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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm talking about end of game gotta have it drives. we had one yesterday an opportunity and failed. this is where the stat geeks don't give mahomes enough credit. he avoids the mistakes and makes the critical plays in winning time, even if the stuff around him is execution errors.

I agree, that's when QBs make their money. Same with Allen. It's not scheme based stuff for the most part, it's extending plays and making pin point throws. It's making the proper reads pre/post and bailing if you gotta. It's those no look passes from stafford and slinging it into tight windows. It's not turning the ball over as soon as you get a chance to win it.

s**t look at Daniels this yr. He not loaded with elite playmakers. He's got scary Terry and a bunch of role players. That OL is not amazing. Dude is making plays and can spin it.

I know he's throwing dots to guys like Zachcheezus and throwing game winning TDs. I don't know this for a fact, but at Brocks peak he was probably playing with a TD or two lead when we were steamrolling teams. There's not many 4th qtr game winning situations he was in. I'll give him super credit from the two playoff games last year, but this year he had multiple opportunities to have game winning drives and failed. Yesterday was no pressure we were already out of the playoffs, and he failed again.

I've seen enough to know he's not the guy and we shouldn't pay him a mega deal. As others stated let him play out his contract and if he says no, then let him go. If you do not have an elite QB, then you should keep searching until you do. Do not settle for less. We're settling if we pay him.
[ Edited by Silky on Dec 23, 2024 at 12:31 PM ]
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
If Burrow wanted out, and the Bengals were willing to give him up for Purdy + three 1sts, would you do it?

I'm worried our fanbase is going to spend all offseason banging the table for this

Hells yea. Shanny gave up 3 firsts for a dud. Burrow is proven, and if you team if up with a real head coach down the road we are set.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:

Be smart about it. 1st down just outside of the RZ with like 4mins left.. maybe don't throw a YOLO ball…Your left side of your OL is down to a 3rd stringer guy and some random LG who hasn't played all yr, be cognizant of that.

I got no problem with Brock situationally being a gunslinger, Matt Ryan did that in 2016 BUT he wasn't turning the ball over either.

FWIW I don't put that last INT on Brock
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yup. we have become predictable and our QB is limited. brock does some things very natural, but he's a pretty soft tosser. downfield strikes and throwing the deep outs isn't his bag. yet that's what this shanny system it would be ideal to have. what we are doing doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

What's predictable?

the whole setup. establish run, and you have no backs, so you are dead in the water. not enough balance to say ok the pass game will carry us this week. then you have the intermediate in breaking routes that every team sits on cuz that's all brock throws.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:

Be smart about it. 1st down just outside of the RZ with like 4mins left.. maybe don't throw a YOLO ball…Your left side of your OL is down to a 3rd stringer guy and some random LG who hasn't played all yr, be cognizant of that.

I got no problem with Brock situationally being a gunslinger, Matt Ryan did that in 2016 BUT he wasn't turning the ball over either.

FWIW I don't put that last INT on Brock
Nor do I. Yesterday was just the latest example of a free runner blowing up the middle to keep Purdy from stepping into a throw he typically completes.

Sherman is not the only guy screaming for the 49ers to fix the OL if they are going to pay Brock.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:

Be smart about it. 1st down just outside of the RZ with like 4mins left.. maybe don't throw a YOLO ball…Your left side of your OL is down to a 3rd stringer guy and some random LG who hasn't played all yr, be cognizant of that.

I got no problem with Brock situationally being a gunslinger, Matt Ryan did that in 2016 BUT he wasn't turning the ball over either.

FWIW I don't put that last INT on Brock

From my understanding at no point during that route is the wide receiver open. He was covered from the get go shouldn't even have been an option. We can excuse the bad throw by blaming the oline, but it's a bad read with Brock just staring down his target…
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:
thats fun and all but jimmy would rarely go for big chunk plays and that was the issue and why he's not here anymore.

We have Brock on record saying he's coached on taking what the defense gives us also (which could be deep or short)
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:

Be smart about it. 1st down just outside of the RZ with like 4mins left.. maybe don't throw a YOLO ball…Your left side of your OL is down to a 3rd stringer guy and some random LG who hasn't played all yr, be cognizant of that.

