QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Montana, I like your counter arguments, very convincing.

Nothing much to counter, if Darnie lost most of his best players..would be a different convo right now. He has improved sure but that whole team is on fire right now..while we are all busted up. Purdy has not been perfect but the talent is still there and I do think he is injured some/having problems with his arm, despite what the team has told us. Idk.

I think Purdy tries to do too much, as I have said before. He likely doesn't trust players and probably feels like it's all on his shoulders and that is when he can get into I guess, "hero ball". Being in this situation teamwise would be hard on any qb.

This is a learning experience for him..he is still quite young..will grow from it. Like Shanny was saying. But to just cry for Darnold..well..I mean, he said he got better from being on the 49ers..playing with Brock etc. Should say quite a bit about our team.

Adapt and grow..

Patience, we will be back

Yeah, just thinking out load. Love to upgrade with Darnold, but that ain't happening. Purdy, should be sufficient enough to execute Shannahan's offense. Just needs his playmaker's healthy most of the season. Healthy players coming back, a good draft, extend Brock and some FA pickups, we'll be right back contending. You can't sleep either, huh? I'm an insomniac, when people are getting up is when I usually fall asleep. If, I do fall asleep, lol. It can be a b***h.

We can't settle for sufficient enough to execute Shanahan''s offense, unless you have an unstoppable defense. Joe Montana and Steve Young were not just sufficient enough to run Walsh's offense. They were elite. If you want to win a Superbowl, get an elite QB and good defense, unless you have 2000 Ravens defense with a Trent Dilfer or a 2003 Bucs defense with a Brad Johnson.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Montana, I like your counter arguments, very convincing.

Nothing much to counter, if Darnie lost most of his best players..would be a different convo right now. He has improved sure but that whole team is on fire right now..while we are all busted up. Purdy has not been perfect but the talent is still there and I do think he is injured some/having problems with his arm, despite what the team has told us. Idk.

I think Purdy tries to do too much, as I have said before. He likely doesn't trust players and probably feels like it's all on his shoulders and that is when he can get into I guess, "hero ball". Being in this situation teamwise would be hard on any qb.

This is a learning experience for him..he is still quite young..will grow from it. Like Shanny was saying. But to just cry for Darnold..well..I mean, he said he got better from being on the 49ers..playing with Brock etc. Should say quite a bit about our team.

Adapt and grow..

Patience, we will be back

Yeah, just thinking out load. Love to upgrade with Darnold, but that ain't happening. Purdy, should be sufficient enough to execute Shannahan's offense. Just needs his playmaker's healthy most of the season. Healthy players coming back, a good draft, extend Brock and some FA pickups, we'll be right back contending. You can't sleep either, huh? I'm an insomniac, when people are getting up is when I usually fall asleep. If, I do fall asleep, lol. It can be a b***h.

We can't settle for sufficient enough to execute Shanahan''s offense, unless you have an unstoppable defense. Joe Montana and Steve Young were not just sufficient enough to run Walsh's offense. They were elite. If you want to win a Superbowl, get an elite QB and good defense, unless you have 2000 Ravens defense with a Trent Dilfer or a 2003 Bucs defense with a Brad Johnson.

We're not guessing with Purdy, he's done it. An NFCG, year one and Superbowl, year two. I'm sure we'd of made the playoffs this year if it wasn't for all our injuries. Can't blame that on Brock. Purdy is not glitzy, but are you looking for style points or the end goal - to be competitive?

Originally posted by mayo49:
We're not guessing with Purdy, he's done it. An NFCG, year one and Superbowl, year two. I'm sure we'd of made the playoffs this year if it wasn't for all our injuries. Can't blame that on Brock. Purdy is not glitzy, but are you looking for style points or the end goal - a championship?

maybe that was Purdys high water mark. Maybe that was the best he has to offer and it's all downhill from there. I mean, there's a reason he was Mr irrelevant in the first place. That's really what the Niners are gonna overpay for? Just because the jags, giants, and dolphins overpaid for their average qb's, does that mean we have to do the same?

We've seen enough to know Brock is good enough to win when the team isn't on IR. We know his strengths and weaknesses. I thonk he's about as goodas he can be when he has all hus weapons. He's not a raw physical talent that just need sreps to learn how to play. He knows how to play. He knows the system.

