QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
$60M is also a steal. I explained that I think Purdy will accept less to help the team out.

It's not even 3 pm and you're already drinking?

So you think Brock is as good as Mahomes/burrow/allen?

I feel like folks need to drink with the stuff people are tossing out there

There are so many examples of "the best" not being the highest paid, the ever evolving NFL contract ecosystem is nuts.

I think Brock Purdy could pull off a Drew Brees level career....I think that is a possibility, but I think it is impossible to put Purdy into the conversation with. QB's that have elite physical traits, that also produce elite statistical results.

I think that reserving elite pay, for guys who can get elite results under the worst of circumstances is a very easy position to defend. It might not be historically accurate (since we can all think of guys who got the money when they should not have), but that is a sure fire way to protect a franchise from a mistake.

Brock, rightly has that product of the system label. I think Joe and Steve had it as well, but I think...Brock already has as many 3+ interception games as Joe Montana had in his career. I think things like that matter.

Personally I would not let Brock walk easily, but you really can't escape the reality that Brock needs a better line than he has to even get a fair evaluation.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Choked is not a word shannyfans should ever use to defend their position. Just saying.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Choked is not a word shannyfans should ever use to defend their position. Just saying.

That's how I feel about the words smart and logical from the fire Shanahan crowd.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Choked is not a word shannyfans should ever use to defend their position. Just saying.

That's how I feel about the words smart and logical from the fire Shanahan crowd.

Same can be said for the deebo still has it crowd.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Choked is not a word shannyfans should ever use to defend their position. Just saying.

I have to use your logic, so you can understand. Bold move by myself, but it may have worked

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
This year. Yes.

He hasn't won s**t last I checked…dude you're complaining about Kyle going to SBs and then want a OC who lost to Kyle in the playoffs

One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

lol, you didn't even know who Ben Johnson was before this year lol

now you want to bring facts lol

ben Johnson choked in last years NFCCG fact

Choked is not a word shannyfans should ever use to defend their position. Just saying.

That's how I feel about the words smart and logical from the fire Shanahan crowd.

Same can be said for the deebo still has it crowd.

That's not a very big crowd I don't even think there's 1 person saying that.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Yes I would move on from Kyle, if we can get Ben Johnson. Or someone else from Kyle's tree that is proving himself on another team. Yall might like Kyle's offense.. but there is a chance there might be someone out there running his system that might be a better Head Coach than him. Be a better gameday caller than him. Have the team more prepared than him. Protect our players and not run them into the ground. Use our backups to keep our star players fresh for most of the season and more importantly, in the playoffs.

Kyle Shanahan is not the end all be all when it comes to Head Coaches.. there are coaches out there right now doing more with less talent.. there some coaches have lost their starting QB for most of the season, and have similar records to us...

he is not going to be our Head Coach forever. I hope yall understand that.

Da f**k has Ben Johnson done? You ever watch his offense and how it's run? It's f**king no different than Kyle's, same principles.

acting like Kyle stinks all of a sudden coming off having the best offense in football last yr and scoring almost 29pts per game.

what a bad take

He has done more than the guy we are hoping pulls it together and gets the team back on track. That team is a scoring machine.

Ya he sure showed us last year in the playoffs 🤡

Bump for the Lions fan

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
$60M is also a steal. I explained that I think Purdy will accept less to help the team out.

It's not even 3 pm and you're already drinking?

So you think Brock is as good as Mahomes/burrow/allen?

I feel like folks need to drink with the stuff people are tossing out there

No one is ready for the Mahomes conversation lol. Burrow and Allen, no. But that's irrelevant. Player contracts aren't free floating and based on who's "best" at the time that they sign. No one thought Jimmy G was the greatest QB in the league when he signed his deal, which made him the highest paid player in the NFL.

Mahomes and Burrow will probably get $70M-$80M per on their next deals. In 2-3 years Purdy and $60M per won't even be top 10. That's part of the point to committing to them long term.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look this is my point. I'm not disagreeing that Brock is gonna get paid…probably massively overpaid. It's how the position goes.

my point is SF shouldn't have to be prisoner of that "next man up" contract negotiation tactic. He hasn't played well this yr, that's just a fact. That shouldn't equal top 5 contract ever talk.

yea you can navigate through the cap. Acting like there will be zero repercussions after paying Brock & him not being in that elite class is simply not true…last season could have been his best season ever, if you're betting on him being that and more in the future fine. I'm not 100% in agreement there.

It SF said hey Brock is available via trade, we want a couple 1sts (you know going rate for a good young franchise QB) does anyone think there's teams in the league lining up to give that up, just so they can pay him?? I highly doubt that's the case and folks need to think about that.