I got no problem with Brock situationally being a gunslinger, Matt Ryan did that in 2016 BUT he wasn't turning the ball over either.

FWIW I don't put that last INT on Brock

From my understanding at no point during that route is the wide receiver open. He was covered from the get go shouldn't even have been an option. We can excuse the bad throw by blaming the oline, but it's a bad read with Brock just staring down his target…

You admitted you didn't watch the game. You only quote hearsay. Go watch the All-22 and get back to us.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Those underneath throws have always been there, Brock ain't taking them for whatever reason.

1:25 in this video:

Be smart about it. 1st down just outside of the RZ with like 4mins left.. maybe don't throw a YOLO ball…Your left side of your OL is down to a 3rd stringer guy and some random LG who hasn't played all yr, be cognizant of that.

I got no problem with Brock situationally being a gunslinger, Matt Ryan did that in 2016 BUT he wasn't turning the ball over either.

FWIW I don't put that last INT on Brock
Nor do I. Yesterday was just the latest example of a free runner blowing up the middle to keep Purdy from stepping into a throw he typically completes.

Sherman is not the only guy screaming for the 49ers to fix the OL if they are going to pay Brock.
I don't put that INT on Brock, just the decision to go there at the time. it wasn't 3rd or 4th down. He just had the same scenario the week before.

If he keeps making these decisions, a top OL is the least of our worries
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He lost Higgins, but he was still his most targeted player lol. Good for Burrow, let's get receivers like Chase and Higgins and maybe that can be Brock in year 5 like Burrow

Burrow was doing s**t like this all game


Higgins didn't do a damn thing to make this TD happen…dude had missed like 5 or 6 games and constantly been in and out of games.


Burrow's OL has been trash for years and he's consistently put up 4,000+ and 30+ TDs.

I like Brock, he ain't Burow or the other top dogs and yet wants to be paid as such. That's a problem

I can show highlights that are all Brock too lol. I'd also take Burrows passing weapons over what Brock has had to throw to. Burrow has two receivers better than we've had in a long time. Burrow is also in year 5

Brock's also not trying to get paid like an elite qb. He's trying to get paid like Tua, Dak, Lawrence, etc
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the whole setup. establish run, and you have no backs, so you are dead in the water. not enough balance to say ok the pass game will carry us this week. then you have the intermediate in breaking routes that every team sits on cuz that's all brock throws.

Literally that's what damn near every team does. The team is 49% run 51% pass this ur…Last yr it was literally 50/50.

the lions who you love so much is so dependent of the running game and play-action. Same with Minn.
I'd like to make something clear about myself. I am not some blind Brock Purdy homer, who will defend him at all costs.

But I will say this. If you have a criticism about Brock that applied to last year just as much as this year, then I will take said criticism and have a discussion about it. But if you have a criticism about Brock that didnt apply to the first 1.5 seasons and only applied to this year, I am going to dismiss it. Obviously, there are other factors at play that are not just the fault of the QB...which people dont seem to grasp.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the whole setup. establish run, and you have no backs, so you are dead in the water. not enough balance to say ok the pass game will carry us this week. then you have the intermediate in breaking routes that every team sits on cuz that's all brock throws.

Literally that's what damn near every team does. The team is 49% run 51% pass this ur…Last yr it was literally 50/50.

the lions who you love so much is so dependent of the running game and play-action. Same with Minn.

i don't love the lions. i spoke out against this ben johnson, for example. get your stuff straight. 50/50 puts us at the extreme. for example, last season we were dead last in pass attempts. we lack balance. being dead last makes it pretty obvious. i think this year we rank 26th in pass attempts. the problem is the nfl throws curveballs at you, like ok you have some RBs out, and we don't have the flexibility to ask the pass game to do the heavy lifting.
i hope this is all part of the football gods plan in making it so that brock doesn't end up having the biggest qb contract and that somehow extends into more competitive championship victories.
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