QB Brock Purdy Thread

Not so easy to play quarterback without CMC.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
The decision making has been questionable a lot this season. He needs to learn from these mistakes. You can't be Brett Favre so don't try to be. Be Brock Purdy.

the issue a see is he's a point guard. get it out to our playmakers and we have chonk stonehands as the feature guy thanks to coach. that's a problem. so we need new playmakers.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
So $40 million wouldn't be saying you're hitching your wagon, but $50 million is.....okay make sense.

WTF is going on here!!!!

I mean if it's a 5 yr deal that's an extra $50M and that can go a long way when talking about signing folks and GTD $.

I've said I think he's closer to Mayfield vs the elite level guys. Baker just got a 3yr $100M deal. I feel like that would make more sense, gives Brock generational wealth, gives SF opportunity to put talent around him and give both sides the opportunity to evaluate the future. He balls out he's can get an extension in two yrs…make a f**k ton more.

Cap is all fluff. When these numbers get talked about there is so much BS at the top.

Jalen Hurts' contract is a perfect example of it. When it was reported it was basically the top contract for a QB almost 2 years ago. It was reported as a 5 year 255 million deal and highest ever.

Go look at his cap hits. His highest is just under 42 mil and that's not until 2027.

Two things I know.

Brock Purdy has won us a lot of football games since coming in as a starter behind Jimmy.
Brock Purdy is the best QB we have available realistically to help us win football games next year.

I expect the 49ers and Brock to get a deal done and even if it seems HUGE at signing I would be absolutely shocked that when the details came out that he was going to have cap hits anywhere near the $60 mark people are throwing around and if there was a year on the books like that, it would be way down the road where the deal can be reworked.

Now can you draft QBs and develop them to hedge your bet with Brock? Sure. Should they try to recreate the 2021 situation and make a jump for a top QB in this class? Definitely not. It would be a massive mistake.

Build up the trenches around Brock. Kyle also really needs to assess how his offense is built/executed late in games to ensure we're not at a disadvantage when we just have to throw the ball.

Oh and get Deebo off this roster. No more feeding guys who can't beat man coverage.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
For whatever reason? We know the reasons. No CMC. No Aiyuk. Injuries to Williams. Deebo having an off year. They're down to their 4th string RB. How mny more reasons do you need.

Was happening before that though. Were off all season in redzone.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Not so easy to play quarterback without CMC.

31 other teams don't have CMC

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the issue a see is he's a point guard. get it out to our playmakers and we have chonk stonehands as the feature guy thanks to coach. that's a problem. so we need new playmakers.

No they don't. Need the offense to be consistent and you do that by running it consistently, not by pressing to make the big play. Guys were open yesterday. Hit them.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
I really like Brock but it's good to be honest. He saved us from the Lance bust and is better than Garoppolo but I've seen multiple games where he can't put the team over THAT hump and this team needs someone that can.

The team can not and must not give him the bag!

I know it's unpopular but Shanahan needs to swallow some ego and bring in a humbled Rodgers for 1 year.

Is that being honest? Jimmy G was more consistent here and while Lance just seems to be not an NFL player. He hasn't really played much since 2019. I have no idea if he could have put it together if he had started a full season. Rodgers is done. Father time comes for us all.

Jimmy G's teams were dominating and would sneak up on others except that he was always hurt. Lance will not earn a chance other than as a backup.

If you're being honest than we know that the NYJ is a mirage and a career killer.

For one year on this team with this defense and a couple better receivers I'd put my chips all in with Rodgers.

Originally posted by genus49:
Cap is all fluff. When these numbers get talked about there is so much BS at the top.

Jalen Hurts' contract is a perfect example of it. When it was reported it was basically the top contract for a QB almost 2 years ago. It was reported as a 5 year 255 million deal and highest ever.

Go look at his cap hits. His highest is just under 42 mil and that's not until 2027.

Two things I know.

Brock Purdy has won us a lot of football games since coming in as a starter behind Jimmy.
Brock Purdy is the best QB we have available realistically to help us win football games next year.

I expect the 49ers and Brock to get a deal done and even if it seems HUGE at signing I would be absolutely shocked that when the details came out that he was going to have cap hits anywhere near the $60 mark people are throwing around and if there was a year on the books like that, it would be way down the road where the deal can be reworked.

Now can you draft QBs and develop them to hedge your bet with Brock? Sure. Should they try to recreate the 2021 situation and make a jump for a top QB in this class? Definitely not. It would be a massive mistake.

Build up the trenches around Brock. Kyle also really needs to assess how his offense is built/executed late in games to ensure we're not at a disadvantage when we just have to throw the ball.

Oh and get Deebo off this roster. No more feeding guys who can't beat man coverage.

I think this offseason would be a better time to make a move in the draft for QB than 2021 was. I don't expect they will though.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the issue a see is he's a point guard. get it out to our playmakers and we have chonk stonehands as the feature guy thanks to coach. that's a problem. so we need new playmakers.

