QB Brock Purdy Thread

I wouldn't capitulate to players like we've been doing unless they are truly top at their position. We need to stop with that. And what better way to make an example than the QB position. But that's just me.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Just for fun . . .

Tua , in 2022, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards / attempt, passer rating & MVP candidate. In 2023 led the NFL in yards, in 2024 leading the NFL in completion %

Purdy, in 2023, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards/attempt. passer rating & MVP candidate. This year has struggled.

Are they really that far apart? Don't make the mistake the Dolphins did.

the lions paid goff, now what do we think of that 'mistake'? it's about what you put around your QB. goff is no magic QB, he just has a lot of talent around him.

i just don't see any world where you don't pay QB1, QB1 dollars. let us suppose we abandon purdy and sign some daniel jones for 1 year 10 mil. ok, if he stinks our team stinks. if he does well, ok, now we have to pay him. simply no getting around the fact that your QB1 will want QB1 dollars. you may get a rook or a reclamation project, but if those don't work, you are screwed. if those do work, you have to pay up.

Are you a Shanahan supporter? Don't you think he could find another QB to run his system? Purdy's good years came with an elite cast. Deebo, Aiyuk, CMC, T Williams, etc. Next year> Deebo is washed or gone, Aiyuk is out for the first 7-8 games and then still an unknown after surgery, CMC is 1 year shy of 30 with PCL & achilles issues and Williams, at this poiint, is average at best. Pay Purdy $60M and where is his elite cast coming from?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Regarding Brock, do we really have to make a decision this off-season? Seems like a majority of our da base believes it's this off-season or nothing.

We still have him under contract for one more year. And after that can place the same tag Ravens placed on LJ. Two first rounders or sign him to market value.

If Brock comes to the table with his mind made up this off-season with being paid top dollar I would punt it until next offseason and make him prove it one more year.

100 percent what I would like to see happen.

It's crazy to think we'll ask him to come back and play for a million IMO… and more than crazy it's unlikely he would without having a threat to overtake him on the roster. I imagine we have plans on trying to win next season. Need a QB for that.

It sounds crazy but f**k it. Brock has been under paid, but we can't pay him for past seasons. We need to be honest about what he's going to be going forward. I still believe Purdy can be a good QB and if FO believes the same then pay him. But if there's any doubt don't f**king do it just because we are afraid of the unknown. It's worse IMO to handcuff ourselves just because we're scared of the unknown.

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Just for fun . . .

Tua , in 2022, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards / attempt, passer rating & MVP candidate. In 2023 led the NFL in yards, in 2024 leading the NFL in completion %

Purdy, in 2023, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards/attempt. passer rating & MVP candidate. This year has struggled.

Are they really that far apart? Don't make the mistake the Dolphins did.

the lions paid goff, now what do we think of that 'mistake'? it's about what you put around your QB. goff is no magic QB, he just has a lot of talent around him.

i just don't see any world where you don't pay QB1, QB1 dollars. let us suppose we abandon purdy and sign some daniel jones for 1 year 10 mil. ok, if he stinks our team stinks. if he does well, ok, now we have to pay him. simply no getting around the fact that your QB1 will want QB1 dollars. you may get a rook or a reclamation project, but if those don't work, you are screwed. if those do work, you have to pay up.

Are you a Shanahan supporter? Don't you think he could find another QB to run his system? Purdy's good years came with an elite cast. Deebo, Aiyuk, CMC, T Williams, etc. Next year> Deebo is washed or gone, Aiyuk is out for the first 7-8 games and then still an unknown after surgery, CMC is 1 year shy of 30 with PCL & achilles issues and Williams, at this poiint, is average at best. Pay Purdy $60M and where is his elite ncast coming from?

shanny supporter, yes
can he find another QB, not really. prior to brock we invested 3 ones in lance. total train wreck. his QB track record is not great.

on the contract, understand even if it's high AAV, it starts pretty small. the cap hits don't start at 60m. just look around the league. for example, jordan love, he got paid, here are the cap hits:

20m
29m
36m

does that sound tough? or anything like 60m?

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Just for fun . . .

Tua , in 2022, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards / attempt, passer rating & MVP candidate. In 2023 led the NFL in yards, in 2024 leading the NFL in completion %

Purdy, in 2023, led the NFL in . . . TD%, Yards/attempt. passer rating & MVP candidate. This year has struggled.

Are they really that far apart? Don't make the mistake the Dolphins did.

the lions paid goff, now what do we think of that 'mistake'? it's about what you put around your QB. goff is no magic QB, he just has a lot of talent around him.

i just don't see any world where you don't pay QB1, QB1 dollars. let us suppose we abandon purdy and sign some daniel jones for 1 year 10 mil. ok, if he stinks our team stinks. if he does well, ok, now we have to pay him. simply no getting around the fact that your QB1 will want QB1 dollars. you may get a rook or a reclamation project, but if those don't work, you are screwed. if those do work, you have to pay up.

