QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I can show highlights that are all Brock too lol. I'd also take Burrows passing weapons over what Brock has had to throw to. Burrow has two receivers better than we've had in a long time. Burrow is also in year 5

Brock's also not trying to get paid like an elite qb. He's trying to get paid like Tua, Dak, Lawrence, etc

If you're trying to tell me Brock is as good as burrow then I'll politely end this conversation. We're talking about OL issues….Which Joe has had from the moment he stepped there and still deals with.

trying to get paid elite MONEY that he is NOT worth. Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

I brought this up and forgive me if your answer it (I don't think you have) if we said to Brock go let the market dictate your worth. Find us someone that is willing to give up what a 24yr old FQB is worth in compensation (couple 1sts) and they're willing to pay you Dak money…who's lining up to do that? No one that's who. So why should we?

Originally posted by picklejuice:
i hope this is all part of the football gods plan in making it so that brock doesn't end up having the biggest qb contract and that somehow extends into more competitive championship victories.

Bruh. This is a pipe dream. I want Brock to sign a 10-year $400M deal as much as the next guy but it's just not going to happen.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I can show highlights that are all Brock too lol. I'd also take Burrows passing weapons over what Brock has had to throw to. Burrow has two receivers better than we've had in a long time. Burrow is also in year 5

Brock's also not trying to get paid like an elite qb. He's trying to get paid like Tua, Dak, Lawrence, etc

If you're trying to tell me Brock is as good as burrow then I'll politely end this conversation. We're talking about OL issues….Which Joe has had from the moment he stepped there and still deals with.

trying to get paid elite MONEY that he is NOT worth. Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

I brought this up and forgive me if your answer it (I don't think you have) if we said to Brock go let the market dictate your worth. Find us someone that is willing to give up what a 24yr old FQB is worth in compensation (couple 1sts) and they're willing to pay you Dak money…who's lining up to do that? No one that's who. So why should we?

Eh… there are definitely teams that would do it IMO. Not many, but they do exist.

The Browns traded three 1sts and change to give a highly-probable sexual predator the highest guaranteed contract by a vast margin. All it takes is one desperate team that hasn't had a franchise QB in forever.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
This loss wasn't on Purdy or Kyle. It wasn't on Deebo either. It was just a microcosim of the entire season. Lining up offside on defense and offense. Illegal motion. Silly penaties that shouldn't happen constantly.

Some of it is because so many backups are playing stating rolls and they don't have the reps to not commit these errors. Some of it may be due to not getting coached up enough in practice. No question having 2nd and 3rd string O linemen is a huge issue. We're all down on this team right now but we need to see how they bounce back next season. Many good teams have an off year and this certainly was that. I've never seen so many key players injured. They don't look anything like the team we were expecting before the season started.

They'll be drafting in a good spot this year and hopefully they'll be able to land 3 or 4 players that can actually help. We can hope that the injred guys come bck to form next season but we can't be sure. CMC and Aiyuk are going to be big question marks.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

You continue to keep asking this question while ignoring that this is just how it works in the NFL. Our options are to either pay him like the market dictates (which you called it being stupid), or let him go. There isnt another option.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

You continue to keep asking this question while ignoring that this is just how it works in the NFL. Our options are to either pay him like the market dictates (which you called it being stupid), or let him go. There isnt another option.

"No no there's a third option where we can just trade him for Herbert! It's so easy! It works in Madden! Is Kyle stupid?"

Originally posted by DrEll:
From my understanding at no point during that route is the wide receiver open. He was covered from the get go shouldn't even have been an option. We can excuse the bad throw by blaming the oline, but it's a bad read with Brock just staring down his target…

If you're talking about the INT from yesterday that was an anticipatory throw. In the NFL you can't wait for dudes to be open before you throw the ball. Deebo was running a clear out route and JJ was absolutely gonna be open by the time the ball got there. they've run that play plenty throughout the years.

Jonny broke it down perfectly, if you listen to his clip…The read was based off their coverage pre-snap and the uses of motions to determine man/zone….brock read the LBer or nickel DB (can't remember which one) which lead him to know who was gonna be there. It was the right read…the protection got f**ked.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

You continue to keep asking this question while ignoring that this is just how it works in the NFL. Our options are to either pay him like the market dictates (which you called it being stupid), or let him go. There isnt another option.