What he isn't going to do is get taller or faster. He's not going to ever have a rocket arm. He's about average in arm strength and we need to be content with that for now. What he lacks in physical skills he makes up for with intelligence and guts. This team can win with him as long as they continue to build around him.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

We can't settle for sufficient enough to execute Shanahan''s offense, unless you have an unstoppable defense. Joe Montana and Steve Young were not just sufficient enough to run Walsh's offense. They were elite. If you want to win a Superbowl, get an elite QB and good defense, unless you have 2000 Ravens defense with a Trent Dilfer or a 2003 Bucs defense with a Brad Johnson.

Brock was elite in 2023.
Who is this elite QB you want?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

We've seen enough to know Brock is good enough to win when the team isn't on IR. We know his strengths and weaknesses. I thonk he's about as goodas he can be when he has all hus weapons. He's not a raw physical talent that just need sreps to learn how to play. He knows how to play. He knows the system.

What he isn't going to do is get taller or faster. He's not going to ever have a rocket arm. He's about average in arm strength and we need to be content with that for now. What he lacks in physical skills he makes up for with intelligence and guts. This team can win with him as long as they continue to build around him.

He is as fast as just about anyone covering 10 yards.
He was an elite deep threat in 2023.

Trent sucks.
Deebo is mediocre.
Aiyuk and McCaffery are useless.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
We can't settle for sufficient enough to execute Shanahan''s offense, unless you have an unstoppable defense. Joe Montana and Steve Young were not just sufficient enough to run Walsh's offense. They were elite. If you want to win a Superbowl, get an elite QB and good defense, unless you have 2000 Ravens defense with a Trent Dilfer or a 2003 Bucs defense with a Brad Johnson.

Brock was elite in 2023.
Who is this elite QB you want?

Elite is a meaningless word. You can call him elite if you want but I'm not talking about stats. In 2023 the Niners were mostly healthy all year. CMC and hus other weapons all had great years and played nearly every game. That's excatly what I said. As long as he has those types around him he can be a very good QB.

My definition of elite is a little different than yours. Players that have special physical skills like Allen. Mahomes and a few others are elite when they can combine those skills with an understanding of the game. They're able to make 30, 40 yard and even longer throws when the game is on the line. They can take over the game in crunch time. There are a lot of players like that and the Niners aren't likely to get a chace to draft one unless they reall fall apart and have a couple drafts where they pick in the top 5. Even then they have to get lucky to have it happen in a good year for QBs. That's why I said Niner fans have to be content for now with Purdy. He may not be elite but he's shown he can be very good under the right circumstances.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd love to make a run at Darnold, but he isn't leaving what he built up in Detroit.

What did he build up in Detroit?

He built up his reputation as player who struggled earlier in his career, but learned and figured it out. What do you think I mean? Don't be a dunce. Sorry.

Buddy, he's in Minnesota

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We've seen enough to know Brock is good enough to win when the team isn't on IR. We know his strengths and weaknesses. I thonk he's about as goodas he can be when he has all hus weapons. He's not a raw physical talent that just need sreps to learn how to play. He knows how to play. He knows the system.

What he isn't going to do is get taller or faster. He's not going to ever have a rocket arm. He's about average in arm strength and we need to be content with that for now. What he lacks in physical skills he makes up for with intelligence and guts. This team can win with him as long as they continue to build around him.

He is as fast as just about anyone covering 10 yards.
He was an elite deep threat in 2023.

Trent sucks.
Deebo is mediocre.
Aiyuk and McCaffery are useless.

Aiyuk and CMC are useless because they were hurt. CMC was the OPOY just last season. Trent sucks? He went through a terrible year with his wife losing 2 children at birth and then having an injury on top of it.

Brock is a good scrambler but he's not a threat to break a big run. Teams don't worry bout his running. His deep throws tend to float a little which often causes his receivers to slow up for the ball. That gives the DBs time to recover. No way does he have a rocket arm.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Elite is a meaningless word. You can call him elite if you want but I'm not talking about stats. In 2023 the Niners were mostly healthy all year. CMC and hus other weapons all had great years and played nearly every game. That's excatly what I said. As long as he has those types around him he can be a very good QB.

