QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by Montana:
Ugh ppl be a bunch of Campbellz out there lol

I don't think so Montana… he is going in the wrong direction. Hanging passes, taking sacks, throwing behind receivers, not seeing open guys, forcing passes. He is contributing to losses instead of managing the game and he is not capable of putting the team on his shoulders to find a way to win. He is playing backup football right now..

This. More excuses from Wbzers. A 60 million dollar QB over comes team injuries and limited talent. You can franchise him or give him a small extension at 40-45mill but that's about it. You will need the cap space to surround him with talent. He can win a SB, he just needs more help than an elite would.

Start with the OL.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by joeknows:
Purdy has been a great find for us. Over his young career so far he has had some fantastic games. He could still work out to be a solid top-class QB for us to build around. He likely is not the new Brady / Mahomes / whoever, and that's fine.

This was not a good game from Purdy. Passes were consistently underthrown (and occasionally overthrown), which is unfortunate for a guy who usually has accuracy as a plus attribute. He did not lead with his play, and did not show calmness under fire in the important moments.
This is a game that was available for Purdy to win, and he didn't.

To be clear, this whole loss was not on Purdy, but this thread is about him, so I'm critiquing his play.

Purdy is not going to be paid based on this game alone obviously. My hope is that he gets paid like an NFL quarterback, but not like a superstar QB. Lots of incentivisation. Lots of room for cap wiggle on the organisations part. I'm hoping that Purdy's humble start to his career gives him some perspective here.

Money changes things. He has an agent and agents will demand top dollar not just for their clients but also to drive up the cost across the board. They set the market. As long as teams are willing to pay the market keeps increasing. Having him on a 5 year top dollar contract will essentially guarantee our mediocrity for the foreseeable future. He ain't the guy…

49ers are not in a bind here though. We go into his contact year still not sure if Brock is -

a) A franchise QB in the NFL
b) A good enough QB who needs plentiful weapons to succeed
c) An inconsistent player who ends up being a liability all told

Anyone saying they have a *definite* handle on him right now is reaching in my opinion. He has shown so many different looks at different moments, from outstanding to mundane (and is still very young).

This uncertainty helps the 49ers in my opinion. They can negotiate on a basis of worth, and have walking away be an option.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
This. More excuses from Wbzers. A 60 million dollar QB over comes team injuries and limited talent. You can franchise him or give him a small extension at 40-45mill but that's about it. You will need the cap space to surround him with talent. He can win a SB, he just needs more help than an elite would.

Start with the OL.

Yes and start with Banks jr. or Ersery. Maybe even trade up a little if Campbell falls

Originally posted by NYniner85:
First off Campbell is a loser and is gone. He's NOT the reason the lost last night, so save me the deflection crap.

Josh Allen had 430 yards and 6tds vs this same D. His best playmaker was Khalil Shakir Brock wants to get paid with guys like him. Think about that.

How about you hold the most important person in sports accountable a little bit? It's clear as day he CAN NOT play in any sort of weather that's not 75 and sunny or in a dome. That's a f**king problem.

Everyone wants to blame Kyle for every little thing that goes wrong. He DOESN'T play football. He's not on the field. He's not the one that's gonna make a quarter of a billion dollars. He's not under throwing/ over throwing guys. He's not missing reads or throwing floaters into double coverage on 2nd down with a wide ass open Ricky sitting there underneath

yeah paying Lawrence was a mistake. What's your point? You think we should do the same s**t? Look I'm not some Brock hater. Overall he's hasn't played great this yr, take a step back and recognize that.

1000% this this this. You can love the 9ers, like Brock, but still hold his ass accountable.

Originally posted by JC_916:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
First off Campbell is a loser and is gone. He's NOT the reason the lost last night, so save me the deflection crap.

Josh Allen had 430 yards and 6tds vs this same D. His best playmaker was Khalil Shakir Brock wants to get paid with guys like him. Think about that.

How about you hold the most important person in sports accountable a little bit? It's clear as day he CAN NOT play in any sort of weather that's not 75 and sunny or in a dome. That's a f**king problem.

Everyone wants to blame Kyle for every little thing that goes wrong. He DOESN'T play football. He's not on the field. He's not the one that's gonna make a quarter of a billion dollars. He's not under throwing/ over throwing guys. He's not missing reads or throwing floaters into double coverage on 2nd down with a wide ass open Ricky sitting there underneath

yeah paying Lawrence was a mistake. What's your point? You think we should do the same s**t? Look I'm not some Brock hater. Overall he's hasn't played great this yr, take a step back and recognize that.

1000% this this this. You can love the 9ers, like Brock, but still hold his ass accountable.

Same for anyone else, including the coaching staff. It's all been poor this year.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
This. More excuses from Wbzers. A 60 million dollar QB over comes team injuries and limited talent. You can franchise him or give him a small extension at 40-45mill but that's about it. You will need the cap space to surround him with talent. He can win a SB, he just needs more help than an elite would.

Start with the OL.

The Rams are better on both sides of the line right now, especially on the OL. They're young, hungry and play with the sort of ruthless aggression that the 49ers once were known for.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
First off Campbell is a loser and is gone. He's NOT the reason the lost last night, so save me the deflection crap.

Josh Allen had 430 yards and 6tds vs this same D. His best playmaker was Khalil Shakir Brock wants to get paid with guys like him. Think about that.

How about you hold the most important person in sports accountable a little bit? It's clear as day he CAN NOT play in any sort of weather that's not 75 and sunny or in a dome. That's a f**king problem.

