QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I personally would move on from Purdy. Let him go elsewhere and score on average 10-12 points each game.

And get who?

Dobbs..

Baker

I like Brock but I'm trying to understand something here....

Fans and media say that when he doesn't play well, it's because he is missing his weapons. BUT we are able to have these weapons because of his rookie contract. So if we sign him to a big contract (and we have BOI predicting that we sign him to a 60mil per year deal), we are not going to be able to keep some of these weapons. Or sign weapons to replace them, new weapons as good as his past weapons. We are not going to be able to get those kinds of players on cheap contracts.

Before this season, I believed that Brock could play with not so good weapons. Like how Brady did in his first Super Bowl year... elevating players around him. That he didn't need elite players everywhere. Just give him some time, and he'll place the ball where it needs to be to keep the chains moving.

But this season's play (and the Super Bowl loss was the start of it) shows me that if we do have that kind of QB in Brock, we will not see that with Kyle Shanahan has HC/Offensive playcaller.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I like Brock but I'm trying to understand something here....

Fans and media say that when he doesn't play well, it's because he is missing his weapons. BUT we are able to have these weapons because of his rookie contract. So if we sign him to a big contract (and we have BOI predicting that we sign him to a 60mil per year deal), we are not going to be able to keep some of these weapons. Or sign weapons to replace them, new weapons as good as his past weapons. We are not going to be able to get those kinds of players on cheap contracts.

Before this season, I believed that Brock could play with not so good weapons. Like how Brady did in his first Super Bowl year... elevating players around him. That he didn't need elite players everywhere. Just give him some time, and he'll place the ball where it needs to be to keep the chains moving.

But this season's play (and the Super Bowl loss was the start of it) shows me that if we do have that kind of QB in Brock, we will not see that with Kyle Shanahan has HC/Offensive playcaller.

It would help if players like your son Deebo had any type of pride and played with some urgency and professionalism. Would also help if Purdy had WR's who actually fit his skill set and not Jimmy's.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I like Brock but I'm trying to understand something here....

Fans and media say that when he doesn't play well, it's because he is missing his weapons. BUT we are able to have these weapons because of his rookie contract. So if we sign him to a big contract (and we have BOI predicting that we sign him to a 60mil per year deal), we are not going to be able to keep some of these weapons. Or sign weapons to replace them, new weapons as good as his past weapons. We are not going to be able to get those kinds of players on cheap contracts.

Before this season, I believed that Brock could play with not so good weapons. Like how Brady did in his first Super Bowl year... elevating players around him. That he didn't need elite players everywhere. Just give him some time, and he'll place the ball where it needs to be to keep the chains moving.

But this season's play (and the Super Bowl loss was the start of it) shows me that if we do have that kind of QB in Brock, we will not see that with Kyle Shanahan has HC/Offensive playcaller.

It would help if players like your son Deebo had any type of pride and played with some urgency and professionalism. Would also help if Purdy had WR's who actually fit his skill set and not Jimmy's.

Really wish they would get Jacob Cowing more time, he's got the speed to make plays anywhere on the field. I also wish they would elevate Russell Gage and get him some playing time over Chris Conley.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I like Brock but I'm trying to understand something here....

Fans and media say that when he doesn't play well, it's because he is missing his weapons. BUT we are able to have these weapons because of his rookie contract. So if we sign him to a big contract (and we have BOI predicting that we sign him to a 60mil per year deal), we are not going to be able to keep some of these weapons. Or sign weapons to replace them, new weapons as good as his past weapons. We are not going to be able to get those kinds of players on cheap contracts.

Before this season, I believed that Brock could play with not so good weapons. Like how Brady did in his first Super Bowl year... elevating players around him. That he didn't need elite players everywhere. Just give him some time, and he'll place the ball where it needs to be to keep the chains moving.

But this season's play (and the Super Bowl loss was the start of it) shows me that if we do have that kind of QB in Brock, we will not see that with Kyle Shanahan has HC/Offensive playcaller.

It would help if players like your son Deebo had any type of pride and played with some urgency and professionalism. Would also help if Purdy had WR's who actually fit his skill set and not Jimmy's.

See this just seems like reaching. Which kind of WR skill set is best for Brock? Deebo usually catches that pass he dropped against the Rams. He does not all the sudden have some butter fingers. We have not lost games this season because Deebo dropped a bunch of passes.

