QB Brock Purdy Thread

I think Brock deep down knows he is a good QB but in no way elite. How many times has he said this year that he's got to be better culminating in believing he failed. He knows deep down that he is worth about $25 million a year and would probably be glad to sign a 3 year 75 million contract.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I think Brock deep down knows he is a good QB but in no way elite. How many times has he said this year that he's got to be better culminating in believing he failed. He knows deep down that he is worth about $25 million a year and would probably be glad to sign a 3 year 75 million contract.

I would think it's likely the opposite. Self doubt not really a thing among elite athletes.

Originally posted by mcwoot:
Interesting Shanny puts Brock's INT more on JJ and the OL than Brock

#49ers Kyle Shanahan defends Brock Purdy's decision to throw the ball that was intercepted late in the game vs The Rams pic.twitter.com/XdvtUXf8F3

— Kevin Krueger (@kevinkruegs) December 18, 2024

I agree with Kyle on this one. Brock did have three guys there,definitely was an option, hindsight always 20/20. I sure as heck hope that they dnt try to coach the aggressiveness out of Brock, at the same time, he does try to do too much..so that may have sounded like I made a contradiction there. It is just when to use it I guess. Should he have taken the check down there? Probably but if JJ got it, then it would be another conversation entirely. Sometimes s**t happens, it's football. But yeah, it probably would have been better to hit one of the three. It's about balance..when to use that aggressiveness and when to just take what the defense gives ya. Brock doesn't have to sparkle and shine on every pass. Just get the yards.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I think Brock deep down knows he is a good QB but in no way elite. How many times has he said this year that he's got to be better culminating in believing he failed. He knows deep down that he is worth about $25 million a year and would probably be glad to sign a 3 year 75 million contract.

I would think it's likely the opposite. Self doubt not really a thing among elite athletes.

Hi Jed.. yeah it's all good, just pay me less..

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I think Brock deep down knows he is a good QB but in no way elite. How many times has he said this year that he's got to be better culminating in believing he failed. He knows deep down that he is worth about $25 million a year and would probably be glad to sign a 3 year 75 million contract.

Brock seems smart enough to also know that if he asks for too much it can backfire and he may eventually be without a job.

We all saw what happened to Colin Kaepernick. Everyone thought he was the next football God only to be left unemployed not wanted by anyone.

I hope I'm wrong but Brock seems to be following in that same trajectory.

But if Brock asks for less and puts an elite team around him, it can mask his physical limitations as well as keep him employed.

The throw at the end of the Rams game. Like no other elite QB has ever thrown an int late in a tight ball game. Yes he should have checked down but sometimes a QB has to QB.
Biggest problem on this 49er team is the WR's can not get separation or Kyle is not scheming them open not to mention this Oline. Most all passes that are completed in football go to a virtually wide open WR there are very few tight window throws in the NFL. Brock is no different than any other NFL player that is represented by an agent they will try to get top dollar and that's what I expect. Do I like it no is it my money no, if the 49ers think they can make it work then do the deal if not then play hardball and go from there.

Originally posted by bud49:
The throw at the end of the Rams game. Like no other elite QB has ever thrown an int late in a tight ball game. Yes he should have checked down but sometimes a QB has to QB.
Biggest problem on this 49er team is the WR's can not get separation or Kyle is not scheming them open not to mention this Oline. Most all passes that are completed in football go to a virtually wide open WR there are very few tight window throws in the NFL. Brock is no different than any other NFL player that is represented by an agent they will try to get top dollar and that's what I expect. Do I like it no is it my money no, if the 49ers think they can make it work then do the deal if not then play hardball and go from there.

that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..

everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bud49:
The throw at the end of the Rams game. Like no other elite QB has ever thrown an int late in a tight ball game. Yes he should have checked down but sometimes a QB has to QB.
Biggest problem on this 49er team is the WR's can not get separation or Kyle is not scheming them open not to mention this Oline. Most all passes that are completed in football go to a virtually wide open WR there are very few tight window throws in the NFL. Brock is no different than any other NFL player that is represented by an agent they will try to get top dollar and that's what I expect. Do I like it no is it my money no, if the 49ers think they can make it work then do the deal if not then play hardball and go from there.

that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..

everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.

I'm just sharing what I see. So is it just Brock. I think its the whole team.

Brock is only as good as the players around him. He's a facilitator, not a player maker. He needs others to help him out, when those players aren't there, you see what we're left with.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bud49:
The throw at the end of the Rams game. Like no other elite QB has ever thrown an int late in a tight ball game. Yes he should have checked down but sometimes a QB has to QB.
Biggest problem on this 49er team is the WR's can not get separation or Kyle is not scheming them open not to mention this Oline. Most all passes that are completed in football go to a virtually wide open WR there are very few tight window throws in the NFL. Brock is no different than any other NFL player that is represented by an agent they will try to get top dollar and that's what I expect. Do I like it no is it my money no, if the 49ers think they can make it work then do the deal if not then play hardball and go from there.

that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..

everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.