No they don't. Need the offense to be consistent and you do that by running it consistently, not by pressing to make the big play. Guys were open yesterday. Hit them.

well he hit chonk for a TD we saw the result. multifaceted problem you are right he made the mistakes out there also. it's kinda all bad here. i look forward to a reboot we need to get younger.

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Not so easy to play quarterback without CMC.

Newsflash - QBs losing elite talent around them don't look as good for the most part without those guys.

Patrick Mahomes is the best QB in the game right now and he's having easily his worst season as a pro with his LT having problems and injuries on offense.

Purdy played without CMC just fine against this Rams team week 3. Also without Deebo and Kittle in that game.

The loss of Aiyuk hurt us more than CMC ironically due to the depth behind each one.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by niners94:
If quarterbacks always regress under Kyle, then maybe it's on Kyle. He clearly emphasizes different things after a while of working with a QB. Kyle seems like a grind to be coached by.

QBs haven't always regressed under Kyle. We have maybe two possible real examples of this in Jimmy G and Brock and I think the better point is he helped make both of them look a lot better than they are.

Jimmy G is really the only QB he's had for a real length of time.

We are going on 9 years and still discussing if we have the QB guy. I'd say that is a problem and not if they regressed or not.

So you can take that issue and dissect if Kyle issue or not.

Yes they will pay Brock. I like the kid a lot. I think he is an awesome awesome leader and dude. But I am starting to wonder about long term skill set now. I am fine to extend him and I sure hope there is an easy team friendly escape clause after year three if an issue.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I think this offseason would be a better time to make a move in the draft for QB than 2021 was. I don't expect they will though.

Meh Shedur Sanders or Cam Ward don't excite me much in this offense.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Cap is all fluff. When these numbers get talked about there is so much BS at the top.

Jalen Hurts' contract is a perfect example of it. When it was reported it was basically the top contract for a QB almost 2 years ago. It was reported as a 5 year 255 million deal and highest ever.

Go look at his cap hits. His highest is just under 42 mil and that's not until 2027.

Two things I know.

Brock Purdy has won us a lot of football games since coming in as a starter behind Jimmy.
Brock Purdy is the best QB we have available realistically to help us win football games next year.

I expect the 49ers and Brock to get a deal done and even if it seems HUGE at signing I would be absolutely shocked that when the details came out that he was going to have cap hits anywhere near the $60 mark people are throwing around and if there was a year on the books like that, it would be way down the road where the deal can be reworked.

Now can you draft QBs and develop them to hedge your bet with Brock? Sure. Should they try to recreate the 2021 situation and make a jump for a top QB in this class? Definitely not. It would be a massive mistake.

Build up the trenches around Brock. Kyle also really needs to assess how his offense is built/executed late in games to ensure we're not at a disadvantage when we just have to throw the ball.

Oh and get Deebo off this roster. No more feeding guys who can't beat man coverage.

I think this offseason would be a better time to make a move in the draft for QB than 2021 was. I don't expect they will though.

There's only a couple QBs at this point that look good and I'm not sure either one will be a success in the NFL. Not a good draft for QBs or players overall.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Meh Shedur Sanders or Cam Ward don't excited me much in this offense.

I was really just referencing the state of the team generally. I don't follow college football closely enough to have a great opinion on individual players.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Cap is all fluff. When these numbers get talked about there is so much BS at the top.

Jalen Hurts' contract is a perfect example of it. When it was reported it was basically the top contract for a QB almost 2 years ago. It was reported as a 5 year 255 million deal and highest ever.

Go look at his cap hits. His highest is just under 42 mil and that's not until 2027.

Two things I know.

Brock Purdy has won us a lot of football games since coming in as a starter behind Jimmy.
Brock Purdy is the best QB we have available realistically to help us win football games next year.

I expect the 49ers and Brock to get a deal done and even if it seems HUGE at signing I would be absolutely shocked that when the details came out that he was going to have cap hits anywhere near the $60 mark people are throwing around and if there was a year on the books like that, it would be way down the road where the deal can be reworked.

Now can you draft QBs and develop them to hedge your bet with Brock? Sure. Should they try to recreate the 2021 situation and make a jump for a top QB in this class? Definitely not. It would be a massive mistake.

Build up the trenches around Brock. Kyle also really needs to assess how his offense is built/executed late in games to ensure we're not at a disadvantage when we just have to throw the ball.

Oh and get Deebo off this roster. No more feeding guys who can't beat man coverage.

I think this offseason would be a better time to make a move in the draft for QB than 2021 was. I don't expect they will though.

For who? The 2021 class was considered much stronger at the top...which is why you saw 5 QBs go in the top 5. Obviously 4 of the 5 are no longer on their drafting team and even Trevor Lawrence the generational type prospect hasn't looked well.

Our roster has way more holes than it did in 2021. So you want to move up and draft worse prospects while we have a much better QB than the guy we were trying to replace last time?

Also what about that move in 2021 showed you that this regime can properly evaluate QB prospects?

Personally I'm terrified of Kyle/John making another big investment at the position. Definitely with the state of our roster right now.