Yall act like Brock has not played bad this season. Bad ints, missed TDs, etc. I don't totally blame him. I more so blame Kyle. Kyle has ignored the Oline for years. Kyle hasn't protected his players. Ran CMC into the ground last year, when he had a capable backup in Mason there to preserve CMC. Runs Deebo up the middle against big ass linemen. Ran Trey Lance up the middle until he got hurt. Had Brock still dropping back to pass in a blowout game, when the backup of the backup olinemen was injured.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Really wish they would get Jacob Cowing more time, he's got the speed to make plays anywhere on the field. I also wish they would elevate Russell Gage and get him some playing time over Chris Conley.

No idea why Conley gets playing time.

saw a statistic that Brock is awful against man coverage. No thanks, give me another QB

I guess ppl are gunna whine and b***h about Purdy till next season

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I like Brock but I'm trying to understand something here....

Fans and media say that when he doesn't play well, it's because he is missing his weapons. BUT we are able to have these weapons because of his rookie contract. So if we sign him to a big contract (and we have BOI predicting that we sign him to a 60mil per year deal), we are not going to be able to keep some of these weapons. Or sign weapons to replace them, new weapons as good as his past weapons. We are not going to be able to get those kinds of players on cheap contracts.

Before this season, I believed that Brock could play with not so good weapons. Like how Brady did in his first Super Bowl year... elevating players around him. That he didn't need elite players everywhere. Just give him some time, and he'll place the ball where it needs to be to keep the chains moving.

But this season's play (and the Super Bowl loss was the start of it) shows me that if we do have that kind of QB in Brock, we will not see that with Kyle Shanahan has HC/Offensive playcaller.

Do you pay 60 million to someone that can't play in inclement weather ? That's a harrowing thought considering we play in Santa Clara, where it can always rain in December and January when it counts

Conley might as well be in the witness protection program for wayward NFL WRs.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by mcwoot:
Saw a post on twitter today that shows Purdy is the #1 QB when facing Zone and the number 34 or something against man (they were obviously counting multiple starters per team). Between the scheme, playcalling, offensive players, and Purdy himself they've got to get that solved or we won't be winning a lombardy anytime soon.

This is a huge red flag. Huge.

Yeah for sure especially in Kyle's scheme known for attacking man to man coverages. Especially with our top receivers being healthy and know. Man-beaters. No excuses for Brock… red flag! Huge

I beg to differ.

If Kyle wants to do that, he needs more guys like Aiyuk who run precise patterns, and fewer guys like Deebo and JJ. When BA went down, there was no one who could attack man. Piersall was supposed to augment that but we know how that turned out. It wasn't Purdy's fault the receivers couldn't separate against man.

The receivers are a problem this year. The scheme is a problem as well. But I think we can all agree that Brock has regressed this year, and it isn't all because of those aforementioned things. He's missing open receivers in stride. He's underthrowing guys open deep. He's not making those anticipatory throws he was making last year. He's missing on the easy checkdowns. His pocket awareness hasn't been all that great this year. A lot of his passes are being tipped. And he's thrown some awful interceptions at the most inopportune times.

so yes. His receivers haven't helped him, neither has Kyle's bland offensive plays. But Brock is doing a lot of damage just by playing average.

I think him being the worst against man coverage is a massive flaw you can't just put on the receivers.

Plenty of other QBs have found a way to get the ball to their guy against man with lesser talent. It's called throwing guys open and being able to read your receiver.

Purdy looks like he struggles massively with the above. At least this year for whatever reason.. When's the last time we saw a back shoulder throw? He has missed Pearsall deep multiple times. A lot of slant plays have been badly airmailed.

Obviously he can still improve but, you never want to see your starting QB ranked last in anything important.

Originally posted by Furlow:
It would help if players like your son Deebo had any type of pride and played with some urgency and professionalism. Would also help if Purdy had WR's who actually fit his skill set and not Jimmy's.

not following this? Literally had the same guys as last yr and had a great year…told folks BA mattered but people got caught up in their feelings because of the business side of stuff.

IMO Ricky has also been getting open, but not getting targeted (or it's been inaccurate) they gotta build chemistry and unfortunately getting shot/being banged up during off season workouts hurt that chemistry.

Originally posted by sick9erfan:

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
60 mil is a great starting point.
-10 for lack of physical gifts
-5 for turnover issues
About 45 per is right in his wheelhouse IMHO, PROBABLY closer to 50 but that's just inflation.
The next top 5 guy will probably be in the 70-80 range with inflation

Purdy is not a top 5 guy

Yeah that's why I said pay him 50.

he should be getting that Baker Mayfield deal, ball out then get paid crazy money in a couple yrs.

In no way should he be getting elite money. His agent has clearly been pushing that's what he will be asking for this off season. Gonna be another stupid off season standoff.

Brock sucks this year cause his only weapon is Jennings and a star TightEnd that uses all his energy for blocking.