I'm just sharing what I see. So is it just Brock who is out of sync? I think its the whole team

if you really want to see, it's in the film.

Again he, Brock, had three guys open on 2nd down and decided to go yolo (not the first time he has gone away from the easy yards)

The team is down and if the QB is off, it just makes scoring points a lot harder.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by bud49:
The throw at the end of the Rams game. Like no other elite QB has ever thrown an int late in a tight ball game. Yes he should have checked down but sometimes a QB has to QB.
Biggest problem on this 49er team is the WR's can not get separation or Kyle is not scheming them open not to mention this Oline. Most all passes that are completed in football go to a virtually wide open WR there are very few tight window throws in the NFL. Brock is no different than any other NFL player that is represented by an agent they will try to get top dollar and that's what I expect. Do I like it no is it my money no, if the 49ers think they can make it work then do the deal if not then play hardball and go from there.

that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..

everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.

I'm just sharing what I see. So is it just Brock who is out of sync? I think its the whole team

if you really want to see, it's in the film.

Again he, Brock, had three guys open on 2nd down and decided to go yolo (not the first time he has gone away from the easy yards)

The team is down and if the QB is off, it just makes scoring points a lot harder.

I said in my post he should have checked down. There just has been something off with this whole team and it started in TC,

Originally posted by mayo49:
Brock is only as good as the players around him. He's a facilitator, not a player maker. He needs others to help him out, when those players aren't there, you see what we're left with.

Hi mayo. Welcome back.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
If we're looking at numbers? Yeah let's look at numbers like how Sam Donald is probably a top quarterback this year cause he's playing that way right??? Look at the numbers . Give me a break. Stop trying to prove your point when you're not right. In no way whatsoever is Dak better than Purdy. Absolutely none. Especially in the playoffs when it counts. That was so laughable.

By the way, Purdy didn't just have one good year. He played pretty amazing his rookie year those five games as well as a playoffs. But yeah, let's disregard that. I'll trust people that know football like Kurt Warner and everyone else over somebody that claims to like Brock Purdy, and give backhanded compliments and at the same time take digs whenever they get a chance. Anyways

my god the ignorance and fan bias.

so Brock's 5 games in 2022 are more meaningful than Dak's 3 seasons of throwing for over 4,500 yards and over 30 tds? No one is saying Dak is elite, I'm saying his overall resume is absolutely better as QB. That was also more about the MVP stuff. Dak was 2nd in voting last yr. CMC was 3rd.

Sam is playing well this year. Why is that a bad thing to admit? He's playing better than Brock. Actually quite a few QBs are this yr. Brock has one bad season one great season and 5 good games before that. In what world does that determine what he is? Objectively those are some mixed results. It's surly isn't a no brainer he's an elite QB who should be getting a quarter billion dollars. If he played for another team or if we were talking about a different player you would agree.

I'll ask you the same thing…if SF said he's available via trade for a couple 1sts, what teams are lining up to give that and pay him?

No ignorance or fan bias at all. You are doing what you usually do, putting words in other posters mouth. The point you're making is ridiculous because they're only a few quarterbacks that a team would give up multiple first rounders. Maybe five at best. I'm not saying Brock is top 5 but he certainly is top 10. If you didn't have a bias against Brock (maybe this was because you were so wrong on Trey Lance and Brock showed how elite he was for the first two years of his play. This year is not the case, but like I said, there are many reasons for it outside of his control and a few that he had the ability to control). Maybe you could have reasonable conversations instead of getting so defensive and making arguments that are shortsighted.

Part of your shortcomings in your arguments is that you are too attached to statistics. I was making a point which almost anyone would agree that even though a player like Darnold has better stats than a lot of quarterbacks this year does NOT mean he is better at all. Brock would be elite if he was on Minnesota's offense, plain and simple. Can you admit that? I doubt it.

Paying Brock, the amount that Tua or Goff or Lawrence or Love is getting is very reasonable. Us as fans don't want to pay that much money so we can keep some of our players but that's not reality. There's only four or so quarterbacks that are worth that much. That's what the market dictates and when you don't look at each situation, in context, the argument is flawed. People can't be mindless and look at stats and make arguments just based on that. Just like the saying goes, sometimes stats are for losers or are misleading without context. There are some statistics that apply but a lot of times you have to see the overall picture which you don't.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..

everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.

49ers are 32nd in average receiver separation.

Kyle Shanahan teaches QBs to take downfield shots as much as possible. He used to chew out Jimmy for successful checkdowns.