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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Never makes it that far. We fold

I would bet we sign him at this point. There's a lot of area between 'he gets whatever he wants' and move on.

We can sign him to a hefty 3 year extension with outs that isn't a top tier franchise QB type deal. I think you're fooling yourself if you think he has the kind of leverage to dictate more.

Why would he not have the leverage? He has more than yuk did and that was over like 3 million that caused him to miss all of tc.

If there smart they already promise him like 45 million a year now and have it basically pre negotiated.

That's a win. You play hardball with him and it goes from 45 now when his stock down to 58-60
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I would bet we sign him at this point. There's a lot of area between 'he gets whatever he wants' and move on.

We can sign him to a hefty 3 year extension with outs that isn't a top tier franchise QB type deal. I think you're fooling yourself if you think he has the kind of leverage to dictate more.

This is what I'm betting happens. Somewhere in the $30-40m/year range with team friendly outs. And yes those are mid-tier starter salary numbers nowadays.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Agree to disagree. He wouldn't sign a 3 year deal.

How would you handle the situation if you were our FO?

Same as just about every contract we've signed lately. Long term and backloaded.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by captveg:
Not offering an extension this offseason is screaming at Brock "We are 100% going to replace you ASAP". Better to just pull the bandaid off this offseason than do that. You draft/sign a guy and trade/cut Purdy, or you extend him with a significant pay raise. There's no real in-between. To do otherwise is just p***yfooting around.

Ummmm… you posted with conviction but you did it mention any real consequence beyond us being perceived as "screaming"

The consequence is wasting a year on a QB you've already decided isn't good enough. Why waste that year? Just go get another guy and move on.

You're 100% correct. Either sign him or draft a QB and trade Purdy. Anything in between that is a waste of time.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion if we're considering the draft. Sitting a rookie behind a cheap purdy on the last year of his deal is about as good as it gets

Not in the NFL in 2025. Every rookie QB drafted to start now starts his rookie year. Even if a team plans to have him learn behind a vet (which Purdy wouldn't really be) they still end up starting within that year. See New England this year.

This is a recipe for Shanahan to go 2-15 and definitely get fired.

For sure. There aren't any QBs over the last few years that have sat some time before starting 🤣🤣
Not the GREATEST QB in the elements...but who is?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Because they've seen enough to decide if he's their guy. Purdy is not going to risk playing out the final year of his rookie contract without an extension. Why would he anyway? He's already far out played his draft position and pay. He's going to give the team another free year and look? No way.

They better not think like this. Throw out relevant data because their minds are made up.

Purdy doesn't have nearly as much leverage as some of you think he does. He's not getting a big deal on the open market if he effectively skips a year. He's a limited talent player with high quality play on a loaded offense in a QB friendly system. We all can see the struggles here.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by captveg:
Not offering an extension this offseason is screaming at Brock "We are 100% going to replace you ASAP". Better to just pull the bandaid off this offseason than do that. You draft/sign a guy and trade/cut Purdy, or you extend him with a significant pay raise. There's no real in-between. To do otherwise is just p***yfooting around.

Ummmm… you posted with conviction but you did it mention any real consequence beyond us being perceived as "screaming"

The consequence is wasting a year on a QB you've already decided isn't good enough. Why waste that year? Just go get another guy and move on.

You're 100% correct. Either sign him or draft a QB and trade Purdy. Anything in between that is a waste of time.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion if we're considering the draft. Sitting a rookie behind a cheap purdy on the last year of his deal is about as good as it gets

Not in the NFL in 2025. Every rookie QB drafted to start now starts his rookie year. Even if a team plans to have him learn behind a vet (which Purdy wouldn't really be) they still end up starting within that year. See New England this year.

This is a recipe for Shanahan to go 2-15 and definitely get fired.

Exactly this. All of the holes on our team and we take a QB with a high pick? Create a QB controversy and ruin the team chemistry. That's not happening. They need to just decide based on what they've seen. And I simply do not see Kyle/Lynch taking another chance on a rookie QB high draft pick.

