QB Brock Purdy Thread

Kyle has destroyed almost EVERY QB he's had. I am not even talking physically, which he has destroyed many of them, but mentally. Griffin lll, a very confident superstar coming out of college, he destroyed his confidence after that first year after destroying him physically and he never recovered. Jimmie G. comes in brand new, SUPER confident & goes undefeated on a sh*tty ass team that couldn't find their asses with both hands (including Kyle) without even knowing Kyle's playbook. Why? Because his mind wasn't infected by Kyle's vile crap. Then Kyle eventually broke him down physically, then mentally, then humiliated him. Trey Lance, destroyed him physically & never got him going mentally. Then finally, Mr. Irrelevant, didn't know crap about Kyle's plays & came in super confident and WON...till Kyle started making him eventually doubt himself with the questionable play calling & horrible O-Line play that has him running for his life.

We can keep replacing the QBs all we want, but Kyle's the limitation, not the QB.

Originally posted by TexasGuero49:
I like him but been too much "YOLO" this year.

Needs worked on this offseason.

He is too blind or too stupid.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Just not seeing the magic when they need a comeback or winning drive.

Notice the reason Tua looked good tonight and the reason Purdy missed some throws?

Kittle is out there before being blasted

Brutal INT to close it 💔 pic.twitter.com/OTdnFluEi6

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) December 23, 2024

final play is pretty much a pick 6 the guy dropped it

What?

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I disagree here, freeze it at 12 secs, Mckivitz isn't even in the frame and Purdy's already almost released the ball. Even at 13 sec, the defender isn't even in the frame yet. Looks like the defender anticipated where Purdy was going to throw and jumped in that direction.

Bruh mckivitz gets dominated, resulting in the tipped pass. The only reason McCivitz didn't get put on skates all the way for a sack is because the defender left his feet when Brock threw

But if your analysis is that mckivitz did great here and it's all on Brock, then it makes sense why you're wrong all the time. You're not seeing the game correctly

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Tackles have been largely fine, right guard has been good, center and left guard have been a dumpster fire and rank at the very bottom of the NFL. If 2/3rds of your interior are pretty much turnstiles, that's a major issue.

On the plus side, it's entirely fixable in a single offseason if they actually prioritize it.

Not saying ol play hasn't contributed to the problems but again, other QBs are dealing with worse lines and doing more.

You could argue that Brock is dealing with it...guy is top 5 in several advance statistics, and is top 10 in passing yards per game.

We all can see with our own eyes the line is not doing him many favors, on top of the fact his "nfl starter" level WR is a shell of his former self, he has to lean on what has been his number 3 WR, and 4th or 5th string RB (depending on how you count them). Hell, Brock LEADS the team in Rushing TDs. Right now only Kittle and JJ have more TDs through the air or ground then Brock has as the leading scoring threat out of the back field.

Other QBs might be dealing with it...but let's look at the teams doing "more"

Do we think the Bengals would trade Jamar Chase for JJ? How about the Lions...Amon-Ra for JJ? Seahawks JSN or Metcalf for JJ? Zay Flowers for JJ? Justin Jefferson for JJ?

Let's not pretend half the league is doing more with less then Brock Purdy, just about every QB producing more yards per game then Purdy is not dealing with a JJ level WR as the primary threat on offense. JJ is good for what he is...heck is keeping Brock statistically in the top half of the league, but the guys doing significantly better than him, have much better weapons too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah...Kittle... both KC and the Pats have put up LESS yards per pass, and less yards per game than what Brock has done this year...even with Gronk and Kelce. Yes TEs matter, but so does the WRs.

Originally posted by sick9erfan:

Originally posted by nolimit2game:
That int hurt I just don't get it with the time left. Watching game in person it seemed like every play was real difficult, not much easy stuff for him. I just can't believe coaches haven't reeled him in and gave him more easy dink and dunk plan like tua had. All season been chucking it down field instead of taking the easy 5 yards.

Having a really bad Oline dictates the things you can and can't do.

So instead he holds onto the ball longer than just about anyone and try's to chuck it deep? The OL isn't great, Brock is doing some bad stuff all on his own as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:

Originally posted by nolimit2game:
That int hurt I just don't get it with the time left. Watching game in person it seemed like every play was real difficult, not much easy stuff for him. I just can't believe coaches haven't reeled him in and gave him more easy dink and dunk plan like tua had. All season been chucking it down field instead of taking the easy 5 yards.

Having a really bad Oline dictates the things you can and can't do.

So instead he holds onto the ball longer than just about anyone and try's to chuck it deep? The OL isn't great, Brock is doing some bad stuff all on his own as well.

Hard to be at your best, when half your weapons have been out most of the season. There's plenty of blame to go around.

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:
Kyle has destroyed almost EVERY QB he's had. I am not even talking physically, which he has destroyed many of them, but mentally. Griffin lll, a very confident superstar coming out of college, he destroyed his confidence after that first year after destroying him physically and he never recovered. Jimmie G. comes in brand new, SUPER confident & goes undefeated on a sh*tty ass team that couldn't find their asses with both hands (including Kyle) without even knowing Kyle's playbook. Why? Because his mind wasn't infected by Kyle's vile crap. Then Kyle eventually broke him down physically, then mentally, then humiliated him. Trey Lance, destroyed him physically & never got him going mentally. Then finally, Mr. Irrelevant, didn't know crap about Kyle's plays & came in super confident and WON...till Kyle started making him eventually doubt himself with the questionable play calling & horrible O-Line play that has him running for his life.