Everyone wants to blame Kyle for every little thing that goes wrong. He DOESN'T play football. He's not on the field. He's not the one that's gonna make a quarter of a billion dollars. He's not under throwing/ over throwing guys. He's not missing reads or throwing floaters into double coverage on 2nd down with a wide ass open Ricky sitting there underneath

yeah paying Lawrence was a mistake. What's your point? You think we should do the same s**t? Look I'm not some Brock hater. Overall he's hasn't played great this yr, take a step back and recognize that.

Lolol dude, I recognize that he has made mistakes. Nor did I say loser Campbell is why we lost..it's a team sport..Deebo for instance, blew it. Players could have played better.

The most important person in sports? You mean a qb in general or Brock? I am guessing just the qb position. Yeah, of course, he is accountable for the mistakes he has made, I never contested that.

Brock has never said that he wants to get paid like Josh Allen. So, there is another assumption. Also, I never mentioned Kyle regarding this loss..so, yeah.

Let's take a step back and not assume so many things and actually look at what people have said and posted, instead of assumption after assumption. Idk

It's pretty easy to see Brock has regressed this year period. No excuses about oline, injuries, etc....he has regressed. If you can't see that your just as bad as Mr. Homer himself David Lombardi.

And we can all agree for the 9ers sake, we have to hope and believe he can turn it around next year.

Had two check downs sitting right there on 2nd and 10. Da f**k man

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Had two check downs sitting right there on 2nd and 10. Da f**k man

I woke up crying this morning, because of this play. @49ers

Brock Purdy: A play to regret.

Niners: A season to forget. #AchoAnalysis | @TheFacilityFS1 10am est. pic.twitter.com/WRzoz22O0E

— Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) December 13, 2024

even with the check down, if he didnt get the 1st, it'll likely be 3rd and short with a shot to continue the drive for a td or fg.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
The Rams are better on both sides of the line right now, especially on the OL. They're young, hungry and play with the sort of ruthless aggression that the 49ers once were known for.

This is a lot of teams right now. Maybe not so young but you can see it in all the teams that are punching their way into the playoffs including the got dam SeaClucks.

I feel like there's never a middle ground with Brock. For a while people had to argue to defend him being a good QB while the media doubted him only bc of where he was drafted. Then niner fans went to the extreme last year acting like he's the next Drew Brees. The truth is in the middle.

He's a good QB. It's not easy to find a good QB. But he's 100% a limited QB who's only at his best when he's surrounded by elite players around him. In that structure he can operate at an above average level.

Where the problem comes is when you have to pay and commit to him. He's clearly not a QB who can be the focal point of an offense and elevate others around him.

I know it's a pipe dream but my move would be to sign darnold in the offseason and recoup picks trading Brock but that won't happen.
I personally wouldn't consider a contract extension. He's under control…make him play and earn it while we also have the franchise tag after next year. We've seen too much regression.

Realistically, I pray the deal they eventually give him this offseason is discounted with outs fairly early in the deal. Draft a QB to develop for a year or two.

The sad realization about the Shanahan era is that when his time is up here…the truth for why he ultimately failed is that he never was able to land a franchise QB. That will come closer to happening once they commit to Brock

Originally posted by Montana:
Lolol dude, I recognize that he has made mistakes. Nor did I say loser Campbell is why we lost..it's a team sport..Deebo for instance, blew it. Players could have played better.

The most important person in sports? You mean a qb in general or Brock? I am guessing just the qb position. Yeah, of course, he is accountable for the mistakes he has made, I never contested that.

Brock has never said that he wants to get paid like Josh Allen. So, there is another assumption. Also, I never mentioned Kyle regarding this loss..so, yeah.

Let's take a step back and not assume so many things and actually look at what people have said and posted, instead of assumption after assumption. Idk

The most important position/person in sports. The QB. You know the guy that's suppose to make a quarter of a billion dollars? s**t starts there imo.

What, you think Brock is gonna be gracious and take a Derrick Carr deal lol? His agent will NOT let that be a thing…I'm being logical and looking at the environment of the QB position and how they get paid.

We all want Brock to be great…some in here have already tried to make that a thing and when he does play poorly, they deflect and toss out other reasons outside of QB play. He's taken a step back this yr, he can't play in inclement weather. He's missing reads, forcing passes, his mechanics are bad, which leads to poorly thrown balls. He doesn't have the arm talent to make those type of big time throws in a muddy pocket. Is what it is.

This roster is old and needs a fact lift, which will cost money. Brock HAS to be better for this team to be successful and it's gonna be with a lesser overall teams because of HIS contract.

He's gotta win these grimy games thought out season. Poor effort for everyone on offense top to bottom.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Had two check downs sitting right there on 2nd and 10. Da f**k man

I woke up crying this morning, because of this play. @49ers

Brock Purdy: A play to regret.

Niners: A season to forget. #AchoAnalysis | @TheFacilityFS1 10am est. pic.twitter.com/WRzoz22O0E

— Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) December 13, 2024

Felt like he was going for the killshot way too much instead of just taking what the defense was giving him, being way too wedded to his presnap reads.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Had two check downs sitting right there on 2nd and 10. Da f**k man

I woke up crying this morning, because of this play. @49ers

Brock Purdy: A play to regret.

Niners: A season to forget. #AchoAnalysis | @TheFacilityFS1 10am est. pic.twitter.com/WRzoz22O0E

— Emmanuel Acho (@EmmanuelAcho) December 13, 2024

even with the check down, if he didnt get the 1st, it'll likely be 3rd and short with a shot to continue the drive for a td or fg.

It was one of the most horrific decisions of the year. In one of the biggest moments, the guy choked. I'm really freaking tired of this.