QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Not so easy to play quarterback without CMC.

Every QB to play with CMC in Carolina was horrible.

Just like every QB to play with Barry Sanders for 10 years, with the exception of Scott Mitchell in 1995.

Most of the great RBs played with QBs who did horribly.

Crediting CMC for Brock is laughable.

Cam Newton had his best season outside of his MVP year with McCaffrey running/receiving 1900 yards and 13 TDs

Love how you exclude his MVP year to fit your narrative. You already proved that Cam Newton was good before CMC got there. Not to mention Newton was a 4k passer in his rookie season.

Damn 52% yes 48% no? It was only a matter of time until our fans turned on him. Just like Montana, Young, Garcia, Alex, Shaun Hill, Kaepernick, Jimmy and now Purdy.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Damn 52% yes 48% no? It was only a matter of time until our fans turned on him. Just like Montana, Young, Garcia, Alex, Shaun Hill, Kaepernick, Jimmy and now Purdy.

When we needed purdy most he hasn't shown up. What do you expect people to say? Fans are frustrated we thought we had a possible top 10 QB and it turns out he's more than likely just a mid tier guy: good, not great, doesn't elevate much of anyone but can be productive if he executes the gameplay Papa shanny shovels out

Pay him. No he's not perfect and yes we'd be betting that he continues to improve. It's a bet I'd be willing to make.

All I can say is they absolutely need some major outs on his deal. I'd draft a QB too so we have someone in development in case he continues to falter.

Originally posted by 91til:
Pay him. No he's not perfect and yes we'd be betting that he continues to improve. It's a bet I'd be willing to make.

Pay him what though? Pay him 35M per year.....sure, no problem. Pay him 60M per year.....no thanks, that would be stupid imo. He is good.....he is not elite. He has not earned an elite salary.

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by 91til:
Pay him. No he's not perfect and yes we'd be betting that he continues to improve. It's a bet I'd be willing to make.

Pay him what though? Pay him 35M per year.....sure, no problem. Pay him 60M per year.....no thanks, that would be stupid imo. He is good.....he is not elite. He has not earned an elite salary.

The market is the market. He's not gonna take 35 and we'll find a way to make it look near 60 and have outs and find a way to continue to build around him. The cap's gonna keep going up. 60M isn't gonna look crazy in 2 years. We find gems late in the draft almost every year. He doesn't have to be a top 5 "elite" TALENT if he can be the ~6th best QB in the league, if he can be 90-95% of Joe Burrow or Drew Brees, you can win a Super Bowl with that. Just my take

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Pay him what though? Pay him 35M per year.....sure, no problem. Pay him 60M per year.....no thanks, that would be stupid imo. He is good.....he is not elite. He has not earned an elite salary.

Do you guys think this is paying for a consumer product or something?

There is no "worth it" for a starting quarterback. If he's the guy, you pay him whatever. If he's not the guy, you don't even start him, and then you don't pay him more than you'd pay a backup.

I don't want Derek Carr at 60 million and I don't want Derek Carr at 20 million either. I wouldn't want Derek Carr for more than 2 million, because Carr is not a good starter. I wouldn't want Carr as a starting QB.

Originally posted by tommyncal:
No it's not. Teams are very hesitant to play man coverage against CMC. But without him, no problem, Purdy isn't great against man

Man coverage against a running back? Or do you mean when he's in the slot? Because they usually play him with man coverage when he's in the slot. Purdy threw multiple tight window touchdowns to him against man when he was lined up in the slot.

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by 91til:
Pay him. No he's not perfect and yes we'd be betting that he continues to improve. It's a bet I'd be willing to make.

Pay him what though? Pay him 35M per year.....sure, no problem. Pay him 60M per year.....no thanks, that would be stupid imo. He is good.....he is not elite. He has not earned an elite salary.

Purdy is better than Cousins, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray. ALL GOT PAID.

The church choir boy in Brock Purdy would except the $35 million but the NFL QB Brock Purdy will get $50+ million. That's the market.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Purdy is better than Cousins, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray. ALL GOT PAID.

The church choir boy in Brock Purdy would except the $35 million but the NFL QB Brock Purdy will get $50+ million. That's the market.

He's not better than Kyler lol.

I'm not sure that he's better than any of those guys besides carr & watson

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Purdy is better than Cousins, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray. ALL GOT PAID.

The church choir boy in Brock Purdy would except the $35 million but the NFL QB Brock Purdy will get $50+ million. That's the market.

He's not better than Kyler lol.

I'm not sure that he's better than any of those guys besides carr & watson

The problem is players aren't being paid based on how good they are. It's a pissing contest to see who can get the highest contract. No way any of these guys are actually worth what they get paid. Fans will watch football no matter how much they pay the players. Those same fans will complain if food prices rise 5% .

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Purdy is better than Cousins, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray. ALL GOT PAID.

The church choir boy in Brock Purdy would except the $35 million but the NFL QB Brock Purdy will get $50+ million. That's the market.

He's not better than Kyler lol.

I'm not sure that he's better than any of those guys besides carr & watson

now you are just lying to yourself

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:
Pay him what though? Pay him 35M per year.....sure, no problem. Pay him 60M per year.....no thanks, that would be stupid imo. He is good.....he is not elite. He has not earned an elite salary.

Do you guys think this is paying for a consumer product or something?

There is no "worth it" for a starting quarterback. If he's the guy, you pay him whatever. If he's not the guy, you don't even start him, and then you don't pay him more than you'd pay a backup.

I don't want Derek Carr at 60 million and I don't want Derek Carr at 20 million either. I wouldn't want Derek Carr for more than 2 million, because Carr is not a good starter. I wouldn't want Carr as a starting QB.

>>>Do you guys think this is paying for a consumer product or something?

Obviously they would be paying for "something".....how can you not see that? The "something" in this case is " a service"....specifically the service of playing at the starting QB position in the NFL. You pay for value, you don't pay whatever they want because they are starters.

>>>There is no "worth it" for a starting quarterback. If he's the guy, you pay him whatever.

Ah NO.....that is simply not correct. Take a basic business course if you really think that. The front office will evaluate his service and potential future service and other factors, and determine what is a fair price for that service ( i.e. value ). You seem to be suggesting that all starting QB's are equal....that they are either a starting QB and should get paid "whatever", or they are not a starting QB and shouldn't. Obviously there are different talent levels of starting QB;s. e.g, Montana and Mahomes were elite QB's....they should get paid as elite QB's. It's more complicated than bucket 1 is starting QB's and pay them whatever they want, or they are bucket 2 QB's and not starting QB's, so pay them almost nothing. Whether you want to admit it or not, there are some QB's who are worth bigger contracts than other starting QB's. Your inability to distinguish between elite versus good QB's is what I am disagreeing with, not whether of not you personally agree that Brock is worth $60M per year.

>>>I don't want Derek Carr at 60 million and I don't want Derek Carr at 20 million either. I wouldn't want Derek Carr for more than 2 million, because Carr is not a good starter. I wouldn't want Carr as a starting QB.

Okay, and you are entitled to that opinion. However, you have contradicted yourself. You mention that Carr is not a good starter......but he is a starting QB and you claimed that there is no "worth it" for starting QB's, you just pay them whatever. Now you are claiming that he is only worth $2M. You can't have it both ways.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Purdy is better than Cousins, Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Kyler Murray. ALL GOT PAID.

The church choir boy in Brock Purdy would except the $35 million but the NFL QB Brock Purdy will get $50+ million. That's the market.

He's not better than Kyler lol.

I'm not sure that he's better than any of those guys besides carr & watson

Agree with you frenchmov.