QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
He's not in the Trevor Lawrence, Tua or Kirk Cousins class. Yah okay, lemme guess his arm strength and can't play in the bad weather thing right. Lol

But Brock Purdy still managed to get to the NFCC in 2022 and Super Bowl in 2023.

The point of the post was that there are only five ish guys in that class and we shouldn't make the same mistake other teams did.

Nobody is really arguing Lawrence,Tua, or Cousins should have been paid what they were and saying Brock doesn't deserve that kind of contract. Those guys are being used as examples by people who are willing to pay Purdy.

Dude just said he's not in that class, do you think that too?

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dude just said he's not in that class, do you think that too?

He said he's not in the top 5 guy class. And of course I think that. I didn't think he was top 5 last year either. Coming into this season I thought he was a fringe top 10 QB. Ranked him right about 9.

I certainly think he's better than Tua, and definitely current Cousins as well. He's been better than Lawrence as well, but Lawrence flashes potential Brock doesn't have. Who knows if he'll ever get there.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
OTC gonna disagree with you here. You say Brock hasn't earned a top of the market deal? Who really has though, Jordan Love was paid after one good year. Trevor Lawrence has really done s**t in the NFL. Don't tell me Tua hasn't earned earned his contract either. Sam Darnold is about to be paid pretty damn good but for what, this past year?

If anyone has earned anything, it's Brock Purdy. People are down on him because of this bad year that really hasn't been all that bad.

Just a quick analogy, you're in the hospital visiting your kid. "Timmy, why did you jump off that cliff into the water?" He replies, 'My friends all did it."
There's probably only 5 QBS that deserve that $55-60M contract. I don't believe B Purdy is in that class. All the agents and players union want him to sign it, so the pressure is on the 49ers FO.

Smfh but I bet you weren't saying this last season. Yah that's what I thought.

Actually, I was saying ' I want to see at least 1 more year of Purdy before paying him big time'. But, Yah. you probably didn't hear me

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 1ovydog:
How come other QBs get a pass when they are complimented with great players and BP doesn't. You think Sam Darnold, Matt Stanford or Joe Burroughs would be better than Brock with the same issues, such as, fourth string RB, no true number one receiver, broken o-line? I do agree that Brock has made some poor decisions but I also think his arm is injured more than we actually are being told and his supporting cast except for George and JJ is below average. Oh and the defense and ST blows too but that's another rant but adds to the equation.

Burrow has been pressured 120 times this yr vs brock's 87. Burrow's been deal with backup RBs all yr and has one of the worst Ds in the NFL. He's currently got 4,000 yards 36TDs and 8 interceptions.

CJ is the most pressured QB in the NFL and has lost Diggs and Collins for big parts of the year (if we're gonna go that route).

this OL has Brock as the 11th least pressured QB in football currently.

You're not being objective if you think Brock is as good as Burrow and Stafford. CJ is objectively more talented.

NYniner85, you ATE with this comment. Honestly there is nothing to refute or debate at all here. Brock Purdy is simply not as good as Burrow. Never has been and never will be. That's what a franchise QB looks like. Brock is not that guy, he will benefit from the market and position he plays but there are levels. I can tell you this much, if the Niners had Burrow last year, they would have dog walked the Chiefs in the super bowl.

Also it's not like I don't like Brock or think he's a good QB. He's just not in that Burrow class. Not sure why that's debatable

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Dude just said he's not in that class, do you think that too?

He said he's not in the top 5 guy class. And of course I think that. I didn't think he was top 5 last year either. Coming into this season I thought he was a fringe top 10 QB. Ranked him right about 9.

I certainly think he's better than Tua, and definitely current Cousins as well. He's been better than Lawrence as well, but Lawrence flashes potential Brock doesn't have. Who knows if he'll ever get there.

Go look at his post again. No one is bringing up top 5, at least not in my post.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Go look at his post again. No one is bringing up top 5, at least not in my post.

The post he responded to did. That post said only 5 guys deserve to be paid like that and that poster didn't think he was in that class. The poster you responded to said he wasn't definitively. Go back and re-read them yourself.

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
OTC gonna disagree with you here. You say Brock hasn't earned a top of the market deal? Who really has though, Jordan Love was paid after one good year. Trevor Lawrence has really done s**t in the NFL. Don't tell me Tua hasn't earned earned his contract either. Sam Darnold is about to be paid pretty damn good but for what, this past year?

If anyone has earned anything, it's Brock Purdy. People are down on him because of this bad year that really hasn't been all that bad.

Just a quick analogy, you're in the hospital visiting your kid. "Timmy, why did you jump off that cliff into the water?" He replies, 'My friends all did it."
There's probably only 5 QBS that deserve that $55-60M contract. I don't believe B Purdy is in that class. All the agents and players union want him to sign it, so the pressure is on the 49ers FO.

Smfh but I bet you weren't saying this last season. Yah that's what I thought.

Actually, I was saying ' I want to see at least 1 more year of Purdy before paying him big time'. But, Yah. you probably didn't hear me

Yah you're not the GM or Jed so you're not gonna get that one year. Like it or not they're paying Purdy.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Go look at his post again. No one is bringing up top 5, at least not in my post.

The post he responded to did. That post said only 5 guys deserve to be paid like that and that poster didn't think he was in that class. The poster you responded to said he wasn't definitively. Go back and re-read them yourself.

