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Originally posted by NYniner85:
No on wants Brad Johnson as there FQB. Mahomes is Mahomes. He can flip the switch and kill you at any moment. No objective person thinks Brock is Mahomes.
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Montana Mahomes
ATT 2855 4057
CMP 1805 2699
CMP % 63% 67%
Yards 21402 31488
AVG/ATT 7.5 7.8
TDs 140 241
INT 76 73
Rating 90.5 102.1
Games 2-8 of their careers. Left year 1 off both because they didn't start all the games that year.
Pretty similar, does this mean Purdy is WAY better, not even close better than Montana?
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
To me it's pretty obvious he's been injured for a while this year. After the 3rd game, I just starting seeing some noticeable drop in his velocity. A couple weeks later the game plan changed and we saw a lot less outside the number throws and much less deep passes.
Purdy didn't just forget how to throw the ball, there's something going on there that we probably won't find out till the season is over.
So my worry now isn't his ability at all, when healthy he plays at a very high level worthy of a big contract. Health is my concern when it comes to giving him a big contract.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Based on what Lawrence got, 55+ is the floor for Purdy. It's probably 58 minimum for Brock.
All we can do is pray that it's properly structured to help and protect us as best as possible.
The jags were committed to Lawrence even before the gave him a bag. #1 overall pick and supposedly "generational talent" that had glimpses of good play with a bunch of meh.
If teams could give up the same compensation and contract for Lawerence or Brock. I bet there would be more teams going the Lawrence route. Not saying that's right or wrong, that would be my assumption though.
Yeah because teams are stupid. Brock has been exponentially better than Lawrence has so far. Brock's bad stretch is fairly in line with Lawrence's typical play.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:Shanahan wants the drive to continue via short, intermediate or long. Take what the defense gives you.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
that throw at the end of the Rams game had 3 guys schemed open.. stop the no one is open and can't separate myth..
everyone is having a down year.. and if your QB isn't in sync, it just makes it harder.
49ers are 32nd in average receiver separation.
Kyle Shanahan teaches QBs to take downfield shots as much as possible. He used to chew out Jimmy for successful checkdowns.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:except for those times where he knew passing wasn't working, so he ran
Originally posted by NYniner85:
No on wants Brad Johnson as there FQB. Mahomes is Mahomes. He can flip the switch and kill you at any moment. No objective person thinks Brock is Mahomes.
He has done absolutely nothing. He's a joke. He didn't make a single impressive throw or run the entire SB. He did nothing impressive in any of his SB wins.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Brock is only as good as the players around him. He's a facilitator, not a player maker. He needs others to help him out, when those players aren't there, you see what we're left with.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
To me it's pretty obvious he's been injured for a while this year. After the 3rd game, I just starting seeing some noticeable drop in his velocity. A couple weeks later the game plan changed and we saw a lot less outside the number throws and much less deep passes.
Purdy didn't just forget how to throw the ball, there's something going on there that we probably won't find out till the season is over.
So my worry now isn't his ability at all, when healthy he plays at a very high level worthy of a big contract. Health is my concern when it comes to giving him a big contract.
You're exactly right. He's definitely injured. I've never seen him float long balls like that. He missed a couple touchdowns to our rookie, and he under threw quite a few other times which he did not do the first couple years unless he wanted to be safe and make sure it was a completed pass. Tua is oft injured and they still gave him the bag. Same with Dak. So we are kinda stuck in this situation but like you said, at least we know he has the ability to play elite ball. He also improved his scrambling ability and made some excellent plays this year (thanks in part to our horrible pass protection with some people on this board would say is pretty good haha).
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
No on wants Brad Johnson as there FQB. Mahomes is Mahomes. He can flip the switch and kill you at any moment. No objective person thinks Brock is Mahomes.
He has done absolutely nothing. He's a joke. He didn't make a single impressive throw or run the entire SB. He did nothing impressive in any of his SB wins.
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I watched all the games thoroughly this year. I won't be watching any of the remaining 3 games because I don't like watching preseason and I don't like watching games that don't mean anything.
But to sum up this year - the 49'ers were not good and Brock was not that good. I can't remember feeling such a lack of faith that we just cannot score. Everything was such a struggle.
When I think about Brock this past few years, I remember a lot of bad games he had when he was just so bad.
Last year I remember his struggles at Cleveland, home against Cincinnati and home against Baltimore. He was bailed out at home in the playoffs against Green Bay and Detroit by bad turnovers by the other team and bad coaching by Campbell.
Then in the Super Bowl he had so many missed opportunities of not getting any points. And when he won the coin toss in overtime, his face lit up as he was so excited to ask for the ball first. I have never played football but even I knew the overtime rules were college football and Brock I know played college football and should have known you want the ball second after you know what the other team does first.
And then this year has obviously been a disaster for Brock.
Brock does a lot of good things but he is not elite and should be paid accordingly.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Brock is only as good as the players around him. He's a facilitator, not a player maker. He needs others to help him out, when those players aren't there, you see what we're left with.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Brock is only as good as the players around him. He's a facilitator, not a player maker. He needs others to help him out, when those players aren't there, you see what we're left with.
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I watched all the games thoroughly this year. I won't be watching any of the remaining 3 games because I don't like watching preseason and I don't like watching games that don't mean anything.
But to sum up this year - the 49'ers were not good and Brock was not that good. I can't remember feeling such a lack of faith that we just cannot score. Everything was such a struggle.
When I think about Brock this past few years, I remember a lot of bad games he had when he was just so bad.
Last year I remember his struggles at Cleveland, home against Cincinnati and home against Baltimore. He was bailed out at home in the playoffs against Green Bay and Detroit by bad turnovers by the other team and bad coaching by Campbell.
Then in the Super Bowl he had so many missed opportunities of not getting any points. And when he won the coin toss in overtime, his face lit up as he was so excited to ask for the ball first. I have never played football but even I knew the overtime rules were college football and Brock I know played college football and should have known you want the ball second after you know what the other team does first.
And then this year has obviously been a disaster for Brock.
Brock does a lot of good things but he is not elite and should be paid accordingly.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
No on wants Brad Johnson as there FQB. Mahomes is Mahomes. He can flip the switch and kill you at any moment. No objective person thinks Brock is Mahomes.
He has done absolutely nothing. He's a joke. He didn't make a single impressive throw or run the entire SB. He did nothing impressive in any of his SB wins.
