QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

LOL

The defense gave us a 25 yard gain down the middle of the field if the protection held up.

is that what they gave us ? looks like an INT to me

I think you missed the "if" part there. If protection held up

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So you had issues with Brock completing to the open guy underneath to keep the drive going the last two years?

that's a new one

Nobody is throwing to the checkdown for three yards when you have an open 25 yard gain at minimum sharing at you in the face. No legit QB is passing that up because no QB is expecting their OL to completely fall apart and let a 6'7, 300 pound DL through untouched right up the middle.

You got all excited to post that dumb video and wedged yourself into defending something incredibly stupid.

Yes Chase is an idiot, yes there was something down there, it was a good playcall, a good route by Jennings and the right decision by Purdy, the OL f**ked it.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Its absolutely asinine. You're not taking a check down over Jennings open 25 yards down the field with plenty of daylight in front of him. The OL didn't need to do anything superhuman, just having a body in front of Campbell so that a monster DL doesn't have a free rush at and level your QB.

He made his presnap read, it was the correct one, the play worked as designed and when the MLB followed Deebo there was a huge gaping hole there, that is what the defense was giving you and you take that every single time. You still need everyone to execute and the OL did not.

if you are talking the end of game, this team predictably sucks hard when the run threat is out the window. the protections are usually all wrong, the execution is wrong, ppl don't often get open, it's a team that maybe more than any in the nfl needs the run or the threat of the run. the old kyle dropback game red flags we have seen.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Its absolutely asinine. You're not taking a check down over Jennings open 25 yards down the field with plenty of daylight in front of him. The OL didn't need to do anything superhuman, just having a body in front of Campbell so that a monster DL doesn't have a free rush at and level your QB.

He made his presnap read, it was the correct one, the play worked as designed and when the MLB followed Deebo there was a huge gaping hole there, that is what the defense was giving you and you take that every single time. You still need everyone to execute and the OL did not.

Yeah objectively you can't get on Brock's case for that play.

I will say some of his pre-snap stuff hasn't been as magical as in the past (this wasn't one of those).

it was a blown play and not much you can do it about. Build up the trenches on both sides….I mean no one is talking about how disgustingly bad the run D was? The dolphins have one of the worst rushing offenses is the league. Tua was down a 3x 1,000 yard WR all the same.

this defense stinks. The LBer play has been horrible. The DL is a shell of itself. They gotta reload there as well as beef up the OL

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

if you are talking the end of game, this team predictably sucks hard when the run threat is out the window. the protections are usually all wrong, the execution is wrong, ppl don't often get open, it's a team that maybe more than any in the nfl needs the run or the threat of the run. the old kyle dropback game red flags we have seen.

It almost looks like they don't practice these situations enough

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

There was a wide open hole in the defense, a receiver moving towards it, if the OL doesn't allow a free rusher right up the middle, that's an easy completion. He was taking what the defense gave him, the problem is that the OL didn't do their part, no different than if a receiver drops a pass or if the QB overthrows a wide open receiver.

The argument that you preemptively go to the check down before exhausting the big play opportunity is so asinine it's impossible to take you seriously. If your QB defaults automatically to the check down then you need a new QB ASAP.

asinine? maybe if this was an anomaly. but this s**t has been happening multiple times per game this year. not throwing to the open guy. It's why we have no rhythm, can't convert and YAC has completely gone away. I can't say that about the last two years because he took what the defense gave him. That was him playing great ball.

What you ignored is that he was locked onto jennings the entire time. You want to blame OL sure, what happened to the Purdy who had the awareness and would always scramble to the left side.. or just the awareness that your OL is not holding up and just take the quick hitter for YAC

I think you need to take your emotions out of this if think you don't need to check down on a game winning drive

Yes, asinine. Sorry I just responded to the same post, but Phoenix did a much better job than me. I just laughed.

So you had issues with Brock completing to the open guy underneath to keep the drive going the last two years?

that's a new one

I have an issue with the offensive line being unable to give Brock enough time to complete an open pass that he has completed countless times in the last 2.5 years.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are talking the end of game, this team predictably sucks hard when the run threat is out the window. the protections are usually all wrong, the execution is wrong, ppl don't often get open, it's a team that maybe more than any in the nfl needs the run or the threat of the run. the old kyle dropback game red flags we have seen.

It almost looks like they don't practice these situations enough

go back to the SB, 3rd and pass, and our pass pro got blown up every critical down. it's not a new phenomenon.

i've been saying for years, strive for more balance, including WRs who get open (real slot wrs) and more pass pro up front. we dial everything to 11 on run game, which is nice but you inevitably have situations where the run isn't an option.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

LOL

The defense gave us a 25 yard gain down the middle of the field if the protection held up.

is that what they gave us ? looks like an INT to me

I think you missed the "if" part there. If protection held up

no i got it, but no one can say it was going to be completed if he did have a clean pocket. That was last weeks issue. the protection was there and he still rather go for a game winner.