We can keep replacing the QBs all we want, but Kyle's the limitation, not the QB.

Our o-line does need improvement though.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:
Kyle has destroyed almost EVERY QB he's had. I am not even talking physically, which he has destroyed many of them, but mentally. Griffin lll, a very confident superstar coming out of college, he destroyed his confidence after that first year after destroying him physically and he never recovered. Jimmie G. comes in brand new, SUPER confident & goes undefeated on a sh*tty ass team that couldn't find their asses with both hands (including Kyle) without even knowing Kyle's playbook. Why? Because his mind wasn't infected by Kyle's vile crap. Then Kyle eventually broke him down physically, then mentally, then humiliated him. Trey Lance, destroyed him physically & never got him going mentally. Then finally, Mr. Irrelevant, didn't know crap about Kyle's plays & came in super confident and WON...till Kyle started making him eventually doubt himself with the questionable play calling & horrible O-Line play that has him running for his life.

We can keep replacing the QBs all we want, but Kyle's the limitation, not the QB.

Our o-line does need improvement though.

Yeah, a healthy Williams would help things, too.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
OL play is bad across the league. There are maybe 2 teams with 5 good linemen across the board. Every other team has issues at least somewhere on the ol

Not saying ol play hasn't contributed to the problems but again, other QBs are dealing with worse lines and doing more.

Its hard to do worse than Brendel and Banks have played this year.

And Purdy still hasn't been as terrible as some are claiming. It was a rough season, he has an opportunity to bounce back next year, hopefully with better blocking in front of him.

Adjusted EPA / PFF Grade blend.

It's kind of amazing how there's a rookie QB leading a top offense on a team that had a preseason win total over/under of 6.5 wins and it's somehow going under the radar

(wow PFF really hates Love & Stafford this year) pic.twitter.com/7oPA7bIROY

— Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) December 18, 2024

Our offense seems to operate on headhunting the long ball. It's been discussed multiple times purdy tends to scan downfield first back to the shorter reads. This was praised as good and the opposite of Jimmy.

The problem is when your options downfield for the deep ball are slow ass questionable hands deebo, old slow kittle, slow ass Jennings, and a rookie who can't even line up right, the deep pass is going to have some trouble. Throw in turn style brendel and it's going to be a struggle.

Since you don't really have a deep threat and haven't had a dominant run game we look pretty bad. Purdy especially is going to force picks just because he feels pressure and is locked into deep reads...

This requires coaching and game plan changes. We should be dinking and dunking but it's hard also given the personnel. You need a slot guy to actually win along with Jennings.

Deebo is a shear waste of space... Every look towards him is a waste so that becomes a coaching/personnel hurdle as well.

It's crazy we've literally gone in opposite directions from Jimmy to Brock. Jimmy was quick short to intermediate passes. He was allergic to throwing the ball downfield and couldn't extend plays to save his life.

Brock for whatever reason is constantly trying to throw downfield and can extend plays somewhat. He's gotta take what the defense is giving him though. High % completions on early downs is not a negative play. I feel like we see his INTs happening on early downs. His timing and footwork have taken a step back. I'm sure the OL and WRs have played a part in that BUT he mostly certainly is a part of that problem.

we had a 3rd string LT, backup LG dogs**t center and backup guys all over the offense. Everyone needs to understand that from Kyle (with the play-calling) and Brock with his reads.

I like Brock, he does need a little more around him than the other top end QBs who are making elite cash. I was watching that Cinci game yesterday and Burrow was making some crazy plays while his OL was getting abused.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Hard to be at your best, when half your weapons have been out most of the season. There's plenty of blame to go around.

For sure. I'm watching burrow get pressured constantly yesterday and making chicken salad out of chicken s**t though.

the season has been over for a little bit. They gotta rebuild the trenches on both sides big time

He is grossly underpaid next season! Would prefer to ride it out next year with Purdy, get him a O-Line, and see how it would look like long term. Then again, I think he gets extended in the offseason, how much is up to Jed and the front office.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Hard to be at your best, when half your weapons have been out most of the season. There's plenty of blame to go around.

For sure. I'm watching burrow get pressured constantly yesterday and making chicken salad out of chicken s**t though.

the season has been over for a little bit. They gotta rebuild the trenches on both sides big time

Purdy is capable of that, too. It's just that he hasn't had his usual arsenal to work with.

Originally posted by Predator85:
He is grossly underpaid next season! Would prefer to ride it out next year with Purdy, get him a O-Line, and see how it would look like long term. Then again, I think he gets extended in the offseason, how much is up to Jed and the front office.

Letting him ride out the last year of his contract might not be the worst thing. He's going to get his bag from someone, the question for the Niners is, is this the best we can do for the money?

Originally posted by mayo49:
Purdy is capable of that, too. It's just that he hasn't had his usual arsenal to work with.

I mean, the point of making chicken salad out of chicken s**t is you don't have your usual arsenal. Burrow was constantly getting pressured and making plays yesterday. His OL is bad all the same. Cool he's got Chase and had Higgins for a little bit before he got hurt again…a lot of those plays were all ad libbing.

Brock is always gonna need more than those highly paid elite level guys. Is what it is. He's gonna want their type of cash, so being able to give him more is not gonna be some easy thing to do.

Regardless of who's the QB they gotta fix the trenches. We all agree there.