QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by taney71:
What's Love at? 55m? Tua is at 53m, right? I'm guessing he's going to want closer to 60m.

Love is costing the Packers $20 million this year, $30 million next year, the numbers don't get crazy until like 2027 by which time several new big QB contracts will have been signed.

Regardless of what Purdy gets, it wouldn't amount to a significant cap issue until three or four years down the road.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
I think most people would generally agree that Purdy deserves to be paid. I also think most people believe that the 'next man up' when it comes to getting paid is flawed. There is no way I'll agree to a system that puts a good 10 QB's or so getting paid more than Josh Allen or Pat Mahomes. I can see a couple of guys, like Burrow and Lamar....Herbert as well....but not guys like Lawrence, Kyler, Goff, Hurts, Tua, Prescott, Love, etc. etc..

Exactly!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by taney71:
What's Love at? 55m? Tua is at 53m, right? I'm guessing he's going to want closer to 60m.

Love is costing the Packers $20 million this year, $30 million next year, the numbers don't get crazy until like 2027 by which time several new big QB contracts will have been signed.

Regardless of what Purdy gets, it wouldn't amount to a significant cap issue until three or four years down the road.

that's what i am saying

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I chuckled that the "annual contract value doesnt matter" guy used annual contract value to make a point.

He can sign for 60 and not count for 60 against the cap. And by the end of the contract 60 won't be far off from 13%

I don't follow? Pointing out only Mahomes has won a SB while eating up 13% of the teams total cap THAT yr isn't the same as taking the total that he "could" earn and dividing it by the amount of years.

Not remotely close to the same thing

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
thank you. he was corrrectly dropping that on ppl for a while, and it's like he forgot his own advice.

Not even remotely close to the same…we will use your Goff example. He's got two yrs below that threshold. After that he's in no man's land as far as amount of cap space taken up and winning a SB. Only someone special like Mahomes has won eating that much cap space up….now the lions can restructure if they want, all that's gonna do is push that massive cap out a year and make it worse beyond that…won't matter if he's playing at an elite level. That's a big if.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
thank you. he was corrrectly dropping that on ppl for a while, and it's like he forgot his own advice.

Not even remotely close to the same…we will use your Goff example. He's got two yrs below that threshold. After that he's in no man's land as far as amount of cap space taken up and winning a SB. Only someone special like Mahomes has won eating that much cap space up….now the lions can restructure if they want, all that's gonna do is push that massive cap out a year and make it worse beyond that…won't matter if he's playing at an elite level. That's a big if.

the point i would make is you would probably have a hard time finding a lot of lions fans worried about goff's contract right now. that's pretty low on their worries. they are worried about the division, the injuries on D, home field for the playoffs and so forth. nfl is very easy on contracts. the sport doesn't fully guarantee deals and teams have a lot of manipulations they can do on contracts and on the cap. so my concern level is very low for what you are talking about. i accept the reality that you have to pay someone.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by captveg:
Cousins with Brendel is not gonna have results any better than the Falcons had this year.

Best way to improve Purdy's play is to upgrade at Center.

Again Brock is currently the 11th least pressured QB in the NFL. He's also near bottom of the league in pressures based off QBs who's played most of the season.

Brendel sucks, we all get it. This idea that the OL is the main reason for Brock inconsistent play is not true. It's not like Brock didn't have Brendel last yr all the same.

I've seen you post this in several threads now. For some reason, no one seems to acknowledge it, let alone comment on it.

I wonder why….

Easy because stats sometimes lie or don't match up with reality. You can be in denial about our pass pro.

By both of your flawed logic, I guess Darnold is better than Stroud Purdy and almost every other qb in the league. Check out the stats hahahahaahhaahaha.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
this thing is overblown. i see ppl paying goff and doing great. adding darnold and doing great. i see denver taking a record dead money hit and they are having a great year, with a bright young QB1. let's quit acting like this brock payday is the end of the franchise. it isn't.

Outside of Mahomes no QB that eats up more than 13% of their teams cap space has won a SB.

Thats not overblowing anything it's a fact.

massively overpaying any player is not good for business.

I chuckled that the "annual contract value doesnt matter" guy used annual contract value to make a point.

He can sign for 60 and not count for 60 against the cap. And by the end of the contract 60 won't be far off from 13%

60/0.13 = $461.5m. I bet we're putting 2 new divisions in Europe tomorrow.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the point i would make is you would probably have a hard time finding a lot of lions fans worried about goff's contract right now. that's pretty low on their worries. they are worried about the division, the injuries on D, home field for the playoffs and so forth. nfl is very easy on contracts. the sport doesn't fully guarantee deals and teams have a lot of manipulations they can do on contracts and on the cap. so my concern level is very low for what you are talking about. i accept the reality that you have to pay someone.

Yeah because he's done nothing but play well there lol. They didn't give him a big extension after playing horrible for a yr lol.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the point i would make is you would probably have a hard time finding a lot of lions fans worried about goff's contract right now. that's pretty low on their worries. they are worried about the division, the injuries on D, home field for the playoffs and so forth. nfl is very easy on contracts. the sport doesn't fully guarantee deals and teams have a lot of manipulations they can do on contracts and on the cap. so my concern level is very low for what you are talking about. i accept the reality that you have to pay someone.

Yeah because he's done nothing but play well there lol. They didn't give him a big extension after playing horrible for a yr lol.

why are you laughing so much?

Look this is my point. I'm not disagreeing that Brock is gonna get paid…probably massively overpaid. It's how the position goes.

my point is SF shouldn't have to be prisoner of that "next man up" contract negotiation tactic. He hasn't played well this yr, that's just a fact. That shouldn't equal top 5 contract ever talk.

yea you can navigate through the cap. Acting like there will be zero repercussions after paying Brock & him not being in that elite class is simply not true…last season could have been his best season ever, if you're betting on him being that and more in the future fine. I'm not 100% in agreement there.

It SF said hey Brock is available via trade, we want a couple 1sts (you know going rate for a good young franchise QB) does anyone think there's teams in the league lining up to give that up, just so they can pay him?? I highly doubt that's the case and folks need to think about that.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
why are you laughing so much?

Because I'm not taking your comments that serious. I don't take many posters super serious so I add a light hearted lol.

Also. I love when you don't have a rebuttal and you deflect to something that has nothing to do with what is being discussed LOL.

The way players and agents are now they seldom play out their contract. They may sign a contract that makes them the highest paid but 3 years later they'll want a new deal because other guys passed them by. This is a slippery slope that can't continue at this rate. If it does we'll be seeing QBs making over $100 mil per year by the end of the decade. There's no reason why their salaries should be increasing at this rate. It's nothing more than greed spurred on by agents.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
why are you laughing so much?

Because I'm not taking your comments that serious. I don't take many posters super serious so I add a light hearted lol.

Also. I love when you don't have a rebuttal and you deflect to something that has nothing to do with what is being discussed LOL.

he'll get paid. take it to the bank. when you don't like it, take it to the shanny thread. not the brock thread.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the season has devolved into a dumpster fire and now endless speculation on brock for months

Well we also learned today that Brendel and McKivitz are good players.