Are you a Shanahan supporter? Don't you think he could find another QB to run his system? Purdy's good years came with an elite cast. Deebo, Aiyuk, CMC, T Williams, etc. Next year> Deebo is washed or gone, Aiyuk is out for the first 7-8 games and then still an unknown after surgery, CMC is 1 year shy of 30 with PCL & achilles issues and Williams, at this poiint, is average at best. Pay Purdy $60M and where is his elite cast coming from?

we didn't have an elite cast in 2019.. so anything is possible.

The great part about this is with those guys being healthy next year and good FA/draft we can be up there with the SB favorites

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
It sounds crazy but f**k it. Brock has been under paid, but we can't pay him for past seasons. We need to be honest about what he's going to be going forward. I still believe Purdy can be a good QB and if FO believes the same then pay him. But if there's any doubt don't f**king do it just because we are afraid of the unknown. It's worse IMO to handcuff ourselves just because we're scared of the unknown.

I def agree and if I ran the team I'd dare him to hold out and would prepare for it just in case.

I expect he will be signed.

I've been a huge Purdy supporter and have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a lot this season, but I just can't get that last INT against the Rams out of my head. It was a one of his most retarded plays I've seen from him. With the season on the line. You just can't do that. And then to come to The negotiation table and ask for top dollar.

lol no.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
It sounds crazy but f**k it. Brock has been under paid, but we can't pay him for past seasons. We need to be honest about what he's going to be going forward. I still believe Purdy can be a good QB and if FO believes the same then pay him. But if there's any doubt don't f**king do it just because we are afraid of the unknown. It's worse IMO to handcuff ourselves just because we're scared of the unknown.

I def agree and if I ran the team I'd dare him to hold out and would prepare for it just in case.

I expect he will be signed.

Exactly what I would do. Make him hold out if he wants to play hard ball. His Christian good boy aura will quickly dissipate amongst the fan base.(not saying he really isn't. Seems like a really good stand up dude. Just saying regarding perception) I don't really think he wants to do that.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I've been a huge Purdy supporter and have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a lot this season, but I just can't get that last INT against the Rams out of my head. It was a one of his most retarded plays I've seen from him. With the season on the line. You just can't do that. And then to come to The negotiation table and ask for top dollar.

lol no.

i've been wondering about his play since week two.. and it's just boggling

Kirk Cousins might be done in Atlanta…..

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I've been a huge Purdy supporter and have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a lot this season, but I just can't get that last INT against the Rams out of my head. It was a one of his most retarded plays I've seen from him. With the season on the line. You just can't do that. And then to come to The negotiation table and ask for top dollar.

lol no.

Or you could see it as a jump ball to a great jump ball guy who was disrupted in his route and made it look alot worse than it was. Brock throws to spots and expects his guy to get there, most the time they do but some times it just looks awefull. Can't ask him to stop doing the thing that makes him special.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I've been a huge Purdy supporter and have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a lot this season, but I just can't get that last INT against the Rams out of my head. It was a one of his most retarded plays I've seen from him. With the season on the line. You just can't do that. And then to come to The negotiation table and ask for top dollar.

lol no.

i've been wondering about his play since week two.. and it's just boggling

He had some good games this season. But overall, he's been shaky. I'm not gonna pretend he hasn't.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If I'm Lynch, I play hard ball. Purdy hasn't earned a top of the market deal, period. I'm sorry he just hasn't. 1.5 years of good play and 1 year of mostly mediocre with a few absolutely horrific games sprinkled in, is not deserving of that type of money.

We don't know for sure that he's a franchise guy. We should learn from our mistake with Jimmy. Jimmy turned a total loser in a winner and he was actually better in close games. Brock simply sustained what we had the past couple years, but when more got put on him, he crumbled in the spotlight.

I love Brock as a person and leader. He's a great scrambler and he scorches zone. But he is physically limited as a thrower, has a bad propensity for WTF throws, not seeing the whole field, being greedy, and is statistically the worst the NFL against man coverage. When teams figure you out, if you can't adjust -- and he's shown so far he can't -- then it tells me you unfortunately aren't the guy.

I agree with all this. I'm not handing him a quarter billion dollars. The mayfield deal is fair imo. He gets generational wealth and a chance to cash in a lot more in the near future. It gives SF breathing room both cap wise and in case we need to go elsewhere at QB

IMO, Purdy needs to drop the gunslinger mentality. Or at least turn it down a bit. To be an effective gunslinger, you need to have a gun of an arm to make those type of throws, and he doesn't have that. He needs to play within the limits of his abilities and not hurt the team with bad plays. Take a page out of the Alex Smith style of play and take the checkdown or the short, safe route from time to time. Play smart and efficient.

To me, this season in ways has been humbling for him. He has been figured out a bit, as the top-tier teams just play man and dare him to make those tight throws, and he's struggling. And then the bad weather games have been ugly, and I don't know how he overcomes that.

I am in the camp of wait and see versus paying him top money now. Play it out next season, if we get more if what we are seeing this year versus last year, then adjust accordingly.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i've been wondering about his play since week two.. and it's just boggling

LOL

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
Or you could see it as a jump ball to a great jump ball guy who was disrupted in his route and made it look alot worse than it was. Brock throws to spots and expects his guy to get there, most the time they do but some times it just looks awefull. Can't ask him to stop doing the thing that makes him special.