Now they can take someone in the middle or later rounds. But they better address C, RT, LB, S, and TE first.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by captveg:
Not offering an extension this offseason is screaming at Brock "We are 100% going to replace you ASAP". Better to just pull the bandaid off this offseason than do that. You draft/sign a guy and trade/cut Purdy, or you extend him with a significant pay raise. There's no real in-between. To do otherwise is just p***yfooting around.

Ummmm… you posted with conviction but you did it mention any real consequence beyond us being perceived as "screaming"

The consequence is wasting a year on a QB you've already decided isn't good enough. Why waste that year? Just go get another guy and move on.

You're 100% correct. Either sign him or draft a QB and trade Purdy. Anything in between that is a waste of time.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion if we're considering the draft. Sitting a rookie behind a cheap purdy on the last year of his deal is about as good as it gets

Not in the NFL in 2025. Every rookie QB drafted to start now starts his rookie year. Even if a team plans to have him learn behind a vet (which Purdy wouldn't really be) they still end up starting within that year. See New England this year.

This is a recipe for Shanahan to go 2-15 and definitely get fired.

For sure. There aren't any QBs over the last few years that have sat some time before starting 🤣🤣

No one of significance since Mahomes in 2018 has sat. And that was behind a 15 year vet, not a guy still on his rookie contract.
[ Edited by captveg on Dec 12, 2024 at 9:21 PM ]
Originally posted by captveg:
This is what I'm betting happens. Somewhere in the $30-40m/year range with team friendly outs. And yes those are mid-tier starter salary numbers nowadays.

Agreed. We'll see.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Not the GREATEST QB in the elements...but who is?

brady
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
They better not think like this. Throw out relevant data because their minds are made up.

Purdy doesn't have nearly as much leverage as some of you think he does. He's not getting a big deal on the open market if he effectively skips a year. He's a limited talent player with high quality play on a loaded offense in a QB friendly system. We all can see the struggles here.

This is among the least QB friendly systems in football. The 49ers are literally last in average receiver separation. J.T. O'Sullivan, Kurt Warner, and Jay Gruden all hate Kyle's scheme.
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Because they've seen enough to decide if he's their guy. Purdy is not going to risk playing out the final year of his rookie contract without an extension. Why would he anyway? He's already far out played his draft position and pay. He's going to give the team another free year and look? No way.

They better not think like this. Throw out relevant data because their minds are made up.

Purdy doesn't have nearly as much leverage as some of you think he does. He's not getting a big deal on the open market if he effectively skips a year. He's a limited talent player with high quality play on a loaded offense in a QB friendly system. We all can see the struggles here.

Which QB's in the NFL would have success without their starting RB, backup RB, LT, #1 WR, and #2 WR falling off a cliff? Oh while playing behind the 38th ranked C in the league?

I disagree about "limited talent." He doesn't have a big arm but that's it. Every other attribute is good/great/elite. Plenty of other teams would sign him.
Brock is playing with an injury no QB has any business playing with.

I love how fans think that he went from being the most accurate QB in football to sailing balls 10 yards over an open receiver's head from 2 yards away just for no reason.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Which QB's in the NFL would have success without their starting RB, backup RB, LT, #1 WR, and #2 WR falling off a cliff? Oh while playing behind the 38th ranked C in the league?

I disagree about "limited talent." He doesn't have a big arm but that's it. Every other attribute is good/great/elite. Plenty of other teams would sign him.

Not at top tier money. And definitely not if he holds out for the bulk of his contract year.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by captveg:
This is what I'm betting happens. Somewhere in the $30-40m/year range with team friendly outs. And yes those are mid-tier starter salary numbers nowadays.

Agreed. We'll see.

You guys think he's getting 30 when the cowboys just gave dak 60?

Really? You guys really think that?
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