me: There is nothing impressive about throwing screens and shovel passes, even if you do it behind your back because you're a showboating little twit like Stat Paddy.

Originally posted by genus49:
lol this is rare level glazing...Andy Reid is that you?

Dude at 34 goes from Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Lesean McCoy, Brent Celek in the prime of their careers and goes to an offense revolving around an aging Santana Moss with Chris Cooley and Clinton Portis at the end of their career and suddenly we're shocked that McNabb isn't as good?

And we want to pretend that Alex Smith wasn't totally f'd over here or that he didn't look much better before Kap took over for him? Also he was playing pretty good in Washington with virtually no real weapons before the whole...almost losing a leg thing. But yes let's just ignore those things and pretend it was all Andy Reid.

34 is not old for a QB.

You mean he UPGRADED in supporting cast going to Washington? Because that's what he did.

McCoy started a whopping 4 games in 2009. Celek is a journeyman caliber TE. Maclin is a JAG.

Moss and Cooley were still in their primes. Portis is irrelevant...they had the OZS that makes every journeyman back successful.

Yeah, Alex Smith got so f**ked. All he had was the best offensive line in football, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, and Frank Gore. Poor Alex Smith.

He was NOT playing pretty good in Washington. He was his old mediocre self.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Okay so Purdy is better than Burrow? Allen? Lamar? Stroud? Daniels?

Burrow: Good, but his stiffness in the pocket is a problem and leads to sacks. Bengals fans blame their offensive line every year, but the sacks are on him.

Allen: His horrible footwork comes up every now and then and he goes through phases where he can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Lamar: Not a real quarterback.

Stroud: The Texans have wide open receivers all over the field and he's still not doing much this year. Not much smarter than Vince Young.

Daniels: Product of his receivers in college. Think he'll end up being a bust.

Is your day job Brock Purdys agent?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Ive been saying getting a strong IOL will fast track us back to being a top 4 team. It doesn't mean I'm satisfied with McKivitz, but being elite from guard to guard will afford Brock the ability to step up in the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges consistently and use his elusiveness to find a receiver breaking open. It also allows us to consistently run the ball well o. Inside runs a dominate 3rd/4th and short.

I think what we did in 2013 is only the tip of the iceberg. It would also help the defense immensely because we could jump on teams from anywhere from 13 - 21 points pretty quickly.

As bad as we have been, this team is still top 10 in yards on both offense and defense. Get the trenches together and we will get there on points as well.

Exactly. You have a smaller QB, if you're going to commit to him and pay him big bucks, do everything possible to make his life easier and building an interior that will give him a consistent pocket to step up into should be considered the most pressing need they have right now. Puni is a step in the right direction, now they need to get serious about LG and C.

Why didn't they do this last draft though? And the offseason before that......

I've been b***hing about that for years and instead we have an o line coach saying he can do it with later round picks. So Instead we drafted a mediocre kicker in the 3rd and a Safety in the 2nd that is almost good.

Hopefully we will rebuild the IOL and right tackle this year.

well they basically have been doing it with the OL they had and it's been all patch work. (not the Line they intended to have due to uncontrollable factors)

we lost C and RG for the SB in 2019
had a hobbled Trent and McGlinch in 2021
had a healthy line playing pretty decent in 2022, but a back up TE ruined it
same for 2023.. controlling the SB until Feliciano went out with an injury

So it can be done, I don't think anyone, even the 49ers would advise it, but you have to make a decision on what's best because not all draft picks will become good to great players. DL and other skill players tend to get you over the top. but we have been adding to the line.

Hopefully brock considers his contract will affect how we do in OL Free agency.

I hear you, but I will play devils advocate here. Hopefully Brock considers how the 49ers approach the o line and how that will affect his decisions etc lol

The fact is that Brock is a very young QB who is having a down year, he's put a ton of good play on tape. many of the top Qbs in the league hadn't hit their stride by Brocks age. Solidify the line and he is a 10+ win QB every single year, everybody struggles in this league. He will probably never be a top 5 guy but he is top 10 all day and twice on sundays. To quote Aaron RELAX!

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
The fact is that Brock is a very young QB who is having a down year, he's put a ton of good play on tape. many of the top Qbs in the league hadn't hit their stride by Brocks age. Solidify the line and he is a 10+ win QB every single year, everybody struggles in this league. He will probably never be a top 5 guy but he is top 10 all day and twice on sundays. To quote Aaron RELAX!

rodgers would make an interesting backup

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I hear you, but I will play devils advocate here. Hopefully Brock considers how the 49ers approach the o line and how that will affect his decisions etc lol

49ers before FA & Draft: Hey Brock we want to beef up the OL to protect you, but we will need cap space to do it.
Brock: IDGAF gimme all the monies

months later...Brock: Hey why didn't you protect me !

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
The fact is that Brock is a very young QB who is having a down year, he's put a ton of good play on tape. many of the top Qbs in the league hadn't hit their stride by Brocks age. Solidify the line and he is a 10+ win QB every single year, everybody struggles in this league. He will probably never be a top 5 guy but he is top 10 all day and twice on sundays. To quote Aaron RELAX!

rodgers would make an interesting backup

More like a pain in the ass backup.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
What's the LOL? It's literally true. Do you people bother to learn ANYTHING about football before spouting off?

Tua was a forgettable QB, they added Hill...oh look, his yards per attempt are now Stat Paddy's, and Stat Paddy's turn into Tua's. That's without even putting the best play caller in football or a 1st ballot HOF TE on his roster.

The LOL was because you said something ridiculously stupid. Here it is again:

Tyreek Hill went to Miami and now Tua's numbers look like Stat Paddy's used to.

You can narrow it down to YPA and maybe one or two other very basic stats if you like, but this isn't remotely close to accurate when looking at QB statistics overall. Tua's production isn't better than Mahomes post Hill, and isn't even close to Mahomes with Hill.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You make it very clear by believing Brock is the clear best QB in the NFL, let alone the other wildly stupid things you've said (like the above example).

*Here's Mahomes basic stat line in his first season without Hill:
5250 yards
41 Passing TDs
12 Ints
67.1 completion percentage
8.1 YPA
105 passer rating
79 QBR
Super Bowl Champion too.

Tua has never sniffed a year like this. Not remotely close.*

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Burrow: Good, but his stiffness in the pocket is a problem and leads to sacks. Bengals fans blame their offensive line every year, but the sacks are on him.

Allen: His horrible footwork comes up every now and then and he goes through phases where he can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Lamar: Not a real quarterback.

Stroud: The Texans have wide open receivers all over the field and he's still not doing much this year. Not much smarter than Vince Young.

Daniels: Product of his receivers in college. Think he'll end up being a bust.

thanks for once again proving your screen name is nothing but satire.

youre no expert.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Burrow: Good, but his stiffness in the pocket is a problem and leads to sacks. Bengals fans blame their offensive line every year, but the sacks are on him.

Allen: His horrible footwork comes up every now and then and he goes through phases where he can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Lamar: Not a real quarterback.

Stroud: The Texans have wide open receivers all over the field and he's still not doing much this year. Not much smarter than Vince Young.

Daniels: Product of his receivers in college. Think he'll end up being a bust.

thanks for once again proving your screen name is nothing but satire.

youre no expert.

Jackson not a real QB? He has the 2nd most passing yards ths year with only 3 INTs. His passer rating is 116. Looks like a QB to me.