Baker didn't get paid Dak money. Carr didn't get paid Dak money.

Yes let the market dictate his worth. Tell me who's lining up to pay him $250M besides us? Who's willing to give up picks to have the option to do that? No one that's who.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

You continue to keep asking this question while ignoring that this is just how it works in the NFL. Our options are to either pay him like the market dictates (which you called it being stupid), or let him go. There isnt another option.

Baker didn't get paid Dak money. Carr didn't get paid Dak money.

Yes let the market dictate his worth. Tell me who's lining up to pay him $250M besides us? Who's willing to give up picks to have the option to do that? No one that's who.

We got our own team mouth in Papa saying he's not gonna get that kind of cash….

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
thats fun and all but jimmy would rarely go for big chunk plays and that was the issue and why he's not here anymore.

We have Brock on record saying he's coached on taking what the defense gives us also (which could be deep or short)

Kyle teaches the QB to go for the big play whenever he sees favorable coverage (anything that isn't double coverage) on the receiver that he is currently on in his progression. Kyle doesn't do checkdowns.

Kyle and his dad are not actual WCO tree guys. I guess you could argue Kyle is to some extent, since he coached under Gruden at a certain point, but people don't realize Mike Shanahan never coached under a WCO offensive mind. Shanahan came from Dan Reeves.

When Shanahan left the 49ers and coached the Broncos, he moved the offense further and further away from the WCO. John Elway rarely threw to the flats in 1997 and 1998. They would alternate between I formation and 2 TE sets.

The Shanahans aren't big on checkdowns.

Listening to what other teams and coaches say I don't think Brock is viewed as a top tier talent. I'm not sure there would be a big rush to sign him. Looking down the list I don't think more than 2 or 3 teams would be interested since most teams either already have an established starter or recently drafted a young QB. The Giants need a QB but they'll probably take one in this year's draft. Nearly every other team is either set or isn't a good fit because of weather or type of system. He just isn't that highly skilled plug and play guy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Why does SF have to be as stupid as Dallas, Miami and the jags?

You continue to keep asking this question while ignoring that this is just how it works in the NFL. Our options are to either pay him like the market dictates (which you called it being stupid), or let him go. There isnt another option.

Baker didn't get paid Dak money. Carr didn't get paid Dak money.

Yes let the market dictate his worth. Tell me who's lining up to pay him $250M besides us? Who's willing to give up picks to have the option to do that? No one that's who.

Neither Baker nor Carr are in the same situation as Purdy/Dak/Lawrence/Tua.

Again, the market for young talented QBs isnt dictated by the questions you continue to ask. When a young QB is up for a new deal from his team, he gets paid. Its legitimately that simple. And you continue to ignore that and try to make comparisons that arent even close to apples to apples.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
thats fun and all but jimmy would rarely go for big chunk plays and that was the issue and why he's not here anymore.

We have Brock on record saying he's coached on taking what the defense gives us also (which could be deep or short)

Kyle teaches the QB to go for the big play whenever he sees favorable coverage (anything that isn't double coverage) on the receiver that he is currently on in his progression. Kyle doesn't do checkdowns.

Kyle and his dad are not actual WCO tree guys. I guess you could argue Kyle is to some extent, since he coached under Gruden at a certain point, but people don't realize Mike Shanahan never coached under a WCO offensive mind. Shanahan came from Dan Reeves.

When Shanahan left the 49ers and coached the Broncos, he moved the offense further and further away from the WCO. John Elway rarely threw to the flats in 1997 and 1998. They would alternate between I formation and 2 TE sets.

The Shanahans aren't big on checkdowns.

not big on anything, just get it to the open guy.. which can be deep, intermediate or short. The play calling has every depth covered. right now defenses know Brock's tendencies

Originally posted by DrEll:
From my understanding at no point during that route is the wide receiver open. He was covered from the get go shouldn't even have been an option. We can excuse the bad throw by blaming the oline, but it's a bad read with Brock just staring down his target…

LOL. The bolded is the problem.