Still nothing in this 🤔🧐

No team will offer even offer 1-1st and pay him $50/60M. Purdy has no leverage in that regard.
NYG & LV are drafting QBs. NE, JAX & Car have their QBs. TEN-CLE-NYJ-SEA-PiT > all bad weather teams, nit a fit for Purdy. NO-MIA , stuck with mid QBs on bad contracts. Offer him mid money only.

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

It's one yr dude…One guy is coming off a SB run the other hasn't. DET isn't gonna get home field and just might have to play a football game outside a dome for once this yr.

I will evaluate the situation objectively. Like I always do.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Yes I would move on from Kyle, if we can get Ben Johnson. Or someone else from Kyle's tree that is proving himself on another team. Yall might like Kyle's offense.. but there is a chance there might be someone out there running his system that might be a better Head Coach than him. Be a better gameday caller than him. Have the team more prepared than him. Protect our players and not run them into the ground. Use our backups to keep our star players fresh for most of the season and more importantly, in the playoffs.

Kyle Shanahan is not the end all be all when it comes to Head Coaches.. there are coaches out there right now doing more with less talent.. there some coaches have lost their starting QB for most of the season, and have similar records to us...

he is not going to be our Head Coach forever. I hope yall understand that.

Da f**k has Ben Johnson done? You ever watch his offense and how it's run? It's f**king no different than Kyle's, same principles.

acting like Kyle stinks all of a sudden coming off having the best offense in football last yr and scoring almost 29pts per game.

what a bad take

He has done more than the guy we are hoping pulls it together and gets the team back on track. That team is a scoring machine.

Ya he sure showed us last year in the playoffs 🤡

Bump for the Lions fan

One guy has his team firing on all cylinders and is the #1 coaching prospect for next year and the other guy is the subject of trade rumors to the bears and has more and more talking heads discussing his future with the team. Don't be mad at me for pointing out the truth.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I was using a bit of hyperbole. But certain posters who have been anti-Purdy from the beginning are using anything possible to insult Purdy. Including defending our OL which has been banged up and inconsistent at best. We have literally the worst C in the entire NFL. #1 WR who's not a real #1 distracted because of his contract, comes in out of shape and ineffective, and then out for the season. Our #2 WR who's not even a true WR has been awful. Our starting RB is cooked. Our backup RB is injured. Our 1st round pick WR was shot and missed a lot of time.

Yet our QB is still top 10 in QBR, top 15 in QB rating, 13th in completion percentage, 12th in passing yards per game, 3rd in yards per attempt, 2nd in air yards per attempt, etc. He's been our steadiest and most consistent offensive player.

The contract extension he's going to get is going to be based (rightfully so) on his overall body of work. But some would have you believe that we should extend him (or even ask him to play out a lame duck rookie deal lol) based on this season only. It's ridiculous.

So, nobody said it.....but you want me to believe the entirety of your post, ie 'people have been anti-Purdy from the beginning' stuff for instance? That's the problem....if you're making s**t up to argue in the first place, that's on you.

Now, some of the post I can agree with - this is just a lost season and it's drowned the entire franchise for the season, and I don't hold that against Purdy. The fact though is, HE'S also been part of a problem (Thursdays int was unacceptable). He's been fairly average this year, and SF is about to pay him for his future contribution. Again as I've stated....I believe most everybody thinks Purdy should get a huge payday, but he shouldn't be resetting any markets just because someone like Dak Prescott did. Most people think the current QB salaries are insane, and how 'the next one up' almost regardless of whom it is (save for someone like Baker), should be the highest paid.

It seemed like obvious hyperbole and a joke. No one would actually say our OL is good. But when people are defending Brendel and McKivitz in order to insult Purdy, it's obvious that the motive is. And when it comes from someone who talked negatively about Purdy from day one, the intention is clear. Purdy haters were silent for almost three years and now magically they appear hear again when the he and the team aren't playing optimally.

None of the stats that I shared are "fairly average." Anyone who thinks that Purdy is playing average football doesn't watch any other teams play. We have some REALLY spoiled fans who simply do not understand the game and how hard it is to be a successful QB. And no, watching highlights on ESPN or Twitter doesn't count.

Purdy absolutely could reset the QB market if he wants to, and he would "deserve" it from the standpoint of "next man up." But I don't think he will do that. I hope not anyway. If he does, my view of him will certainly take a hit. I cannot stand selfish players who try and squeeze every dollar they can out of their teams (Aiyuk, Deebo, Bosa). Hoping that our QB sets a better example for the rest to follow.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
One guy is ascending the other is declining. Just pointing out facts. If we are in a similar situation next year will you still defend Kyle or will you have concerns?

It's one yr dude…One guy is coming off a SB run the other hasn't. DET isn't gonna get home field and just might have to play a football game outside a dome for once this yr.

I will evaluate the situation objectively. Like I always do.

Fair enough. I can respect that.