Defenses know Brock and just leaving the short game wide open right now and we're not taking advantage

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you are talking the end of game, this team predictably sucks hard when the run threat is out the window. the protections are usually all wrong, the execution is wrong, ppl don't often get open, it's a team that maybe more than any in the nfl needs the run or the threat of the run. the old kyle dropback game red flags we have seen.

That play had multiple guys open and was a good play call. They were down to their 3rd sting LT backup LG/C or whatever the s**t Zakelj is. There was clearly miscommunication between him and Brendel there.

Poor execution with bottom tier starters and backups up front.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It almost looks like they don't practice these situations enough

With who the 3rd string LT and Nick Zakelj? Yeah they probably don't during the week. It was a bread and butter play call that the starters run all the damn time.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

LOL

The defense gave us a 25 yard gain down the middle of the field if the protection held up.

is that what they gave us ? looks like an INT to me

I think you missed the "if" part there. If protection held up

no i got it, but no one can say it was going to be completed if he did have a clean pocket. That was last weeks issue. the protection was there and he still rather go for a game winner.

Defenses know Brock and just leaving the short game wide open right now and we're not taking advantage

LOL what? Why can no one say that? Because he could have thrown a poor ball? Because it could have been dropped?

Using the exact same logic, no one can say it was going to be a completed pass if he checked down instead. PTj had already dropped a check down this game.

I cant believe we are still arguing about this play that was clearly blown because of protection issues. This is just insane.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

There was a wide open hole in the defense, a receiver moving towards it, if the OL doesn't allow a free rusher right up the middle, that's an easy completion. He was taking what the defense gave him, the problem is that the OL didn't do their part, no different than if a receiver drops a pass or if the QB overthrows a wide open receiver.

The argument that you preemptively go to the check down before exhausting the big play opportunity is so asinine it's impossible to take you seriously. If your QB defaults automatically to the check down then you need a new QB ASAP.

asinine? maybe if this was an anomaly. but this s**t has been happening multiple times per game this year. not throwing to the open guy. It's why we have no rhythm, can't convert and YAC has completely gone away. I can't say that about the last two years because he took what the defense gave him. That was him playing great ball.

What you ignored is that he was locked onto jennings the entire time. You want to blame OL sure, what happened to the Purdy who had the awareness and would always scramble to the left side.. or just the awareness that your OL is not holding up and just take the quick hitter for YAC

I think you need to take your emotions out of this if think you don't need to check down on a game winning drive

Yes, asinine. Sorry I just responded to the same post, but Phoenix did a much better job than me. I just laughed.

So you had issues with Brock completing to the open guy underneath to keep the drive going the last two years?

that's a new one

I have an issue with the offensive line being unable to give Brock enough time to complete an open pass that he has completed countless times in the last 2.5 years.

that can't be said today. Brock was at the top of the list in the TTT stat this year. Which he wasn't last year and still had an awesome year.

i've posted another play from this game with a clean pocket and a wide open kittle in the EZ and nothing (he did try to throw to kittle).

is Brock the only guy to blame, no. but he isn't helping himself with locking on to one target or going for big chuck plays most of the time.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

no i got it, but no one can say it was going to be completed if he did have a clean pocket. That was last weeks issue. the protection was there and he still rather go for a game winner.

Defenses know Brock and just leaving the short game wide open right now and we're not taking advantage

Where you're getting it wrong is "the protection was there". Mckivitz was getting manhandled again. Kyle himself said there wasn't enough time because of protection

Like the tipped pass that would've gone for a td this game. You say that's good protection while McCivitz man is able to walk him back while watching Brock to time the pass. That's not good protection. That's called getting manhandled lol

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What did you wait for exactly? Someone to explain what happened, we already know that.

the issue is he didn't need to do that. He needs stop locking onto one guy and take what the defense gives you.

two games in a row he was going to Jennings no matter what

LOL

The defense gave us a 25 yard gain down the middle of the field if the protection held up.

is that what they gave us ? looks like an INT to me

I think you missed the "if" part there. If protection held up

no i got it, but no one can say it was going to be completed if he did have a clean pocket. That was last weeks issue. the protection was there and he still rather go for a game winner.

Defenses know Brock and just leaving the short game wide open right now and we're not taking advantage

LOL what? Why can no one say that? Because he could have thrown a poor ball? Because it could have been dropped?

Using the exact same logic, no one can say it was going to be a completed pass if he checked down instead. PTj had already dropped a check down this game.

I cant believe we are still arguing about this play that was clearly blown because of protection issues. This is just insane.

what's insane is refusing to see what's going on. I'm just pointing out what is happening. the same thing i did for all QBs.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So you had issues with Brock completing to the open guy underneath to keep the drive going the last two years?

that's a new one

Nobody is throwing to the checkdown for three yards when you have an open 25 yard gain at minimum sharing at you in the face. No legit QB is passing that up because no QB is expecting their OL to completely fall apart and let a 6'7, 300 pound DL through untouched right up the middle.

You got all excited to post that dumb video and wedged yourself into defending something incredibly stupid.

Yes Chase is an idiot, yes there was something down there, it was a good playcall, a good route by Jennings and the right decision by Purdy, the OL f**ked it.

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