No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
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Dec 24, 2024 at 8:54 AM
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Dec 24, 2024 at 8:54 AM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by MucketyMuck:I was listening to sports radio and they brought up the point as to who Brock has helped elevate their game and I'm not sure I have an answer to that outside of maybe JJ. They then went on to discuss paying him 60+ million a year or paying a stop gap like Cousins or trading for Carr for half that price. Now I'll take Brock over either of these guys talent and age wise but I wouldn't totally be against the idea.
Would BA even be considered top 30 if he didn't get a year with Brock?
This is true. Aiyuk exploded in production after Brock took over.
Dec 24, 2024 at 8:55 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Aikman straight up said he couldn't throw a wet football and he had a pretty good career
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:07 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Well he's going to be. And the Niners can still sign anybody they want.
[ Edited by okdkid on Dec 24, 2024 at 9:07 AM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Well he's going to be. And the Niners can still sign anybody they want.
I know that he'll get overpaid because that's the idiotic way teams are operating now. That doesn't make it right. Saying they can sign anyone they want is wrong. I'm sure they would have loved to keep D J Jones. Armstead, Buckner, Mostert and others that left.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Dec 24, 2024 at 9:12 AM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:35 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Well he's going to be. And the Niners can still sign anybody they want.
I know that he'll get overpaid because that's the idiotic way teams are operating now. That doesn't make it right. Saying they can sign anyone they want is wrong. I'm sure they would have loved to keep D J Jones. Armstead, Buckner, Mostert and others that left.
He's saying the 9ers can sign Brock then sign anyone after that. Brock cap hit shouldn't kick in till after the 2025 season. But not sure why people are worried about signing Brock, the team will protect themselves or recoup money if something goes wrong. And the number that everyone sees when it's reported is never the real number that he'll earn.
With that said Brock is my QB, all this talk about not being able to play in bad weather is irrelevant. He's already shown he can lead the 49ers deep into the playoffs. He's played in bad weather and still got to the NFCC his first year starting then the Super Bowl his second year starting.
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:40 AM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I was listening to sports radio and they brought up the point as to who Brock has helped elevate their game and I'm not sure I have an answer to that outside of maybe JJ. They then went on to discuss paying him 60+ million a year or paying a stop gap like Cousins or trading for Carr for half that price. Now I'll take Brock over either of these guys talent and age wise but I wouldn't totally be against the idea.
Would BA even be considered top 30 if he didn't get a year with Brock?
This is true. Aiyuk exploded in production after Brock took over.
Aiyuk only had one decent game this year with Brock before the hospital ball against KC.
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:42 AM
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Aikman straight up said he couldn't throw a wet football and he had a pretty good career
Can't compare a former #1 overall pick to the last guy out of the draft. Aikman had an amazingly strong arm and accuracy.
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:43 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I was listening to sports radio and they brought up the point as to who Brock has helped elevate their game and I'm not sure I have an answer to that outside of maybe JJ. They then went on to discuss paying him 60+ million a year or paying a stop gap like Cousins or trading for Carr for half that price. Now I'll take Brock over either of these guys talent and age wise but I wouldn't totally be against the idea.
Would BA even be considered top 30 if he didn't get a year with Brock?
This is true. Aiyuk exploded in production after Brock took over.
Aiyuk only had one decent game this year with Brock before the hospital ball against KC.
Who's fault is that, Brock Purdy's for having an off season or Aiyuk's for not having an off season.
Dec 24, 2024 at 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by MucketyMuck:I was listening to sports radio and they brought up the point as to who Brock has helped elevate their game and I'm not sure I have an answer to that outside of maybe JJ. They then went on to discuss paying him 60+ million a year or paying a stop gap like Cousins or trading for Carr for half that price. Now I'll take Brock over either of these guys talent and age wise but I wouldn't totally be against the idea.
Would BA even be considered top 30 if he didn't get a year with Brock?
This is true. Aiyuk exploded in production after Brock took over.
Aiyuk only had one decent game this year with Brock before the hospital ball against KC.
That's because he's not that good. He got outperformed by a 7th rounder. He isn't good enough to miss all of tc and walk out there and ball. Defenses being able to play more man without cmc might have been a problem for him too
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:15 AM
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It's pretty obvious and clear that paying Purdy could be a very bad mistake. We need to see more of him.
Does anyone know who has the final word on such things in the 49'ers organization? Would it be the owner Jed York?
Does anyone know who has the final word on such things in the 49'ers organization? Would it be the owner Jed York?
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No way Brock should be paid as a top 10 QB. Too many limitations. We've seen how he has issues in bad weather. Unfortunatley that's what teams often have to face down the stretch and in the playoffs. His arm is okay but not great so deeper passes sometimes hang in the air too long. He also gets a lot of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Some of that is because of poor pass protection but his height doesn't help
He's not a top 10 QB bse don hs skill set. He makes up for a lot of his deficientcies with grit and awareess but that can only take you so far. He may get paid like a top 10 QB but it could end up causing the team to let some players walk in coming years.
Well he's going to be. And the Niners can still sign anybody they want.
I know that he'll get overpaid because that's the idiotic way teams are operating now. That doesn't make it right. Saying they can sign anyone they want is wrong. I'm sure they would have loved to keep D J Jones. Armstead, Buckner, Mostert and others that left.
He's saying the 9ers can sign Brock then sign anyone after that. Brock cap hit shouldn't kick in till after the 2025 season. But not sure why people are worried about signing Brock, the team will protect themselves or recoup money if something goes wrong. And the number that everyone sees when it's reported is never the real number that he'll earn.
With that said Brock is my QB, all this talk about not being able to play in bad weather is irrelevant. He's already shown he can lead the 49ers deep into the playoffs. He's played in bad weather and still got to the NFCC his first year starting then the Super Bowl his second year starting.
I'm not talking about next season. I realize his new contract won't kick in right away but when it does it's going to have an effect on who they can and can't sign. Not just players on their team but free agents. Even when the cap goes to $300 million Brock will be getting about 20% of the entire cap if thye pay him $60 mil. That's too much for one player.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Dec 24, 2024 at 10:16 AM ]
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:22 AM
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Brock at this time is worth no more than 30 million. If he holds out, bring in Cousins or Darnold.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Brock at this time is worth no more than 30 million. If he holds out, bring in Cousins or Darnold.
Dec 24, 2024 at 10:40 AM
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Brock will get 50+ million it just comes down to years, structure, guarantees and outs for the team. There are ways to give the team outs and flexibility while Brock gets a large payday. If the front office can do that they can also resign several guys and grab a couple of good FA. He will get paid but in no realm of reality will he be the highest paid QB in the league. Just because the Cowboys overpaid doesn't mean all the other teams will.