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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Also a dumbass take. I can turn on film of Kap "doing more" than Tom Brady could. Where would that get us?
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
crickets for good reason. numbers are overrated. they would suggest that goff and darnold are better than mahomes and other false takes. how about calling houston and asking if they want brock for cj? how does that convo go?
What if they wanted to give us Nico Collins and Tank Dell for Deebo/Aiyuk? Brock's been better with less
this is where the convo goes off the rails. QB eval should be isolating what the QB can do and what the QB can't do. not saying well he would be better with an OL upgrade and a WR upgrade. any QB would be better with upgrades.
as an aside, if you follow the picture around the league, i see us moan about injury, and diggs is out for the year, dell was just in the hospital, and collins has missed time. nfl football has injuries that's reality folks.
So basically you are saying that QB evaluation should be completely hypothetical. Good thing you arent a GM.
what's hypothetical about the film?
Film doesnt show what a QB can do independent of other players.
Also a dumbass take. I can turn on film of Kap "doing more" than Tom Brady could. Where would that get us?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Brought CJ Stroud up a few times in this thread and crickets. Apparently people are asking the same question I am....
Going to be any discourse whether to pay Stroud 50-60 mil a year or nah?🧐🤨 #FTTB pic.twitter.com/SL5afwlEKd
— 9er Matt (@9erMatt) December 26, 2024
Strpud had worse numbers this year and worse numbers last year. Look what Love got and add inflation.
crickets for good reason. numbers are overrated. they would suggest that goff and darnold are better than mahomes and other false takes. how about calling houston and asking if they want brock for cj? how does that convo go?
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Also a dumbass take. I can turn on film of Kap "doing more" than Tom Brady could. Where would that get us?
You can also see him doing a bunch of fundamentally wrong things from his footwork, to his drops, to his reads… mistakes Tom Brady generally isn't making.
This is getting silly guys. Film is the best way to evaluate how a QB is playing.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Film doesnt show what a QB can do independent of other players.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Exactly
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Also a dumbass take. I can turn on film of Kap "doing more" than Tom Brady could. Where would that get us?
You can also see him doing a bunch of fundamentally wrong things from his footwork, to his drops, to his reads… mistakes Tom Brady generally isn't making.
This is getting silly guys. Film is the best way to evaluate how a QB is playing.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Have you seen that kids posts? His film analysis is "that boy throw hard"
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:lol, you're full of it
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Film doesnt show what a QB can do independent of other players.
course it does. we are in fundamental disagreement. only the film can tell you what really happened. the stat sheet may say the QB threw a TD, maybe it went off the DBs hands and into the endzone for a score. the film will show it. film will show footwork, how a QB spins it, accuracy, velo, athleticism and all this stuff that is inherent to the QB. i hardly even go off stats or advanced stats anymore. just watch the games or the breakdowns afterward. lot of great ex ball players who break it down on all 22.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Have you seen that kids posts? His film analysis is "that boy throw hard"
Well yes, it helps to have an idea of what you're looking at. That applies for everyone. It's nice that there are pros that do honest breakdowns. Just have to look for them.
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:Yeah that wouldn't be a great way to negotiate
IMO - if we have everyone healthy, I truly believe Cousins or Darnold could achieve what Brock could next year. If I am right, this would affect how much we would offer Brock.
Originally posted by krizay:
Into the SB throwing 3 straight fade passes instead of having Kap "doing more"
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:lol, you're full of it
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Film doesnt show what a QB can do independent of other players.
course it does. we are in fundamental disagreement. only the film can tell you what really happened. the stat sheet may say the QB threw a TD, maybe it went off the DBs hands and into the endzone for a score. the film will show it. film will show footwork, how a QB spins it, accuracy, velo, athleticism and all this stuff that is inherent to the QB. i hardly even go off stats or advanced stats anymore. just watch the games or the breakdowns afterward. lot of great ex ball players who break it down on all 22.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Dumbass harbs called a timeout and the play on 2nd down was basically kap walking into the endzone
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by krizay:
Into the SB throwing 3 straight fade passes instead of having Kap "doing more"
Dumbass harbs called a timeout and the play on 2nd down was basically kap walking into the endzone