My definition of elite is a little different than yours. Players that have special physical skills like Allen. Mahomes and a few others are elite when they can combine those skills with an understanding of the game. They're able to make 30, 40 yard and even longer throws when the game is on the line. They can take over the game in crunch time. There are a lot of players like that and the Niners aren't likely to get a chace to draft one unless they reall fall apart and have a couple drafts where they pick in the top 5. Even then they have to get lucky to have it happen in a good year for QBs. That's why I said Niner fans have to be content for now with Purdy. He may not be elite but he's shown he can be very good under the right circumstances.

Who are the few others?
Who are the lot of players thst can take over a game with a weak team?

We passed on Mahomes and drafted Trey Lance when we had top picks in the past.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Aiyuk and CMC are useless because they were hurt. CMC was the OPOY just last season. Trent sucks? He went through a terrible year with his wife losing 2 children at birth and then having an injury on top of it.

Brock is a good scrambler but he's not a threat to break a big run. Teams don't worry bout his running. His deep throws tend to float a little which often causes his receivers to slow up for the ball. That gives the DBs time to recover. No way does he have a rocket arm.

Aiyuk was useless before he got hurt this year.
Trent sucked ass this year. He sat out and was way out of shape after holding out for money.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Aiyuk and CMC are useless because they were hurt. CMC was the OPOY just last season. Trent sucks? He went through a terrible year with his wife losing 2 children at birth and then having an injury on top of it.

Brock is a good scrambler but he's not a threat to break a big run. Teams don't worry bout his running. His deep throws tend to float a little which often causes his receivers to slow up for the ball. That gives the DBs time to recover. No way does he have a rocket arm.

Aiyuk was useless before he got hurt this year.
Trent sucked ass this year. He sat out and was way out of shape after holding out for money.

Great insight.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Elite is a meaningless word. You can call him elite if you want but I'm not talking about stats. In 2023 the Niners were mostly healthy all year. CMC and hus other weapons all had great years and played nearly every game. That's excatly what I said. As long as he has those types around him he can be a very good QB.

My definition of elite is a little different than yours. Players that have special physical skills like Allen. Mahomes and a few others are elite when they can combine those skills with an understanding of the game. They're able to make 30, 40 yard and even longer throws when the game is on the line. They can take over the game in crunch time. There are a lot of players like that and the Niners aren't likely to get a chace to draft one unless they reall fall apart and have a couple drafts where they pick in the top 5. Even then they have to get lucky to have it happen in a good year for QBs. That's why I said Niner fans have to be content for now with Purdy. He may not be elite but he's shown he can be very good under the right circumstances.

Who are the few others?
Who are the lot of players thst can take over a game with a weak team?

We passed on Mahomes and drafted Trey Lance when we had top picks in the past.

Herbert. Burrow, Daniels come to mind right away. They all have better arms at least on deep throws. Lamar Jackson has improved greatly and of course he's a threat when he runs. Darnold has better physical tools but hasn't had many opportunities to use them until this season. He was on a terrible team with bad coaching in NY. He learned a lot while he was in SF last season and it's shown this year iwith the Vikings. He still makes too many bad decisions but his physical tools are better than Brock.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd love to make a run at Darnold, but he isn't leaving what he built up in Detroit.

What did he build up in Detroit?

He built up his reputation as player who struggled earlier in his career, but learned and figured it out. What do you think I mean? Don't be a dunce. Sorry.

Buddy, he's in Minnesota

Oops, talk about dunce's. Got to laugh at yourself sometimes. And, don't call me, buddy - I pick my friends.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Aiyuk and CMC are useless because they were hurt. CMC was the OPOY just last season. Trent sucks? He went through a terrible year with his wife losing 2 children at birth and then having an injury on top of it.

Brock is a good scrambler but he's not a threat to break a big run. Teams don't worry bout his running. His deep throws tend to float a little which often causes his receivers to slow up for the ball. That gives the DBs time to recover. No way does he have a rocket arm.

Aiyuk was useless before he got hurt this year.
Trent sucked ass this year. He sat out and was way out of shape after holding out for money.

Great insight.

Vs what you posted?
What I said about his deep passing is a simple fact as is my point about the highest paid offensive players being useless this year.