I was talking about hubbyt's post. Not tommyncal. Sorry got mixed up.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
He's not in the Trevor Lawrence, Tua or Kirk Cousins class. Yah okay, lemme guess his arm strength and can't play in the bad weather thing right. Lol

But Brock Purdy still managed to get to the NFCC in 2022 and Super Bowl in 2023.

The point of the post was that there are only five ish guys in that class and we shouldn't make the same mistake other teams did.

Nobody is really arguing Lawrence,Tua, or Cousins should have been paid what they were and saying Brock doesn't deserve that kind of contract. Those guys are being used as examples by people who are willing to pay Purdy.

Thanks for explaining it to him. It won't matter though.

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Just a quick analogy, you're in the hospital visiting your kid. "Timmy, why did you jump off that cliff into the water?" He replies, 'My friends all did it."
There's probably only 5 QBS that deserve that $55-60M contract. I don't believe B Purdy is in that class. All the agents and players union want him to sign it, so the pressure is on the 49ers FO.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I was talking about hubbyt's post. Not tommyncal. Sorry got mixed up.

It's no worries. Just wanted to make sure that it was clear neither guy was suggesting Purdy wasn't in Tua, Cousins or Lawrence's class. They were saying none of these dudes should be paid.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I was talking about hubbyt's post. Not tommyncal. Sorry got mixed up.

It's no worries. Just wanted to make sure that it was clear neither guy was suggesting Purdy wasn't in Tua, Cousins or Lawrence's class. They were saying none of these dudes should be paid.

Maybe Cousins, because he was in high demand, so highest bidder. But Tua or Lawrence didn't deserve those contract extensions.

But getting back to Purdy, like I said somewhere in this thread. The 49ers will pay him accordingly and will always protect the team, see Hargrave. So I'm nor worried.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Maybe Cousins, because he was in high demand, so highest bidder. But Tua or Lawrence didn't deserve those contract extensions.

But getting back to Purdy, like I said somewhere in this thread. The 49ers will pay him accordingly and will always protect the team, see Hargrave. So I'm nor worried.

Well some of us are worried about paying him. That's why conversation is happening.

I think it's fair to acknowledge that the team is going to pay him and also argue that it could end up being yet another mistake we've made at the position. We're clearly not immune there.

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Just a quick analogy, you're in the hospital visiting your kid. "Timmy, why did you jump off that cliff into the water?" He replies, 'My friends all did it."
There's probably only 5 QBS that deserve that $55-60M contract. I don't believe B Purdy is in that class. All the agents and players union want him to sign it, so the pressure is on the 49ers FO.

i don't see this as jumping off a cliff. there are a lot of ways to jump off a cliff. for example, lance a non functional guy for 3 ones, that was more of a cliff jump than say paying jimmy.

these deals aren't that big a deal. it's not fully gtd, there is no draft capital at stake, the deals usually start off pretty cap friendly and on it goes. there is also something to be said that brock earned it. he was a good teammate, good representative of the club, no complaints from him even when his throw arm blew up, just went to work. had to do 50 commercials to earn some scratch it seems.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I was talking about hubbyt's post. Not tommyncal. Sorry got mixed up.

It's no worries. Just wanted to make sure that it was clear neither guy was suggesting Purdy wasn't in Tua, Cousins or Lawrence's class. They were saying none of these dudes should be paid.

Maybe Cousins, because he was in high demand, so highest bidder. But Tua or Lawrence didn't deserve those contract extensions.

But getting back to Purdy, like I said somewhere in this thread. The 49ers will pay him accordingly and will always protect the team, see Hargrave. So I'm nor worried.

yeah no worries.. probably have incentive based guarantees and outs. restructure some other guys to sign FAs

We back in it in 2025 !

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 1ovydog:
How come other QBs get a pass when they are complimented with great players and BP doesn't. You think Sam Darnold, Matt Stanford or Joe Burroughs would be better than Brock with the same issues, such as, fourth string RB, no true number one receiver, broken o-line? I do agree that Brock has made some poor decisions but I also think his arm is injured more than we actually are being told and his supporting cast except for George and JJ is below average. Oh and the defense and ST blows too but that's another rant but adds to the equation.

Burrow has been pressured 120 times this yr vs brock's 87. Burrow's been deal with backup RBs all yr and has one of the worst Ds in the NFL. He's currently got 4,000 yards 36TDs and 8 interceptions.

CJ is the most pressured QB in the NFL and has lost Diggs and Collins for big parts of the year (if we're gonna go that route).

this OL has Brock as the 11th least pressured QB in football currently.

You're not being objective if you think Brock is as good as Burrow and Stafford. CJ is objectively more talented.

NYniner85, you ATE with this comment. Honestly there is nothing to refute or debate at all here. Brock Purdy is simply not as good as Burrow. Never has been and never will be. That's what a franchise QB looks like. Brock is not that guy, he will benefit from the market and position he plays but there are levels. I can tell you this much, if the Niners had Burrow last year, they would have dog walked the Chiefs in the super bowl.

Also it's not like I don't like Brock or think he's a good QB. He's just not in that Burrow class. Not sure why that's debatable

Purdy would probably be better if he had the Bengals weapons, no? Or is Purdy the only QB in the NFL who gets knocked for having good weapons?