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Originally posted by Kolohe:
He got Jake Brendel a 1996 Toyota Corolla.
Spent too much money
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Not that he has never overcome a 1st and 20. But the probability is low with him. With certain other QB's like Allen or Burrow, the probability is higher. This is why having an undisciplined team really hurt us this year because it was hard for Brock having a down year to overcome those mistakes. A lot of his passes this year were just off.
Your takes are so terrible that my eyes can't deal with them anymore (block) lol
The nonsense on this thread is unreal. It's like not even worth scrolling through. I mean, Trevor Lawrence? LOL
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The KC defense is simply built to destroy opposing offenses / QBs when it gets to the redzone. Stroud just looked completely outmatched there and had to settle for a FG. Chris Jones a huge part of the disruption. That seems familiar...
The talk about what teams would trade what QBs for what QBs is irrelevant. GMs frequently don't have a clue.
Nobody would have traded any pick whatsoever for Kurt Warner prior to 1999. The Rams left him unprotected for the Browns' expansion draft. Nobody would have traded much for Rich Gannon before he went to the Raiders.
Steve Young didn't fetch a first when Walsh traded for him.
The 49ers had to throw in a 3rd rounder and David Whitmore to get a 1st out of the Chiefs for Joe Montana, and that was with Paul Hackett there as their offensive coordinator.
I don't know why people are still acting like this team has some kind of nucleus of players that you're worried about wasting if you either somehow pay Brock too much (on a backloaded contract, which means his cap figure won't increase that much initially) or don't "get a QB," whatever the idea of that means to fans.
In other seasons, it was at least understandable, even though this roster has always been overrated.
But now? After Aiyuk had an injury that will likely mean he's never the same player? When it's clear to almost everyone that Screenbo is an atrocious WR? When McCaffrey has a chronic injury that means he might not play that much longer? When Kittle, who has always been banged up, has played 8 seasons? When Trent Williams is nearing retirement and seems checked out of the game? When Juicecheck is 34 and it seems he might retire?
Also, when the defense has clearly declined?
Never mind the fact that modern football players are walking injuries and you can't build a team with more than a handful of players.
Also getting annoyed with this repeated misuse of the words, "more talented," to describe every QB in football other than Brock. Do you think when a QB has a stronger arm than another QB, that means he's "more talented?" Or is it just based on how high the player is drafted? Do you think Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, and Vinny Testaverde were more talented than Joe Montana and Tom Brady? Do you think that Jeff George was the most talented QB to ever come out at the time he was drafted? Do you think that Daniel Jones is not only way more talented than Brock Purdy, but among the most talented QBs in football?
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Cg9erSF
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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
I don't know why people are still acting like this team has some kind of nucleus of players that you're worried about wasting if you either somehow pay Brock too much (on a backloaded contract, which means his cap figure won't increase that much initially) or don't "get a QB," whatever the idea of that means to fans.
In other seasons, it was at least understandable, even though this roster has always been overrated.
But now? After Aiyuk had an injury that will likely mean he's never the same player? When it's clear to almost everyone that Screenbo is an atrocious WR? When McCaffrey has a chronic injury that means he might not play that much longer? When Kittle, who has always been banged up, has played 8 seasons? When Trent Williams is nearing retirement and seems checked out of the game? When Juicecheck is 34 and it seems he might retire?
Also, when the defense has clearly declined?
Never mind the fact that modern football players are walking injuries and you can't build a team with more than a handful of players.
Also getting annoyed with this repeated misuse of the words, "more talented," to describe every QB in football other than Brock. Do you think when a QB has a stronger arm than another QB, that means he's "more talented?" Or is it just based on how high the player is drafted? Do you think Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, an d Vinny Testaverde were more talented than Joe Montana and Tom Brady? Do you think that Jeff George was the most talented QB to ever come out at the time he was drafted? Do you think that Daniel Jones is not only way more talented than Brock Purdy, but among the most talented QBs in football?
Some people are just not happy no matter what, they are always looking for something………….else
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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
I don't know why people are still acting like this team has some kind of nucleus of players that you're worried about wasting if you either somehow pay Brock too much (on a backloaded contract, which means his cap figure won't increase that much initially) or don't "get a QB," whatever the idea of that means to fans.
In other seasons, it was at least understandable, even though this roster has always been overrated.
But now? After Aiyuk had an injury that will likely mean he's never the same player? When it's clear to almost everyone that Screenbo is an atrocious WR? When McCaffrey has a chronic injury that means he might not play that much longer? When Kittle, who has always been banged up, has played 8 seasons? When Trent Williams is nearing retirement and seems checked out of the game? When Juicecheck is 34 and it seems he might retire?
Also, when the defense has clearly declined?
Never mind the fact that modern football players are walking injuries and you can't build a team with more than a handful of players.
Also getting annoyed with this repeated misuse of the words, "more talented," to describe every QB in football other than Brock. Do you think when a QB has a stronger arm than another QB, that means he's "more talented?" Or is it just based on how high the player is drafted? Do you think Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, and Vinny Testaverde were more talented than Joe Montana and Tom Brady? Do you think that Jeff George was the most talented QB to ever come out at the time he was drafted? Do you think that Daniel Jones is not only way more talented than Brock Purdy, but among the most talented QBs in football?
Dan Marino, John Elway, Josh Allen , M Stafford, ARodgers, B Favre.
Anybody can cherry pick .
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random49er
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True #1 WR is the new missing link now?
The #1 WR has to be "true." LoL
The conversations people have with themselves to convince them that everything else is ok.
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 21, 2024 at 6:08 PM ]
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Agreed. GM's and coaches (more so) have egos and think they can coach up more talented players. Stroud is more talented. Purdy has been the far better QB and no it's not because of better weapons.
Has nothing to do with ego.
Of course it does. Why else would a coach/GM choose a more talented player over a player with better production?
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Furlow
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Originally posted by random49er:
True #1 WR is the new missing link now?
The #1 WR has to be "true." LoL
The conversations people have with themselves to convince them that everything else is ok.
You know damn well what we mean. Unless you think Aiyuk is the same "#1" that Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are. Cee Dee Lamb. Etc.
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Of course it does. Why else would a coach/GM choose a more talented player over a player with better production?
Because production isn't just a product of the individual player for one thing, and talent matters when projecting into the future for another.
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random49er
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
True #1 WR is the new missing link now?
The #1 WR has to be "true." LoL
The conversations people have with themselves to convince them that everything else is ok.
You know damn well what we mean. Unless you think Aiyuk is the same "#1" that Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are. Cee Dee Lamb. Etc.
Yes, I know what you mean. I just think it's stupid.
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Furlow
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Of course it does. Why else would a coach/GM choose a more talented player over a player with better production?
Because production isn't just a product of the individual player for one thing, and talent matters when projecting into the future for another.
I'm not saying talent doesn't matter. But there's a reason that guys like Montana and Brady were passed up for far lesser QB's because of "talent."
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Watching this Texans/Chiefs game, and Nico Collins is better than any WR we have. Tank Dell separates so easily from defenders; we have NO ONE like that. That's all Purdy needs is two guys like that. If somehow we can find a true #1 WR then sky's the limit for Purdy.
I would confidently agree with you 100% here, but I've seen too many videos of Purdy not hitting open receivers to make me have some doubt. He needs to improve this offseason and play better next year.
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Gutierrez was waived today. Wasn't that Brock's former roommate ? Hopefully he got a Toyota. Merry Christmas, you're cut